Carney says he will use "Emergency Powers" to fight trade war. Not even kidding a little.

[CdnFox]

Says it right out loud.  He will use the emergency powers to "build the economy" to take on the Americans. 

Let me remind everyone that at that time the libs will thoroughly control the senate. 

This guy is a freaking disaster. Canada will do HORRIBLY under this guy.  

And one 'use' he might pull is to declare that the election is being put off until 2026. That would be a very real possibility. He could theoretically do longer. 

That would allow him to get into power and arrange all kinds of goodies for his friends and scam the system for a year and a half, then if he loses he still walks away with lots of cash and some contacts he can use to make money later.

 

The liberals continue to be the worst party in canadian history and people dont' see it. 

 

Edit to fix disfunctional link

SNELL: Carney supports 'emergency powers' in US trade war — stoking fears of delayed election

Edited February 14 by CdnFox

[I am Groot]

He has said before in an interview, and he said it with absolutely zero sympathy and great determination, that companies that don't get on board with fighting climate change will be driven into bankruptcy by government taxes. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

Why don’t you flesh this OP out a little and explain the legal pros and cons of this? A few links to explain the matter might be helpful too. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

He has said before in an interview, and he said it with absolutely zero sympathy and great determination, that companies that don't get on board with fighting climate change will be driven into bankruptcy by government taxes. 

exactly. He also said he'll go after industries like the steel industry and that won't hurt consumers because consumers don't buy steel (when was the last time  you bought some steel ingots mike, he asks the interviewer).  But he doesn't realize everything people DO buy has metal and steel in it. And they will pay the price. 

SO he's far too stupid, that's a given. But the fact that he's ALREADY talking about using the emergency powers the feds have is nothing short of terrifying. 

 

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Why don’t you flesh this OP out a little and explain the legal pros and cons of this? A few links to explain the matter might be helpful too. 

I don't know what you mean by that. There are no legal pros and cons, he's talking about setting aside the law and the constitution as permitted by the emergency powers act and other emergency provisions, and he hasn't said exactly which ones he'll use.

And if you did want to know more then you should get off of your lazy ass and do your own homework. I swear to god not a single person on the left can do their own thinking, you need someone else to look up the facts for you and spoon feed you in order to learn anything. If it doesn't come straight from your echo chamber in the form of talking points you're unable to determinate yourself. You have access to most of the same resources I do, look it up! Yeash!

[Aristides]

2 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I doubt Carney can postpone the election.  The Chief Electoral Officer is the one who has to decide whether any "emergency" justifies postponing an election.  I doubt a tariff war would meet the threshold of an emergency requiring postponing an election.  To try to gain time for political reasons is not a justified reason to postpone an election.  The CEO would not postpone it for that reason.  If he did, it would be challenged in court immediately.

 

Constitution only requires an election every five years. He might be able to use the notwithstanding clause but I doubt he would.

[blackbird]

18 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

the fact that he's ALREADY talking about using the emergency powers the feds have is nothing short of terrifying. 

 I doubt Carney can postpone the election.  The Chief Electoral Officer and / or the Governor General are the ones who have to decide whether any claimed "emergency" justifies postponing an election.  I doubt a tariff war would meet the threshold of an emergency requiring postponing an election.  To try to gain time for political reasons is not a justified reason to postpone an election.  The CEO and GG would not postpone it for that reason.  If they did, it would be challenged in court immediately.

Postponing an election – Elections Canada

Edited February 13 by blackbird

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Says it right out loud.  He will use the emergency powers to "build the economy" to take on the Americans. 

Let me remind everyone that at that time the libs will thoroughly control the senate. 

This guy is a freaking disaster. Canada will do HORRIBLY under this guy.  

And one 'use' he might pull is to declare that the election is being put off until 2026. That would be a very real possibility. He could theoretically do longer. 

That would allow him to get into power and arrange all kinds of goodies for his friends and scam the system for a year and a half, then if he loses he still walks away with lots of cash and some contacts he can use to make money later.

