I am Groot Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 14 hours ago, eyeball said: Sure. I was saying months ago a Trump victory preceding a Canadian election would provide all the pause Canadians would need to recall why they're wary of right wing politicians and their warped vision for the world. Their warped vision of the world? Have you seen the floods of third-world migrants filling up the main cities of Western Europe, demanding citizenship, committing massive amounts of violent crime, taking billions and tens of billions out of the taxpayers' pockets to feed, cloth, and shelter? Have you seen the decreasing living standards as left-wing politicians pour more and more money into a hopeless, pointless effort at fighting climate change through ever-higher energy costs? Have you seen the crime in the streets, the dazed hordes of zombies on meth and crack smashing and stealing everything they can get their hands on while police and the courts stand back because, well, they're the 'victims', you know. Plus it would be wacist to imprison criminals who aren't white. This is the vision of the world the Left has embraced. 1 Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 39 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Trump got gains from this trade game. What did Canada get? Also, a significant reason why Trump took a stick to Canada is the ridiculous woke-green mess that Trudeau has championed in the West, a mess that has shamed Canada and cost Canadians countless billions. Trudeau must go. The wake up call from this is that we must never make ourselves so vulnerable again, neither in trade nor militarily, unless we want to become de facto Puerto Rico, which Canada is now. At least Puerto Rico uses the U.S. dollar. Our currency is weak and we earn significantly less than Americans now. We were in better economic shape than Americans a decade ago. I wonder what changed? Another win is that Trudeau looked like a great statesman who defended Canada when it needed defending, while Polievre looked weak and in Trump’s pocket. Justin’s legacy is secure with real Canadians and MAGAcanada look like traitors. Win win win win win. 😂 Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 27 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: I agree, and we don’t even consume our own oil and make our own gas out of it for domestic consumption. We rely on Texas. We can’t pump it east because of Quebec resistance. Well Quebec better realize that if we lose our independence, all the bilingual kowtowing to Laurentian elites and pouring money into Quebec ends immediately. Oh and the BC elders stopping BC pipelines can hand over their status cards to Washington. This is why Canadians need to take a hard look at our “Canadian” federal government, which has not served our sovereignty or Canada’s interests. Ever heard of the Trans Mountain pipeline? I'll give you a clue. Harper didn't build it. Quote
Zeitgeist Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Another win is that Trudeau looked like a great statesman who defended Canada when it needed defending, while Polievre looked weak and in Trump’s pocket. Justin’s legacy is secure with real Canadians and MAGAcanada look like traitors. Win win win win win. 😂 Trudeau looks like a weak fool on the international stage: fake feminist rainbow sock puppet of Davos. He couldn’t reach out to a hurting population during outdated Covid restrictions and imposed martial law and froze the bank accounts of protesters. He has shamed Canada and created an endless identity politics pay-out welfare scheme for Indigenous and other groups designated as victims and superior humans. He has compromised free speech and meritocracy through the politicization of our courts and government bought mainstream media. He and the Liberal-NDP have squandered our once strong financial position by overspending, buying votes, and over regulating our resource sector. The carbon tax has increased cost of living. Mass immigration has cut our housing supply and raised home costs, not to mention stretched our social services and social cohesion. The hard drug use, government-assisted hard drug injection sites and permissive MAID are just icing on the low birth rate, rising crime, shrinking middle class cake. Edited February 4 by Zeitgeist Quote
blackbird Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Ever heard of the Trans Mountain pipeline? I'll give you a clue. Harper didn't build it. You don't appear to have much idea of what it is all about. " The Trans Mountain Expansion Project was controversial due to its potential environmental impact. It faced legal challenges, as well as challenges from environmentalists and First Nations groups on the grounds of inadequate consultation of the pipeline route passing through unceded indigenous land. A Supreme Court decision on July 2, 2020, that rejected the appeals made by First Nations and environmental groups, "[brought] an end to the years-long legal challenge".[8] On August 31, 2018, the Government of Canada purchased the pipeline for $4.7 billion[9] from Kinder Morgan through the creation of the Trans Mountain Corporation (TMC), in order to "keep the project alive".[10] TMC is a Crown corporation, a subsidiary of the Canada Development Investment Corporation (CDEV).