eyeball Posted December 11, 2024 Report Posted December 11, 2024 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: I USED TO trust the institutions. Then I realized they are and have been for several years now, full o' sh1t...for the most part. They fully support and advocate for destructive ideas that we all now clearly see. Too bad so many people like you attacked, cancelled and declared war on leftists who could see this and were telling you to open your stupid eyes decades ago. It makes it hard to believe your ability to realize anything given the alternatives so many conservatives now gravitate towards. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted December 12, 2024 Report Posted December 12, 2024 38 minutes ago, eyeball said: That's right it does say that. Probably because conservative politicians have gravitated towards things like chemtrail conspiracies, space lasers and believing lefties can guide hurricanes into red states to steal elections. The right-wing Big-Tent is a Freaker's Ball that no self-respecting person who can rub more than two brain cells together would have anything to do with. The self-respecting intelligent conservatives who know better, like Rex Tillerson, Liz Cheney or David Frum have all been cancelled by you guys. David Frum puts it best when he asks ..."what's left of the philosophy formerly known as conservatism beyond ‘fúck you, leftists?" A freakshow. I can say similar about Libbies. The gender bullsh1t and boys in girls' sports. They desire to pay out student loans. The sanctuary city and state crap. And David Frum is a failed Canadian journalist I believe? TDS still lives on with endless lies and unsubstantiated accusations like...Conservatives are all uneducated. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted December 12, 2024 Report Posted December 12, 2024 38 minutes ago, eyeball said: Too bad so many people like you attacked, cancelled and declared war on leftists who could see this and were telling you to open your stupid eyes decades ago. It makes it hard to believe your ability to realize anything given the alternatives so many conservatives now gravitate towards. Quite some time ago, I started a thread to find out which side...Liberal or Conservative...starts the nasty discourse. I bet you can guess which side started with the sh1t-slinging. I and many others have told you people several times...you started this culture war...but we Conservatives will finish it. And now we uneducated blockheads, are finishing it. Ya gits wut ya pays fer. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted December 12, 2024 Report Posted December 12, 2024 8 hours ago, eyeball said: Too bad so many people like you attacked, cancelled and declared war on leftists who could see this and were telling you to open your stupid eyes decades ago. It makes it hard to believe your ability to realize anything given the alternatives so many conservatives now gravitate towards. Oh you're back to your old I've been saying this for decades bull crap. Conservatives did not attack cancel or declare war on any leftists. And the leftists have not been bad-mouthing institutions, they have been promoting them and taking them over in Canada since the seventies Your revisionist history is bullshit. You just had 10 years of complete leftism running this country and this province to "open your eyes" And fix any problems with institutions that you saw and you completely blew it and destroyed the country I don't know how you live with yourself. If I had to lie that much just to support my worldview I would be too ashamed to wake up in the morning 1 Quote
impartialobserver Posted December 12, 2024 Report Posted December 12, 2024 the DOGE will face incredible legal obstacles if they try to simply lay off the staff. There is no indication yet that they intend to do so but once someone has been employed for 2 years.. it is very difficult to fire them. Like it or not.. that is the reality. State governments probationary periods are usually 1 year and federal is 2. The legal costs incurred by trying to lay them off would far outweigh the savings of not paying them. Quote
Hodad Posted December 12, 2024 Report Posted December 12, 2024 (edited) 23 hours ago, Nationalist said: This slow boring thing is insulting and bullsh1t. From your link... This sort of garbage is a big reason for the existing "Culture War" that @Michael Hardner dislikes so much. The assumption is that the Conservatives are uneducated and easily lead astray. Nothing could be further from the truth. All you've accomplished with this post, is to further show off your own lack of education and intellect. Good on ya. "Nothing could be further from the truth"? ^^ Case in point. If you looked at data instead of your feelings you'd already know that this is actually--and alarmingly--true. There's an entire political movement premised on the idea that the people voting will believe any dumb thing they are told if it runs against those pesky experts, elites and institutions. Facts: More facts: Edited December 12, 2024 by Hodad 2 Quote