 

The liberals continue to be the worst party in canadian history and people dont' see it. 

Do you have any kind of credible source for that?

[blackbird]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Constitution only requires an election every five years. He might be able to use the notwithstanding clause but I doubt he would.

I doubt he could use the Notwithstanding clause to postpone an election because an election is not legislation.  The Notwithstanding clause applies to legislation, not elections.  If the Governor General dissolves Parliament, then the Chief Electoral Officer must go ahead and start the election process.

[blackbird]

9 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Constitution only requires an election every five years. He might be able to use the notwithstanding clause but I doubt he would.

"Under legislation passed by Parliament, federal elections must be held on the third Monday in October every four years following the most recent general election. The Prime Minister may ask the Governor General to call an earlier election."

Discover Canada - Federal Elections - Canada.ca

Or Parliament may force an election by passing a non-confidence vote in Parliament which also triggers an immediate election.

Edited February 13 by blackbird

[blackbird]

A trade war does not qualify as an emergency in order to postpone an election.  It is not the same as an insurrection or war.  In a trade war, government departments and agencies still continue to function and would continue during an election.  The trade war does not stop government from doing its work.

"It is also possible for a general election to be delayed should Canada be embroiled in a war or insurrection"

Elections in Canada - Wikipedia

[eyeball]

32 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The Chief Electoral Officer and / or the Governor General are the ones who have to decide whether any claimed "emergency" justifies postponing an election.

Postpone when?  Carney can wait until November, notwithstanding a confidence motion that compels an election before that. I doubt he'll have much difficulty convincing the other opposition parties to support him.

If you're imagining PP can just write the GG a letter again you're dreaming.  If you thought the reasons for allowing Trudeau to prorogue were skimpy (they were) I suspect a trade war with a belligerent neighbour will carry the weight to ignore any procedural attempt to force an early election outside of a confidence motion.

Instead I suspect Carney will wait and let Trump and his Canadian 5th Column continue to trash the right wing brand to such an extent that PP's numbers will be so far down the toilet  that only a US invasion will prevent Canada's left wing parties from completely dominating in the next election.

 

Edited February 14 by eyeball

[eyeball]

In any case Canadians should definitely be given the opportunity to decide which direction we should take.

Trump's or our own.

Besides Trump being such a factor another will be that an early election in Canada will occur in a far more unified condition with Trump threatening us.  Divisiveness will not be a winning campaign formula.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

 I doubt Carney can postpone the election.  The Chief Electoral Officer and / or the Governor General are the ones who have to decide whether any claimed "emergency" justifies postponing an election.  

He absolutely can. I would remind you that the chief electoral officer right now is directly connected to the liberals. And by tradition the governor general agrees with the PM unless it is blatantly obvious that there is no emergency, but everyone is going to recognize trump's threat as being a legitimate emergency

And it won't be hard to get the NDP on board considering how they're polling right now. And if the house supports it it's all over

Do not kid yourself. If he wants to he can.

But what's just as concerning is that he may intend to use the powers right away so for some horrible state on people or industry before an election. Just like we saw with covid, this government is not afraid to abuse its powers to compel people to do things that would otherwise be unconstitutional.

I mean at the end of the day he clearly said he intended to use emergency powers. He must intend to use it for something and  literally nothing he could use it for is good for Canada

[taxme]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Says it right out loud.  He will use the emergency powers to "build the economy" to take on the Americans. 

Let me remind everyone that at that time the libs will thoroughly control the senate. 

This guy is a freaking disaster. Canada will do HORRIBLY under this guy.  

And one 'use' he might pull is to declare that the election is being put off until 2026. That would be a very real possibility. He could theoretically do longer. 

That would allow him to get into power and arrange all kinds of goodies for his friends and scam the system for a year and a half, then if he loses he still walks away with lots of cash and some contacts he can use to make money later.

 

The liberals continue to be the worst party in canadian history and people dont' see it. 

