DOGE

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

There is NO SS bureaucracy. The overhead on SS spending is <<2%, lDIOT.

THat's still 2.8 billion dollars.  I don't know that i'd say that's nothing. 

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11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It's people like you that are the reason that Americans went for this. All you bring to the table is lies why would anyone listen to you?

You are the biggest liar on the forum. 95% of your posts are based off of lies.

Go back to Moscow, and collect your cheque, for the disinformation, RussianFox.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

You are the biggest liar on the forum.

anytime you are wrong and I am right you call it a lie because you can't emotionally cope with the truth.

But that's not actually what lying is.

Lying would be like claiming that under harper medical transfers immediately dropped and then posting a graph that shows they immediately shot up  

I know, I know. You've done something mind meltingly stupid again and you are so embarrassed and buffered that now you want to chase me around the forum calling names in the hopes that it makes you feel better than learning to actually make an intelligent argument. How's that working out for you?

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Why do you lie when it is so easily debunked?

Axios is reporting no cuts. Axios is as lwnj as it gets.

YOU'RE LYING. They are planning cuts as stated in YOUR CITE. They are not planning "sweeping cuts" YET.

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Vivek Ramaswamy told Axios' Mike Allen at the Aspen Security Forum that it would be premature for his new efficiency commission — which he's co-leading with Elon Musk — to discuss sweeping cuts to Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid.

Why it matters: Those programs are by far the biggest lines in the federal budget, making them ripe targets for a commission with a mandate to slash spending. But cutting entitlements is also the third rail of American politics.

Ramaswamy said Wednesday that the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) will look for waste and fraud in those programs, including people receiving payments who shouldn't be.

 

[gatomontes99]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

YOU'RE LYING. They are planning cuts as stated in YOUR CITE. They are not planning "sweeping cuts" YET.

 

Waste and fraud isn't a cut in spending. Stopping waste and fraud makes the money available for proper use...like paying claims. Which the programs are having trouble doing.

Why are you against stopping waste and fraud? Lmao...Are you such a simp for big government that you actually defend waste and fraud? .

[Nationalist]

34 minutes ago, robosmith said:

There is NO SS bureaucracy. The overhead on SS spending is <<2%, lDIOT.

No social security bureaucracy...

Bah ha ha ha ha...

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No social security bureaucracy...

Bah ha ha ha ha...

Says the ^lDIOT with NO FACTS....

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29 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

anytime you are wrong and I am right you call it a lie because you can't emotionally cope with the truth.

[Black Dog]

5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Why do you lie when it is so easily debunked?

Axios is reporting no cuts. Axios is as lwnj as it gets.

Right no cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid planned except for the planned cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid:

"Right now, there are hundreds of billions of dollars flowing out the door of all of those programs ending up in the hands of people who, even under the statute, should not be receiving those payments," Ramaswamy contended.

 

[Hodad]

30 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Waste and fraud isn't a cut in spending. Stopping waste and fraud makes the money available for proper use...like paying claims. Which the programs are having trouble doing.

Why are you against stopping waste and fraud? Lmao...Are you such a simp for big government that you actually defend waste and fraud? .

For being a smart guy, Elon Musk is pretty dumb about people. Chalk it up to neurodiversity if you like, but his gross mismanagement of Twitter/X is ample evidence of his unfitness to run the human side of of an enterprise. Right after the acquisition, before he understood the company at all, he  started cutting "unnecessary" roles and functions to disastrous results. Now we're going to replay that horror show on a national scale. 

Nobody likes waste and fraud. We just acknowledge that Musk is demonstrably unfit to make such judgments. 

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Well it's not like anyone thought you'd come back with an intelligent response   Cry harder kiddo

[Legato]

5 minutes ago, Hodad said:

For being a smart guy, Elon Musk is pretty dumb about people. Chalk it up to neurodiversity if you like, but his gross mismanagement of Twitter/X is ample evidence of his unfitness to run the human side of of an enterprise. Right after the acquisition, before he understood the company at all, he  started cutting "unnecessary" roles and functions to disastrous results. Now we're going to replay that horror show on a national scale. 

Nobody likes waste and fraud. We just acknowledge that Musk is demonstrably unfit to make such judgments. 

Lol

[User]

56 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Right after the acquisition, before he understood the company at all, he  started cutting "unnecessary" roles and functions to disastrous results. Now we're going to replay that horror show on a national scale. 

Narrator: There was no disaster. 

 

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Right no cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid planned except for the planned cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid:

OK. If you want to play stupid games that preventing waste, fraud, and abuse is a "cut" then yeah, its a cut. 

So... what is your point? You like waste, fraud, and abuse now?

[impartialobserver]

DOGE is going to run into bureaucratic and legal roadblocks. This will take more than 4 years to accomplish. 

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Right no cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid planned except for the planned cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid:

"Right now, there are hundreds of billions of dollars flowing out the door of all of those programs ending up in the hands of people who, even under the statute, should not be receiving those payments," Ramaswamy contended.

 

I debunked this before you even posted:

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Waste and fraud isn't a cut in spending. Stopping waste and fraud makes the money available for proper use...like paying claims. Which the programs are having trouble doing.

Why are you against stopping waste and fraud? Lmao...Are you such a simp for big government that you actually defend waste and fraud? .