[11] Until the purchase by CDEV, the Trans Mountain Pipeline was owned by the Houston–based pipeline operator's Canadian division." Trans Mountain pipeline - Wikipedia The original TMC pipeline went into operation in 1953. TMC was trying to increase it's capacity but was faced with many environmental and aboriginal groups opposing it as well as court challenges. Since it was the only pipeline from the oil producing province of Alberta, it had to be built. It was essential to protect the economy and jobs of Alberta. With all the opposition to building it, the federal government had no choice but to step in and get it completed. This had nothing to do with Harper. Harper left office in 2015 and the expansion was being held up by all the opposition including opposition by the anti-pipeline BC NDP government and municipalities of Burnaby and Vancouver. It was politics holding it up. It is very hard to get any pipelines built in Canada because of the countless opposition groups. But the TMC pipeline was essential to the economy of Alberta and Canada. So the federal government had to take over. The liberals killed the Northern Gateway pipeline shortly after they were elected in 2015 and also killed the Energy East pipeline. The did little or nothing to deal with all the opposition from FNs and environmentalists and anti-pipeline politicians in Canada. 1 Quote
Legato Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 27 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Another win is that Trudeau looked like a great statesman who defended Canada when it needed defending, while Polievre looked weak and in Trump’s pocket. Justin’s legacy is secure with real Canadians and MAGAcanada look like traitors. Win win win win win. 😂 Your other post being so far from any truth gave me a chuckle, This post just deserves a..... 1 Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, Legato said: Your other post being so far from any truth gave me a chuckle, This post just deserves a..... You have no idea what Canadian sentiment to you MAGA types is these days. It's not pretty. Quote
blackbird Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: You have no idea what Canadian sentiment to you MAGA types is these days. It's not pretty. You are clueless. There is no such thing as MAGA types in Canada. Practically nobody in Canada agrees with Trump and what he is doing. Canada is a sovereign nation and will never become the 51st state. Conservatives in Canada are pro Canada development and against the Liberal-NDP coalition that has been destroying Canada and preventing it's economic growth for years. Quote
Zeitgeist Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: You have no idea what Canadian sentiment to you MAGA types is these days. It's not pretty. Don’t you mean Post-National State? The Liberals have dispensed with “colonial, genocidal” Canada and cancelled Sir John A. Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Just now, blackbird said: You are clueless. There is no such thing as MAGA types in Canada. Practically nobody in Canada agrees with Trump and what he is doing. Canada is a sovereign nation and will never become the 51st state. Conservatives in Canada are pro Canada development and against the Liberal-NDP coalition that has been destroying Canada and preventing it's economic growth for years. Polievre is Canadian MAGA. He uses all the same rhetoric. You can't wash that off when it starts to smell 1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said: Don’t you mean Post-National State? The Liberals have dispensed with “colonial, genocidal” Canada and cancelled Sir John A. Exactly. Canadians aren't falling for your attempts to undermine western democracy. We are a free, democratic, pluralistic society and we're keeping it that way. Quote
PIK Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 17 hours ago, Dougie93 said: he sure put the fear of God into Canada it worked once, so he's going to keep doing it next up will be Canada's 2% GDP defence spending followed by renegotiating NAFTA Canada already calculates its military spending like that, RCMP, Coast Guard, etc it doesn't work tho, NATO doesn't buy it He woke us up,that's all. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Dougie93 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: Point of order: Canada doesn't have any military it can send to secure the border. Stage 1 National Mobilization ; conscription as necessary call up the Primary Reserve activate the Supplementary Reserve Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, PIK said: He woke us up,that's all. if he doesn't keep up the pressure, Canada will go back to sleep Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: The illusion of a win. Which is good enough for Trump. exactly this is all security theatre all Canada has to do is play along he's not really going to engage in a prolonged trade war Quote
Army Guy Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: Guy, the 40 odd pounds of fentanyl they've seized at their northern border is chump change compared to the twenty-one thousand pounds they've seized at their south. Then there's the people. A few thousand to the north, hundreds of thousands to the south. Now let's look at it from the other direction. If we're at fault and need to improve then what about the Americans? Thousands and thousands of kg of narcotics are seized by CBSA at the border last year headed into Canada from the US. Not to mention thousands of firearms. And as you know, migrants travel to the US just to come to our border and cross it. Tens of thousands did that all through Trump's first term and he couldn't have cared less. Biden signed the safe 3rd country agreement but I have a feeling the moment someone tells Trump about it he'll cancel it. Why isn't the US doing better at stopping these drugs, guns and people from entering Canada? By his own reckoning, it's HIS responsibility. CBSA has said they can only check about 1 % of all truck and container traffic entering Canada...because of lack of funding , lack of proper equipment, lack of manpower....Increasing all of those is going to make Canadians safer...and