The liberals are the deep state in Canada. I have been listening on Fox News since Trump became President about what the Trump administration is finding out as to how much corruption and government waste has been going on for decades in Washington. Incredible and unbelievable.

Elon Musk is cleaning house in America and Musk has found billions of taxpayer's tax dollars that were being wasted and were being used to prop up the democratic party machine of corruption and incompetence. I can just imagine what a conservative government would and could find if they opened up the books on the liberal party regime and what they have been doing with taxpayer's tax dollars over the past decades. It would be great if PP did such a thing. We can only wait and see if he has the balls to do so. 

If the conservative party were to open up the books and be transparent for all Canadians to see where their tax dollars have been going to for decades and then start to lower taxes, get rid of the massive bureaucracy that we have in the federal government, and give back our freedoms, they would be in power for decades. Will PP be a Canadian Trump? Will we get an other Elon Musk to do the job? Well, we must wait and see. 

The liberals are the worst party in Canadian history, and as you said, why so many Canadians refuse to see it is beyond me. We certainly do have quite a few million mindless people running around in Canada. They are and still make and support and create the problems. I so despise those lefty liberals here who seem to want the keep the status liberal quo alive and well and to stick around forever. 👎 

[herbie]

Mr Conspiracy again... with the "Deep State" that can barely keep the mail and trains running or deliver your pension cheque to you.

Don't need any actual evidence of anything,  Just whine about the worst case scenario you can conjure up in your head. Something, something, something that might affect you because unlike the other 40 million, you're special.

[Aristides]

Guess the OP doesn’t have a source to back this up.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Do you have any kind of credible source for that?

You mean other than the video attached at the link that shows him actually saying it? If that's not credible what do you consider to be credible?

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Guess the OP doesn’t have a source to back this up.

He's actually saying it. I know you're not the brightest poster here, but surely to god watching the man actually say it is a reasonably credible source that he said it.

If you could keep your stupidity to a minimum that would make the conversations go a lot faster.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Guess the OP doesn’t have a source to back this up.

My bad, looks like the link isn't working or visible even though I put it in there and copied from something. Here's a link of him saying it and a couple of other links including the one to the original story. One of them should work. Every now and then the board doesn't seem to want to take links from me. 

I'm editing the original as well

You could have looked that up in 2 seconds yourself so you're still stupid though   

SNELL: Carney supports 'emergency powers' in US trade war — stoking fears of delayed election

 

 

 

[Legato]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Says it right out loud.  He will use the emergency powers to "build the economy" to take on the Americans. 

Let me remind everyone that at that time the libs will thoroughly control the senate. 

This guy is a freaking disaster. Canada will do HORRIBLY under this guy.  

And one 'use' he might pull is to declare that the election is being put off until 2026. That would be a very real possibility. He could theoretically do longer. 

That would allow him to get into power and arrange all kinds of goodies for his friends and scam the system for a year and a half, then if he loses he still walks away with lots of cash and some contacts he can use to make money later.

 

The liberals continue to be the worst party in canadian history and people dont' see it. 

 

Edit to fix disfunctional link

SNELL: Carney supports 'emergency powers' in US trade war — stoking fears of delayed election

As his name suggests, Carney will institute a merry go round of Whack-A-Mole and Ghost Protocols,

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

SNELL: Carney supports 'emergency powers' in US trade war — stoking fears of delayed election

You say it's the Western Standard stoking delayed election fears?

LMAO!

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And one 'use' he might pull is to declare that the election is being put off until 2026. That would be a very real possibility. He could theoretically do longer. 

Meanwhile your Orange God said...

"in four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote."

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

My bad, looks like the link isn't working or visible even though I put it in there and copied from something. Here's a link of him saying it and a couple of other links including the one to the original story. One of them should work. Every now and then the board doesn't seem to want to take links from me. 

I'm editing the original as well

You could have looked that up in 2 seconds yourself so you're still stupid though   

SNELL: Carney supports 'emergency powers' in US trade war — stoking fears of delayed election

 

 

 

He doesn't say anything about green projects in that statement. He doesn't say what projects at all. That will have to come out in the election campaign.