Nationalist Posted December 12, 2024 Report Posted December 12, 2024 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Hodad said: "Nothing could be further from the truth"? ^^ Case in point. If you looked at data instead of your feelings you'd already know that this is actually--and alarmingly--true. There's an entire political movement premised on the idea that the people voting will believe any dumb thing they are told if it runs against those pesky experts, elites and institutions. Facts: More facts: The more you know...the less you trust these "experts, elites and institutions" you worship blindly. Blind trust is not intelligent what so ever. Those who see what they say, then see the actual facts, realize your "experts, elites and institutions" are liars. But...such people don't suffer from the TDS affliction you do so...ya...there's that. YOUR SIDE LOST for a multitude of reasons. Your blindness, hatred and smugness are only a sample of the reasons. Perhaps one day you'll actually mature. This apparently is not that day. Enjoy the coming POTUS. Edited December 12, 2024 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Hodad Posted December 12, 2024 Report Posted December 12, 2024 22 minutes ago, Nationalist said: The more you know...the less you trust these "experts, elites and institutions" you worship blindly. Blind trust is not intelligent what so ever. Those who see what they say, then see the actual facts, realize your "experts, elites and institutions" are liars. But...such people don't suffer from the TDS affliction you do so...ya...there's that. YOUR SIDE LOST for a multitude of reasons. Your blindness, hatred and smugness are only a sample of the reasons. Perhaps one day you'll actually mature. This apparently is not that day. Enjoy the coming POTUS. Let's be clear: you and I both know that you're not capable of anything beyond blind trust. You don't don't have any awareness of or interest in data, and no facility for reason. You are simply going to blindly follow whoever says something contrary to the "elites," whom you jealously mistrust. That's why you're a "case in point" and here you're just making the point again. Experts are experts because they have the information, training and aptitude to excel in their fields. They are "elite" because they achieve in those fields far beyond their peers and light years beyond what laypeople are able to follow. They aren't your enemies, even though they sometimes offer you truths that are inconvenient. If you were "mature" instead of simply old, you'd appreciate their work. But instead you plug your ears and wait for some know-nothing politician to tell you something vastly less informed but far more palatable. And here we see how the Republican party has become intolerable to the learned. 2 Quote
Nationalist Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 2 hours ago, Hodad said: Let's be clear: you and I both know that you're not capable of anything beyond blind trust. You don't don't have any awareness of or interest in data, and no facility for reason. You are simply going to blindly follow whoever says something contrary to the "elites," whom you jealously mistrust. That's why you're a "case in point" and here you're just making the point again. Experts are experts because they have the information, training and aptitude to excel in their fields. They are "elite" because they achieve in those fields far beyond their peers and light years beyond what laypeople are able to follow. They aren't your enemies, even though they sometimes offer you truths that are inconvenient. If you were "mature" instead of simply old, you'd appreciate their work. But instead you plug your ears and wait for some know-nothing politician to tell you something vastly less informed but far more palatable. And here we see how the Republican party has become intolerable to the learned. Ya...experts like Fauci? Grow up. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
NAME REMOVED Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Ya...experts like Fauci? Grow up. Dr.Fauci has long been one of the most respected immunologists in the World. He has director of NIAID from 1984-2022, and advised the White House on infectious diseases for four decades. Was at the forefront, in fighting the AIDS epidemic. He was given the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2008, the highest honour a civilian can achieve in America. However, beginning with COVID, the MAGA loons tried to discredit him, and suggest (for unknown reasons), that he was a criminal, and responsible for "thousands of deaths" in America. What is next for them? Painting Terry Fox as a drunken gambler? Edited December 13, 2024 by DUI_Offender 1 Quote
Aristides Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 42 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Ya...experts like Fauci? Grow up. Take your own advice. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 (edited) 39 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Dr.Fauci has long been one of the most respected immunologists in the World. He has director of NIAID from 1984-2022, and advised the White House on infectious diseases for four decades. Was at the forefront, in fighting the AIDS epidemic. He was given the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2008, the highest honour a civilian can achieve in America. However, beginning with COVID, the MAGA loons tried to discredit him, and suggest (for unknown reasons), that he was a criminal, and responsible for "thousands of deaths" in America. What is next for them? Painting Terry Fox as a drunken gambler? Fauci committed perjury. He belongs in jail. 9 minutes ago, Aristides said: Take your own advice. I am grown up and see things for what they are. Not what you'd like them to be. Edited December 13, 2024 by Nationalist 2 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Hodad Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Ya...experts like Fauci? Grow up. Yes, goofus, one of the world's preeminent immunologists with massive influence on the field does, indeed, qualify as an expert. Sorry that the science didn't align with your politics, but that's life. Being scapegoated by the ignorant asshats on Fox doesn't un-make an expert. Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 35 minutes ago, Aristides said: Take your own advice. It's too late. He is an old man that yells at clouds. 1 Quote
User Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 4 hours ago, Hodad said: ^^ Case in point. If you looked at data instead of your feelings you'd already know that this is actually--and alarmingly--true. There is no case in point here. The argument at hand was that Conservatives are uneducated. Nothing you posted here, none of your data, shows that. Even if we ignore your ignorance of your trying to claim that being educated is limited to university study, all your data shows is that until folks get to postgraduate degrees, there is not any significant difference. Even in postgraduate, it is about a 60/40 split. There is nothing "alarmingly" true about what you are saying here at all. And this is why you hide from me like the coward you are. 6 minutes ago, Hodad said: Yes, goofus, one of the world's preeminent immunologists with massive influence on the field does, indeed, qualify as an expert. Was he an "expert" when he lied about masks? This is why you don't listen to people just because they are experts, you listen to the actual facts, logic, common sense, and reason. 2 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
gatomontes99 Posted December 13, 2024 Author Report Posted December 13, 2024 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: Dr.Fauci has long been one of the most respected immunologists in the World. He has director of NIAID from 1984-2022, and advised the White House on infectious diseases for four decades. Was at the forefront, in fighting the AIDS epidemic. He was given the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2008, the highest honour a civilian can achieve in America. However, beginning with COVID, the MAGA loons tried to discredit him, and suggest (for unknown reasons), that he was a criminal, and responsible for "thousands of deaths" in America. What is next for them? Painting Terry Fox as a drunken gambler? No. He got discredited with Ebola. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
NAME REMOVED Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 21 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: No. He got discredited with Ebola. Elaborate, please.. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted December 13, 2024 Author Report Posted December 13, 2024 12 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Elaborate, please.. The Ebola response was a disaster. Quote https://pphr.princeton.edu/2015/03/14/ebola-what-went-wrong/ Question: What was the biggest shortcoming of the US and West African governments’ response to the Ebola crisis? Answer: We were coming from behind in the response. This is a virus that we have known to exist since 1976. We know that it happens in outbreaks. We know that when it happens, the immediate need is for facilities to take care of patients and to deliver healthcare in a way whereby you don’t infect healthcare workers. The knowledge of how to deal with the issue is not rocket science, and it’s not new. Late in 2013, when the outbreak first started, we should have immediately been pursuing identification, isolation, barrier nursing—and we could have influenced the course of events. In some ways that’s not very helpful because it’s historical. Now, when we are in the middle of the dilemma, the US says we’re going to send a few hundred of our troops, and we’re going to build facilities to take care of patients. That’s very well and good. The problem is, these things take time. And in the meantime, the infection is progressing, and the transmission is happening. It would be unfair to ask “why didn’t [West African governments] respond better?” We today are facing a very serious challenge because most of the resources, most of the attention is going towards Ebola now, but what about all the other diseases that are there? What are you going to do with the polio campaign? What are you going to do with the immunization campaign? The resources are very limited, and there is no question today—there is a shift to put it for Ebola. The depth of resources and the depth of capabilities is very thin. You suck it in one direction, you lose it in other direction. Basically, we had decades to prepare but we didn't have a test or protocols to follow. And I had forgotten that H1N1 was also a big blunder: If you don't want to watch, he basically says the response was crap and it was only by pure luck that H1N1 didn't kill us all...a little hyperbole on my part, but you get the point. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Nationalist Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 51 minutes ago, Hodad said: Yes, goofus, one of the world's preeminent immunologists with massive influence on the field does, indeed, qualify as an expert. Sorry that the science didn't align with your politics, but that's life. Being scapegoated by the ignorant asshats on Fox doesn't un-make an expert. The science doesn't align with the truth...m0ron. Fauci is a criminal.! 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
NAME REMOVED Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 18 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Fauci is a criminal.! Was Tommy Douglas a criminal too? Quote
