Poilievre Is The Only Option

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

nothing wrong with a vanilla conservative . my neibhor across road is a conservative and a great guy its the ones who swing way to the right on here thats a problem 😆

Except libertarians. I have very little to argue with them. 

Although left the movement during the pandemic for obvious reasons. See Penn Gilette, for example.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

nothing wrong with a vanilla conservative . my neibhor across road is a conservative and a great guy its the ones who swing way to the right on here thats a problem 😆

When you define "way right" as "anything right of castro", that's where you run into a problem  

[Army Guy]

On 12/22/2024 at 5:20 PM, Politics1990 said:

do you really think i care what a majority think on here lol? its a borderline far right wing echo chamber  with a few centrist and left leaning people  😆

We like having you around , your like the yappy dog you can't get rid of....besides every conservative echo chamber needs it token liberals...

[Gaétan]

Israeli and American agents would like to elect Poilievre to send bombs to Israel to kill Palestinians without going through the United States like Trudeau.

[Aristides]

Unfortunately

[Gaétan]

American senators and representatives prefer him to Trudeau because they won't have to complain about him enriching the American arms industry.

[Nationalist]

Well this has been an interesting read. Libbies terrified by Polievre. Yet not one of them present any evidence that he's this corporate puppet they claim he is.

Libbies...nobody who's been paying attention the last 4 years, believes a word you say.

[NAME REMOVED]

13 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Well this has been an interesting read. Libbies terrified by Polievre. Yet not one of them present any evidence that he's this corporate puppet they claim he is.

Unsure what the corporate puppet accusation  is about.

I'm waiting for the CSIS report on foreign interference, in regards to Canadian politics, that should be out on January 31.

[Gaétan]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Well this has been an interesting read. Libbies terrified by Polievre. Yet not one of them present any evidence that he's this corporate puppet they claim he is.

Libbies...nobody who's been paying attention the last 4 years, believes a word you say.

The past is a guarantee of the future. He never said he'll do the contrary of what his party always did.

[Nationalist]

Such silliness.

We know what the Liberals would do, because they've been in power for 8 years.

We have a pretty good idea what the Conservatives would do because we've all seen Poilievre's campaign site.

https://www.conservative.ca/pierre-poilievre/

And here's a summary of his platform:

https://globalnews.ca/news/9120550/pierre-poilievre-campaign-promises/

Seems reasonable to me. What's there to be wound like tops about?

[Venandi]

3 hours ago, Gaétan said:

The past is a guarantee of the future.

Which is why liberal/NDP voters scare me now,  you had to work very hard to make that the case.

 I actually used to vote liberal back when they weren't crazy and their values actually aligned with my own. Something changed though... and it wasn't me. 

If you read the story below and can actually relate to it then your coping skills are hugely lacking, you're part of the problem but don't realize it, there's no negotiating with you,  no reasoning with you and I wouldn't go even if I were invited. 

None of the leftists I know are this bat sh%$ crazy... is it truly a thing or is FOX just on one of their rants here?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/top-five-absurd-tips-from-liberal-pundits-surviving-holidays-trump-voting-family

Edited December 25, 2024 by Venandi

[Michael Hardner]

8 minutes ago, Venandi said:

 

 I actually used to vote liberal back when they weren't crazy and their values actually aligned with my own.  

American liberal and Canadian Liberal are very different things.

Fox is to the Public what the mirror was to Narcissus.  Don't go there for information, ie. wholesome knowledge.

[Aristides]

Trudeau needs to go but Poilievre as the alternative makes me cringe. He hasn't really offered any policy, it's just everything broken, everything bad and the guy won't get a security clearance even though his own party has probably been compromised by foreign actors. How do you have faith in that?

[Politics1990]

17 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Trudeau needs to go but Poilievre as the alternative makes me cringe. He hasn't really offered any policy, it's just everything broken, everything bad and the guy won't get a security clearance even though his own party has probably been compromised by foreign actors. How do you have faith in that?

everyone knows what hes gonna do  cut social programs cut cbc..  give more money to oil and gas rich companys lol. 

[Michael Hardner]

24 minutes ago, Aristides said:

 How do you have faith in that?

Well, you can't.