The difference between you and I is I actually listen to what he said, instead of repeating what someone else says he said.

 

Edited February 14 by Aristides

[SpankyMcFarland]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

exactly. He also said he'll go after industries like the steel industry and that won't hurt consumers because consumers don't buy steel (when was the last time  you bought some steel ingots mike, he asks the interviewer).  But he doesn't realize everything people DO buy has metal and steel in it. And they will pay the price. 

SO he's far too stupid, that's a given. But the fact that he's ALREADY talking about using the emergency powers the feds have is nothing short of terrifying. 

 

I don't know what you mean by that. There are no legal pros and cons, he's talking about setting aside the law and the constitution as permitted by the emergency powers act and other emergency provisions, and he hasn't said exactly which ones he'll use.

And if you did want to know more then you should get off of your lazy ass and do your own homework. I swear to god not a single person on the left can do their own thinking, you need someone else to look up the facts for you and spoon feed you in order to learn anything. If it doesn't come straight from your echo chamber in the form of talking points you're unable to determinate yourself. You have access to most of the same resources I do, look it up! Yeash!

 

I’ll just your reply and my mine here sit beside each other. With respect, your OP could have had more detail in my opinion. 

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, blackbird said:

A trade war does not qualify as an emergency in order to postpone an election.

The threat of imminent annexation might.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, taxme said:

The liberals are the deep state in Canada. I have been listening on Fox News since Trump became President about what the Trump administration is finding out as to how much corruption and government waste has been going on for decades in Washington. Incredible and unbelievable.

Elon Musk is cleaning house in America and Musk has found billions of taxpayer's tax dollars that were being wasted and were being used to prop up the democratic party machine of corruption and incompetence. I can just imagine what a conservative government would and could find if they opened up the books on the liberal party regime and what they have been doing with taxpayer's tax dollars over the past decades. It would be great if PP did such a thing. We can only wait and see if he has the balls to do so. 

If the conservative party were to open up the books and be transparent for all Canadians to see where their tax dollars have been going to for decades and then start to lower taxes, get rid of the massive bureaucracy that we have in the federal government, and give back our freedoms, they would be in power for decades. Will PP be a Canadian Trump? Will we get an other Elon Musk to do the job? Well, we must wait and see. 

The liberals are the worst party in Canadian history, and as you said, why so many Canadians refuse to see it is beyond me. We certainly do have quite a few million mindless people running around in Canada. They are and still make and support and create the problems. I so despise those lefty liberals here who seem to want the keep the status liberal quo alive and well and to stick around forever. 👎 

Well the books have been opened a great deal. We know about the snc scams, we know about all the single sourced contracts and work for nothing like the company that got hundreds of millions for arrivecan,  we know about the "Green slush fund", we know about a lot of this crap. 

Unfortunately a lot of canadians dont' care about corruption. (eyeball..... Staaaaaaaaare...)  and vote the gov't in anyway. 

All PP can do is shut a  bunch of it down for now, but it gets revived the next time the libs are in power. 

34 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

 

I’ll just your reply and my mine here sit beside each other. With respect, your OP could have had more detail in my opinion. 

With respect if you want more detail go dig it up yourself you lazy treesloth. This is a discussion forum, it's not an educational facility. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

He doesn't say anything about green projects in that statement.

 

I never said he did.  But he did say he intends to use emergency powers to fight trump. 

THere's only a few places he can use that. Extending the election date is one. 

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The difference between you and I is I actually listen to what he said, instead of repeating what someone else says he said.

I never mentioned 'Green" anything yet you just claimed i did.    so much for you "listening"   So you're stupid AND a hypocrite.... quite the package! 

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

You say it's the Western Standard stoking delayed election fears?

 

Well seeing as you know which emergency powers he's talking about go ahead and put those fears to rest and tell us what he's intending

Edited February 14 by CdnFox