we'll catch more than 40 lbs Americans are improving their side of the border....American soldiers are already patrolling the southern border, I'm sure they have plans to reinforce the northern border... It seems your saying our border security is good enough, Thats the same message justin has been telling the media, and yet CBSA says only 1 % of everything that comes across the border is checked....and if they are catching all those numbers you said they did with only 1 % i can't even imagine what the number is for those not caught....Our border is porous, its a joke for a G-7 nation to be having this much problems with drugs and illegal immigration alone... So why would having a more secure border NOT be a good idea Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Dougie93 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Army Guy said: CBSA has said they can only check about 1 % of all truck and container traffic entering Canada...because of lack of funding , lack of proper equipment, lack of manpower....Increasing all of those is going to make Canadians safer...and we'll catch more than 40 lbs Americans are improving their side of the border....American soldiers are already patrolling the southern border, I'm sure they have plans to reinforce the northern border... It seems your saying our border security is good enough, Thats the same message justin has been telling the media, and yet CBSA says only 1 % of everything that comes across the border is checked....and if they are catching all those numbers you said they did with only 1 % i can't even imagine what the number is for those not caught....Our border is porous, its a joke for a G-7 nation to be having this much problems with drugs and illegal immigration alone... So why would having a more secure border NOT be a good idea if the drug cartels are getting blocked at the southern border, they will shift to Canada to bypass it Canada should be on high alert simply because America is stirring up a hornet's nest Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, Army Guy said: its a joke for a G-7 nation to be having this much problems with drugs Canada just declared the drug cartels to be terrorist organizations they are now subject to the National Mission Force therein there is no Posse Comitatus in Canada unleash CANSOFCOM in Aid to the Civil Power beat Trump at his own game Facta Non Verba Quote
Legato Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 38 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: You have no idea what Canadian sentiment to you MAGA types is these days. It's not pretty. Well actually I do. You on the other hand make wild assumptions that if you disagree with any left wing nonsense, yougottabe Maga. Shallow thinking at it's finest. Quote
I am Groot Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 16 minutes ago, Army Guy said: It seems your saying our border security is good enough, Nope. I'm all for increasing border security on all our borders. I'm saying that border security is not what this is all about. What's getting through to the states is not particularly important or impactful. Trump just wants to throw his weight around. I also recall reading a post from CNBC whose source said Trump didn't want to hit Mexico and not Canada too. I think we just got caught up in the Mexico problem because we three are in a trade agreement. Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 9 minutes ago, Legato said: Well actually I do. You on the other hand make wild assumptions that if you disagree with any left wing nonsense, yougottabe Maga. Shallow thinking at it's finest. No, but if you're a Trump supporter you gotta be MAGA. If you're endorsed by Musk, you gotta be MAGA. If you repeat MAGA rhetoric verbatim, you gotta be MAGA Ergo, Polievre is MAGA. Quote
Zeitgeist Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 43 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Polievre is Canadian MAGA. He uses all the same rhetoric. You can't wash that off when it starts to smell Exactly. Canadians aren't falling for your attempts to undermine western democracy. We are a free, democratic, pluralistic society and we're keeping it that way. Don’t you mean China-led? Trudeau is an admirer of the basic dictatorship. We got a glimpse of his kind of Post-National utopia when bank accounts were frozen. Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 50 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: You have no idea what Canadian sentiment to you MAGA types is these days. It's not pretty. nobody is scared of Woke DEI 2SLGBTQ+ Pretendians you are not the Canadian military we are the Canadian military f*ck around and find out Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 Just now, Dougie93 said: nobody is scared of Woke DEI 2SLGBTQ+ Pretendians you are not the Canadian military we are the Canadian military f*ck around and find out Canadians aren't afraid of craven mentally ill traitors. You've already lost. You just haven't figured it out yet Quote
Zeitgeist Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Canadians aren't afraid of craven mentally ill traitors. You've already lost. You just haven't figured it out yet Isn’t there an equity committee meeting somewhere you should be attending right now? The Cultural Revolution isn’t going to run itself. Edited February 4 by Zeitgeist Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said: Isn’t there an equity committee meeting somewhere you should be attending right now? Is that all you got? I just finished making fun of Betsy because you can clearly see her Chinese accent through her crippled English. She scurried away like an exposed rat. 😂 Quote
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