 

[ironstone]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

SS/Medicare are NOT "entitlement programs," they are paid FOR by workers and paid out TO workers over 65 based on their employment HISTORY. Duh

More people collecting, but apparently not enough people paying into the fund to meet projected demand.

Looking solely at the trust fund that covers retirement and survivor benefits, Social Security will only be able to afford scheduled payments in full until 2033, roughly the same projection as last year. At that time, the fund’s reserves will be depleted, and continuing income will only cover 79% of benefits owed.

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

For being a smart guy, Elon Musk is pretty dumb about people. Chalk it up to neurodiversity if you like, but his gross mismanagement of Twitter/X is ample evidence of his unfitness to run the human side of of an enterprise. Right after the acquisition, before he understood the company at all, he  started cutting "unnecessary" roles and functions to disastrous results. Now we're going to replay that horror show on a national scale. 

Nobody likes waste and fraud. We just acknowledge that Musk is demonstrably unfit to make such judgments. 

Twitter is still running. It now has thousands of fact checkers that add community notes and do it for free. It has tackled a lot of the bots (you can't get them all). It has gotten rod.of tje government interference and exposed it for what it was. You don't like that he allows conservative, liberal and moderate voices to ne heard and they all have to be truthful or suffer a community note. X has become a tremendous free speech outlet. Embrace it. It's good for everyone.

[impartialobserver]

SS/Medicare simply need a different funding formula. Demand> supply due to an aging population. Benefits paid need to decrease. On the supply side, they could use some automation as a way of cost savings. 

[Michael Hardner]

15 minutes ago, ironstone said:

More people collecting, but apparently not enough people paying into the fund to meet projected demand.

Looking solely at the trust fund that covers retirement and survivor benefits, Social Security will only be able to afford scheduled payments in full until 2033, roughly the same projection as last year. At that time, the fund’s reserves will be depleted, and continuing income will only cover 79% of benefits owed.

Yes, however it's complicated.  They could adjust it to project to 100%.  It won't be "bankrupt"

[Black Dog]

31 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

I debunked this before you even posted:

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Waste and fraud isn't a cut in spending. Stopping waste and fraud makes the money available for proper use...like paying claims. Which the programs are having trouble doing.

Why are you against stopping waste and fraud? Lmao...Are you such a simp for big government that you actually defend waste and fraud? .

Yeah that's a semantic trick: just call any spending you don't like "waste" and voila.

It's also very funny that you clowns want to go after "fraud" in social security but also want to gut the IRS to prevent it from going after tax cheats. 

27 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Twitter is still running. It now has thousands of fact checkers that add community notes and do it for free. It has tackled a lot of the bots (you can't get them all). It has gotten rod.of tje government interference and exposed it for what it was. You don't like that he allows conservative, liberal and moderate voices to ne heard and they all have to be truthful or suffer a community note. X has become a tremendous free speech outlet. Embrace it. It's good for everyone.

The only way you can believe any of this is if you;'re not actually on Twitter.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Yeah that's a semantic trick: just call any spending you don't like "waste" and voila.

 

Or just call any waste that you like semantics and voila

[gatomontes99]

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Yeah that's a semantic trick: just call any spending you don't like "waste" and voila.

It's not semantic. If you go to the grocery store with $100 to buy food and buy candy, chips and soda it could be argued you wasted your money. Now, you take the candy, soda and chips back and buy chicken, rice and brocoli. You cut waste and fraud but didn't cut the budget. Instead, you used the money correctly. Making SS and Medicare work properly is not making a budget cut.

5 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

It's also very funny that you clowns want to go after "fraud" in social security but also want to gut the IRS to prevent it from going after tax cheats.

Who said that? I know of plans to simplify the tax code so that it is far easier to enforce and far harder to cheat. I also know of push back on thousands of new ARMED IRS agents. But that was about this weird need to have accountants armed. How is that necessary?

8 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

The only way you can believe any of this is if you;'re not actually on Twitter.

Half of the threads I start come from X. It is just easier than doing the quote function on a mobile browser.

[Black Dog]

9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

It's not semantic. If you go to the grocery store with $100 to buy food and buy candy, chips and soda it could be argued you wasted your money. Now, you take the candy, soda and chips back and buy chicken, rice and brocoli. You cut waste and fraud but didn't cut the budget. Instead, you used the money correctly. Making SS and Medicare work properly is not making a budget cut.

Ah but you see I don't think for a second that any of these people involved are interested in that outcome.

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Who said that?

Vivek Ramaswamy for one.

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I know of plans to simplify the tax code so that it is far easier to enforce and far harder to cheat. I also know of push back on thousands of new ARMED IRS agents. But that was about this weird need to have accountants armed. How is that necessary?

They aren't accountants. They are special agents who investigate financial crimes, money laundering, tax-related identity theft and terrorist financing. 

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Half of the threads I start come from X. It is just easier than doing the quote function on a mobile browser.

Well then I'm not sure how you can be on X and not see that it sucks shit. It's mainly bots, dropshipping ads and a heaping helping of Nazis.

[Michael Hardner]

6 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

 

Well then I'm not sure how you can be on X and not see that it sucks shit. It's mainly bots, dropshipping ads and a heaping helping of Nazis.

I left it because it was buggy as hell and my feed was constantly screwed up.

[Black Dog]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I left it because it was buggy as hell and my feed was constantly screwed up.

There's that as well.

Me: "I want to see posts from the people i follow in chronological order."

X: "F*ck you, you get antisemitism and porn bots."