CdnFox Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: Was Tommy Douglas a criminal too? Actually recently there was a big NDP push to consider removing him and all statues and so on and so forth because it turned out he was a horrible racist to the point of being criminal. The NDP wanted to take away his honors because of that. Two things can be true. A person can be an expert at a thing, and that same person can also be dishonest and be a criminal. We have seen that many many times It would appear given the information that we now know that there is little doubt that fauci Acted in self-interest rather than in the interest of the general public and hid information that he was concerned about. It further appears that he made up certain things that he presented as being scientifically factual. Whether he's a criminal or not I couldn't say, but it's very clear that some of his behavior may very well lean in that direction and it certainly isn't clear that he isn't one 1 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 (edited) 12 hours ago, CdnFox said: Actually recently there was a big NDP push to consider removing him and all statues and so on and so forth because it turned out he was a horrible racist to the point of being criminal. The NDP wanted to take away his honors because of that. Can you substantiate that with facts, or are you lying again? 12 hours ago, CdnFox said: Two things can be true. A person can be an expert at a thing, and that same person can also be dishonest and be a criminal. We have seen that many many times Most politicians lie on occasion. What is your point? Most politicians are not criminals though. 12 hours ago, CdnFox said: It would appear given the information that we now know that there is little doubt that fauci Acted in self-interest rather than in the interest of the general public and hid information that he was concerned about. It further appears that he made up certain things that he presented as being scientifically factual. Fauci acted in the interest of the general public. Trump, and the MAGA loons were jealous that Fauci did not fall in line, with Trump's "everything is fine...no need to shut anything down" positions. 12 hours ago, CdnFox said: Whether he's a criminal or not I couldn't say, but it's very clear that some of his behavior may very well lean in that direction and it certainly isn't clear that he isn't one Compared to Trump, he is a saint. However, your handlers in Russia will be proud of you for posting this. Edited December 13, 2024 by DUI_Offender Quote
CdnFox Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 48 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Can you substantiate that with facts, or are you lying again? You know I'm telling the truth, you're just an incredible liar who feels that rather than dealing with the truth you would like to see lion. But I tell you what, if you honestly missed all that which I believe we even posted here if I'm not mistaken, and if you can't find it with Google, i'll happily post the link for you right this second. But you have to add to your sig line " I'm a constant liar and drunk, pay me no mind - DUI_Offender" and nothing more Deal? 51 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Most politicians lie on occasion. What is your point? Most politicians are not criminals though. Fauci is. Quote Fauci acted in the interest of the general public. We now know that's not true and in fact he lied to try and cover up his attempts to benefit himself. This is why the democrats are begging Biden to Pardon him of all in any crimes so that he can't be held to account Quote Trump, and the MAGA loons were jealous that Fauci did not fall in line, with Trump's "everything is fine...no need to shut anything down" positions. I think they were more upset with the lying and such which would come later. Trump was fine with Fauci when he was in office but that was before we knew what he had done Quote Compared to Trump, he is a saint. If you worship venomous snakes maybe Quote However, your handlers in Russia will be proud of you for posting this. Ah yes, you're little admission that you know I'm right and that you're losing again. You should misquote me again, that always makes people respect you Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 (edited) 17 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You know I'm telling the truth, you're just an incredible liar who feels that rather than dealing with the truth you would like to see lion. But I tell you what, if you honestly missed all that which I believe we even posted here if I'm not mistaken, and if you can't find it with Google, i'll happily post the link for you right this second. But you have to add to your sig line " I'm a constant liar and drunk, pay me no mind - DUI_Offender" and nothing more Deal? Fauci is. We now know that's not true and in fact he lied to try and cover up his attempts to benefit himself. This is why the democrats are begging Biden to Pardon him of all in any crimes so that he can't be held to account I think they were more upset with the lying and such which would come later. Trump was fine with Fauci when he was in office but that was before we knew what he had done If you worship venomous snakes maybe Ah yes, you're little admission that you know I'm right and that you're losing again. You should misquote me again, that always makes people respect you Although I quit drinking, if someone had to take a shot every time @CdnFox either tells a lie, or accuses others of lying, they would be dead of alcohol poisoning within hours, of reading his posts. Edited December 13, 2024 by DUI_Offender Quote
CdnFox Posted December 13, 2024 Report Posted December 13, 2024 1 minute ago, DUI_Offender said: Although I quit drinking, if someone had to take a shot every time @CdnFox either tells a lie, or accuses others of lying, they would be dead of alcohol poisoning within hours, or reading his posts. I'm used to you trying to blame me for your own stupidity, but I love that you're now trying to blame me for your alcoholism And it's pretty obvious for many of your posts here that you have not quit drinking at all. By the way switching to NyQuil doesn't count as stopping drinking Quote
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