Deluge Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 18 minutes ago, Aristides said: You don't get off that easy. Republicans made Trump their candidate, not Democrats. Yet you made him your candidate. What does that say about you. You're stating the obvious, numbnuts. Trump was CLEARLY the superior candidate to Harris. I voted for Trump (the right candidate) and your fellow cultist over there either voted for word salad or WOULD have voted for word salad, and the same goes for you. I'm the smart voter, and you two are the ldiots. I hope that clears things up for you. Quote
Aristides Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 12 minutes ago, Deluge said: You're stating the obvious, numbnuts. Trump was CLEARLY the superior candidate to Harris. I voted for Trump (the right candidate) and your fellow cultist over there either voted for word salad or WOULD have voted for word salad, and the same goes for you. I'm the smart voter, and you two are the ldiots. I hope that clears things up for you. Forget about Harris, There were others campaigning to be the Republican candidate but you chose Trump. That is all on Republicans. Quote
Deluge Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: Forget about Harris, There were others campaigning to be the Republican candidate but you chose Trump. That is all on Republicans. You've got a small point there, but it's still just fine. Trump beats the shit out of Halley, and DeSantis is needed in Florida. I was starting to lean toward Ramaswamy, but Trump was still a great choice. MAGA!! Edited January 31 by Deluge Quote
Aristides Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Yup, you chose the pathological liar and all round Ahole. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 45 minutes ago, Aristides said: Yup, you chose the pathological liar and all round Ahole. Woke forced the poor dears into picking their Troll in Chief. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
robosmith Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Maybe you can finally see why discussing with ardent Defenders of this ghost-like ideology is useless. It is useless for convincing the MAGA CULT, but for those on the fence, it is good to get the truth out. Quote
Aristides Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 22 minutes ago, eyeball said: Woke forced the poor dears into picking their Troll in Chief. When you've got nothing else there is always the devil made me do it. Quote
ironstone Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 The number of near misses in the air did increase under Biden/Harris. https://people.com/pilots-warned-of-dangerous-increase-in-near-misses-at-u-s-airports-before-american-airlines-crash-8783168 Common sense tells us that Air Traffic Control and piloting should be professions which should not use DEI but this was not the case with the Democrat administration. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Black Dog Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, ironstone said: The number of near misses in the air did increase under Biden/Harris. https://people.com/pilots-warned-of-dangerous-increase-in-near-misses-at-u-s-airports-before-american-airlines-crash-8783168 Common sense tells us that Air Traffic Control and piloting should be professions which should not use DEI but this was not the case with the Democrat administration. Hey quick question what does "a lack of warning systems at airports coupled with a staffing shortage of air traffic controllers" have to do with DEI? 1 Quote
Aristides Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 27 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Hey quick question what does "a lack of warning systems at airports coupled with a staffing shortage of air traffic controllers" have to do with DEI? You think maybe he doesn't bother to read the links he posts? Just sees a headline he likes and goes no farther. Quote
Black Dog Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: You think maybe he doesn't bother to read the links he posts? Just sees a headline he likes and goes no farther. Too busy watching disturbingly moist British pedophiles talk on youtube to do the reading. Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) 19 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Liar. Trump addressed the issue of "FAA safety standards that were lowered in order to accommodate leftards" issue a week ago, in advance of this accident. To listen to your drivel, one would think that this is something that randomly happened which Trump then randomly pounced on. What clearly happened here is: Biden created a problem with his DEI discrimination and lunacy Trump addressed that problem, Trump took all the proper steps that he could to rectify it This unfortunate event just proved that Trump was correct in 1. and 2., above Gaslighting left4rd weasels like you are trying to change the topic to "We no wikey Twumpy mean woads. Nevow mind if wut he sed wuz troo, cuz it huwted me feewingz." Fake news fools the usual gullible cultists again. 1) Biden did not lower any FAA safety standards for any woke DEI policies 2) Trump didn’t rectify any of rhe no -existent safety standards 3) logically an aircraft accident could only DISPROVE # 2 not prove it 4) So far the FAA has not be blamed the Army helicopter flown by two white men was not where it was supposed to be. 5) For anyone who follows aviation topics , the US air traffic control system is notoriously underfunded with outdated analog technology because congress never approves appropriations from the national aviation trust fund which are intended for that purpose. I majored in Aeronautical Science at a US university and literally DAY ONE of my freshman year that was a topic of discussion in class…back in 1997 and it wasn’t even a new topic then. Edited January 31 by BeaverFever 1 1 Quote