But if you look at how Trudeau has done politics, and the way our systems encourage know-nothing campaigns you can't really hold it against him.

He has mouthed some noises about corporate welfare, and dismantling the CBC.  Will he do either of these things?  Who can say for sure?

[Michael Hardner]

10 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

... give more money to oil and gas rich companys lol. 

But... the oil people already vote for him. What is he going to do for the East to keep them happy? 

Harper conveyed civility, and calm. He spent his way out of a recession the way liberals do. After many long years he was rewarded with a majority government. A pretty prize.  

I can't see the road ahead. Can you?

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Seems reasonable to me. What's there to be wound like tops about?

His climate change policy is nonexistent. There's no reason whatsoever to believe he gives a damn about climate change or tackling Canada's emissions. His most vociferous supporters certainly don't and given the absence of any details from Poilievre I'll draw my conclusions about his intentions from the utterly complete disdain his supporters have for the issue.

Am I supposed to believe PP is lying to his constituents and he really does care?

[Legato]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

His climate change policy is nonexistent.

No one has one.

[blackbird]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

His climate change policy is nonexistent. There's no reason whatsoever to believe he gives a damn about climate change or tackling Canada's emissions. His most vociferous supporters certainly don't and given the absence of any details from Poilievre I'll draw my conclusions about his intentions from the utterly complete disdain his supporters have for the issue.

Am I supposed to believe PP is lying to his constituents and he really does care?

You climate change U.N. puppets believe the big LIE that man can control the climate.

Canada's contributions are miniscule and we have been hammered with carbon taxes for nothing.  It has been likened to throwing a cup of coffee into an olympic-sized swimming pool.  That how much fossil emissions Canada contributes.

This is the biggest injustice in history.

When are all the Greta goons going to wake up and realize man cannot control the climate.  Man is not god as much as many think he is.  

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, Legato said:

No one has one.

Poilievre's supporters say he does. You figure they're lying?

[Legato]

Just now, eyeball said:

Poilievre's supporters say he does. You figure they're lying?

They do?

[eyeball]

6 minutes ago, blackbird said:

You climate change U.N. puppets believe the big LIE that man can control the climate.

No one is trying to control the climate. Stop listening to MTG.

It's emissions that need to be controlled, something PP says technology will do. Do you believe him? If so why?

Edited December 25, 2024 by eyeball

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

American liberal and Canadian Liberal are very different things.

Agreed, but only for the moment... they're working hard at it.

I'm a bit staggered by the amount of damage, polarization, and bogus wedge issues they have created in a short period of time. The NDP scares me too.

I absolutely cringe at the idea of safe supply, trans gender aggressiveness, immigration in excess of capacity, deliberately bogus constructs around the gun control issue, attacks on freedom of speech, and a bunch of other things that would fill an entire thread. 

I think it's bad enough now... I absolutely don't want to see where they take it in the future. And to thwart those efforts the next time around, I want a bunch of the things I previously supported walked back and utterly crushed now. 

And considering that the only thing required to avoid my (admittedly) visceral reaction to all this was taking yes for an answer and extended the same courtesies being demanded to those who provided them... I think this was the greatest political (and tactical) blunder of a lifetime.

To get along with me, all ya had to do was nothing. The inability to accept yes as an answer and do nothing is (to me) what the Brits call gobsmacking.'

So, I'll ask a simple question here, when it comes to my change of heart and lack of future support, I'd like to know what you thought was going to happen?  

Done for the next few days BTW, Merry Christmas and best wishes for 2025.

Cheers

 

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, Legato said:

They do?

Sure, just wait, someone will be along soon enough to defend PP from my assertion that he's full of shit.

[blackbird]

Just now, eyeball said:

No one is trying to control the climate. Stop listening to MTG.

It's emissions that need to be controlled, some PP says technology will do. Do you believe him? If so why?

I don't believe any of the war on climate change nonsense.  Biggest lie and scam in history.

Many of the common folk have been deceived by their U.N. masters and politicians, especially the liberal/left and their puppet media outlets.

Many of us are fed up and won't take it any more.  We had 16 years of this carbon tax madness in B.C. and what has it done for the weather or climate?   Absolutely nothing.  Biggest left wing commie tax grab in history.