ironstone Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Hey quick question what does "a lack of warning systems at airports coupled with a staffing shortage of air traffic controllers" have to do with DEI? If there was a staffing shortage, why were they turning away applicants like the man in this article? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/01/31/diversity-hiring-cost-me-job-at-faa-a-crash-was-inevitable/ There is currently a pending lawsuit alleging that the FAA turned away around 1000 qualified applicants because of race. https://iotwreport.com/from-2024-faa-sued-for-throwing-out-air-traffic-controller-applications-based-on-applicants-race/ Can you guess the race of these applicants that were rejected? Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Aristides Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 There is nothing yet to indicate the controller was in any way at fault. So far experts are saying he did everything right. Quote
Aristides Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Ah the Telegraph. About as right wing as UK papers get. My antivirus freaks when I click your second link. Quote
robosmith Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 42 minutes ago, ironstone said: If there was a staffing shortage, why were they turning away applicants like the man in this article? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/01/31/diversity-hiring-cost-me-job-at-faa-a-crash-was-inevitable/ There is currently a pending lawsuit alleging that the FAA turned away around 1000 qualified applicants because of race. https://iotwreport.com/from-2024-faa-sued-for-throwing-out-air-traffic-controller-applications-based-on-applicants-race/ Can you guess the race of these applicants that were rejected? Maybe because of the diversity program put in place BY TRUMP during his FIRST TERM. Trump Launched FAA Diversity Program to Hire People With Disabilities Quote President Donald Trump condemned a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) initiative to hire people with disabilities in the wake of the Washington, D.C., plane collision, despite a similar initiative being launched during his first term in office. Newsweek has contacted the White House and the FAA for comment via email outside of regular working hours. Why It Matters Trump pushed to remove all diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives from federal programs upon his return to office. During a Thursday press conference, Trump suggested diversity hiring programs were to blame for the collision between a passenger jet and a military helicopter near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, but did not provide any evidence to support his claims. LMAO 1 Quote
robosmith Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 30 minutes ago, Aristides said: There is nothing yet to indicate the controller was in any way at fault. So far experts are saying he did everything right. From what I have heard, the controller was not responsible AFTER the helo pilot said he had the jet in sight. Also, the helo pilot was in unapproved air space due to being ABOVE the 200 ft altitude approved for helo flight. The thing I can't understand is how he could miss the jet directly ahead of him trying to land with his headlights on. It seems he should have seen the jet before a head on collision. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Bad news for lefties: Quote Contributing to the shortage, the FAA temporarily put the brakes on hiring in 2012 so it could replace race-blind hiring rules with a “Biographical Assessment” stratagem designed to hire more minorities. This quiz served as further screening of applicants who had already graduated from a 200-hour training program and achieved high scores on AT-SAT, a grueling, eight-hour cognitive test that measures each of the specific skills needed to do the job properly. The questionnaire sought irrelevant information such as the “college subject in which I received my lowest grade.” Those answering “history/political science” received 15 points. Playing four or more sports in high school was worth 5 points. By contrast, holding a pilot’s license — a major advantage for a controller — was worth only 2 points. And having valuable experience as an air traffic controller in the military was worth no points at all. https://www.cf.org/news/flashback-faa-turned-away-qualified-air-traffic-controllers-based-solely-on-race/ Gee, I wonder why ATC delays are a problem? Oh...right...because they put failing a college course over having experience. Why? Because they thought if you had problems learning history, you must be a minority. Their assumptions, not mine. I don't get it. I've never heard this racist assumption that minorities can't learn history. I know a lot of people are dismissing the ATC actions in the cause. But ATC absolutely played a role. ATC should have told PSA about the helicopter. That is SOP. And the helicopter should have been told to remain east of the runway 33 centerline until traffic passes. Had he done that, the accident probably would have been prevented. I'm not saying the helicopter didn't screw up. Most of the fault should lie with the helicopter. But ATC, with better adherence to SOP, could have prevented the entire thing. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
BeaverFever Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 57 minutes ago, ironstone said: If there was a staffing shortage, why were they turning away applicants like the man in this article? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/01/31/diversity-hiring-cost-me-job-at-faa-a-crash-was-inevitable/ So a guy who has never worked as an air traffic controller is suddenly an expert on the air traffic system, how this crash happened and why. Also in reality he has no idea why he didn’t get the job. Maybe he gave a terrible interview or maybe he didn’t score as well as he’s claiming DEI is just an excuse for every failure and washout now. No wonder it’s such a popular target among the poorly educated and people at the bottom. 1 hour ago, ironstone said: Can you guess the race of these applicants that were rejected? Guess is the key word. 14 minutes ago, robosmith said: Maybe because of the diversity program put in place BY TRUMP during his FIRST TERM. Trump Launched FAA Diversity Program to Hire People With Disabilities LMAO But to be clear there is no diversity program for disabled air traffic controller applicants. That program is for general staff from office managers to janitors Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) From now on any disaster or unpleasant event is automatically the fault of unqualified DEI unless someone can prove there’s nothing but straight white males in a 100 mile radius of what happened…In which case hey shit happens nobody’s perfect don’t be so hard on the guy. Edited January 31 by BeaverFever Quote
Matthew Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 5 hours ago, Deluge said: Every single f*cking thing you stand for is wrong. Right. You and I have never had a conversation because you are not worth my time. If you ever say anything worth taking seriously I'll let you know. Quote
Deluge Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, Matthew said: Right. You and I have never had a conversation because you are not worth my time. If you ever say anything worth taking seriously I'll let you know. We've never had a conversation because I already know what you stand for. See, my ability to automatically detect woketards saves us both a lot of time. Quote
robosmith Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 2 hours ago, ironstone said: The number of near misses in the air did increase under Biden/Harris. https://people.com/pilots-warned-of-dangerous-increase-in-near-misses-at-u-s-airports-before-american-airlines-crash-8783168 Common sense tells us that Air Traffic Control and piloting should be professions which should not use DEI but this was not the case with the Democrat administration. Fact-checking Trump's claims about diversity schemes and the Washington plane crash Quote Some aviation experts said that while there had been diversity recruitment schemes within the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), ATC candidates still had to pass rigorous medical and psychological tests. BBC Verify has looked into the facts behind the president's claims. Can people with 'severe intellectual or psychiatric disabilities' be hired as controllers? President Trump said a "diversity push" by the FAA - the US government agency in charge of civil aviation - had focused "on hiring people with severe intellectual and psychiatric disabilities". He added: "They can be air traffic controllers." The president appeared to be referring to diversity and inclusion policies established during the Obama administration. They included "targeted disabilities that the federal government, as a matter of policy, has identified for special emphasis in recruitment and hiring". Details were available on the FAA website until December. BBC Verify found an archived version of the page. It listed a number of "targeted disabilities": "Hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism". The FAA employs around 45,000 people, of which ATC staff number about 14,000. A new programme was established in 2019, during Trump's first term in office, seeking to give people with disabilities a pathway to work in air traffic operations. An FAA press release at the time said the aim was to "help prepare people with disabilities for careers in air traffic operations" and that up to 20 people would train for up to one year at a number of air traffic control centres. It also emphasised that "candidates in this program will receive the same rigorous consideration in terms of aptitude, medical and security qualifications as those individuals considered for a standard public opening for air traffic controller jobs". One of the first three graduates of the program became an air traffic control trainee in August 2021, the FAA said in a blogpost. Candidates seeking to become ATCs have to go through years of training, as well as physical and mental tests. The FAA says they are screened during the recruitment process for psychological issues. Randy Babbitt - a former head of the FAA - told the NewsNation network: "They have very, very high standards to be an air traffic controller. Diversity has nothing to do with it." Quote
herbie Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Demented Don is a disgrace to humankind with his endless lies and disgusting blame and belittling of every one else on the planet. Well here's his dumbest lie ever, overlooked by his insistence of offering political bullshit rather than sympathy to the victims and survivors like an actual leader would: Quote
CdnFox Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 5 hours ago, Aristides said: Yet you made him your candidate. What does that say about you. It says that the democrat candidates are so bad they can make anyone look good Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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