Do these woke lefty climate change fighters want Canadians to eat crickets now?

[Radiorum]

There’s a long history of the federal government providing grants and funding to a variety of businesses with the express goal of creating jobs. It’s always about creating jobs.

$9 million is really not a lot of money for the federal government.

The federal government provided Air Canada with $5.9 billion in Covid-19 assistance in 2021. Is that more to your liking?

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

See thats why this country has doubled it debt load in the last 8 years....this is the attitude most leftist have ....lets just print some more....it's only paper or numbers in a leger...Someone has to pray this money back, you, me your grandkids, their grandkids...

Have a little faith man...the economy is poised to pivot and grow baby grow. We'll all be farting in silk just as soon as PP can get his tongue up Trump's bum along with Danielle Smith and Doug Ford and put Canada on the same program. The debt will be a thing of the past in no time.

It'll be like the promised land - a tiny government, a huge military, balanced budgets...heck we'll probably even throw out dental care and compensate convoy organizers for the lawfare being waged against them.

Just hang on a little longer - don't go all MAID on us. It's always darkest just before the dawn.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

Almost a big enough amount to make me consider buying a lottery ticket for.
It's not 1967 anymore Dr Evil....

We get it, you lefties don't care about government waste.

The problem is there's dozens if not hundreds of things like this and you start to add it up all of a sudden it's a lot of money.

And then you cry like hell when there isn't enough cash for one of the programs you like such a safe supply. And you get big mad when you get told that sorry, the crickets ate your safe supply money.

Good government doesn't waste millions of dollars. Millions lead to hundreds of millions which lead to billions. Good government only spends money on things it needs to spend money on and doesn't throw it away. It's too bad you on the left don't really understand that

[herbie]

20 hours ago, Army Guy said:

See thats why this country has doubled it debt load in the last 8 years....this is the attitude most leftist have ....lets just print some more....it's only paper or numbers in a leger...Someone has to pray this money back, you, me your grandkids, their grandkids...

and they're spending $11 million on a project that will promote the auto parts industry by showing how you could create complete vewhicles from Canadian parts.
Another "leftist liberal waste" promoting Cdn business that would be just f^cking fine if a Tory govt was doing it?

110 of these projects would be a billion dollars and a billion dollars isn't very much in the spending for a country, like griping your wife wasted $40 on a new toaster because it matched the colour of the kitchen better than the old one. 30 years ago there was outrage at Chretien's 'what's a billion here and there' when you could buy a 30 pack of smokes for $3.50 and a bottle of Coke for a couple quarters. Now you're outraged at spending one of those quarters that are as valuable as pennies.

CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP My dime! My shiny dime! You spent my shiny dime!

 

[CdnFox]

On 11/16/2024 at 5:58 PM, Radiorum said:

There’s a long history of the federal government providing grants and funding to a variety of businesses with the express goal of creating jobs. It’s always about creating jobs.

Which is why it is so disappointing to see federal funding going into something that has nothing to do with jobs but is all about ideology.

[Radiorum]

37 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Which is why it is so disappointing to see federal funding going into something that has nothing to do with jobs but is all about ideology.

I'm not sure you can divorce politics from ideology. Politics without ideology has no principles.

Oh, wait a minute, I just reminded myself of Trump.

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

I'm not sure you can divorce politics from ideology.

 

Well of course you can. It happens all the time. As you yourself said governments are not new to the idea of giving tax breaks or funding in order to promote Industries to increase the tax base. Nothing ideological about that.

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Politics without ideology has no principles.

That's ridiculous. Ideology is not the source of principles. At least not principles in the terms that we're using it right now. All principles are is a set of rules that governs Behavior. It can be a fundamental principle of a government to increase the tax base through growing the economy and it has nothing to do with ideology

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.Oh, wait a minute, I just reminded myself of Trump.

Because you make up crap about him too?  

[taxme]

On 11/14/2024 at 8:55 AM, ExFlyer said:

Exactly what does cricket farming have to do with climate change?

Crickets are a food source eaten world wide

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7835793/

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/A-world-map-showing-countries-where-crickets-are-consumed-as-food-USA-United-State-of_fig1_347522792

 

You need to get out of your basement LOL

 

Oh, FFS. How the F did you get this far in life with so little, comrade? Are you one of those WEF Zionist globalist supporters by chance? You sure smell like one, comrade. Pe-u. LOL.

[taxme]

On 11/14/2024 at 8:29 AM, blackbird said:

This is the first I have heard of this.

Has Trudeau really spent 9 million dollars of taxpayer money to subsidize a cricket factory in Canada?

Appears to be true.  Is this part of Trudeau's war on climate change?  By changing Canadian diets does he hope to reduce fossil fuel emissions?  I wonder if this comes from the World Economic Forum (WEF).

"FIRST READING: Trudeau’s $9 million bet on edible crickets runs into trouble

TOP STORY

Just two years after the Trudeau government put up nearly $9 million to help build the world’s largest edible cricket factory, the facility is dramatically cutting staff and production in what they say is an extended retooling.

Aspire Food Group, which cut the ribbon last year on a 150,000-square-foot edible cricket factory in London, Ont., has just laid off two thirds of its workforce and significantly cut back shifts, saying they need to make “some improvements to its manufacturing system.” 

Speaking to the trade publication AgFunderNews, Aspire CEO David Rosenberg said the company “will be running the production line four times a week instead of two shifts a day every day. We’re 150 people down to 50 and we plan on hiring back up in July.”

This is despite very generous grants from the Trudeau government. In June 2022, Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada announced a grant of “up to $8.5 million” to build a “commercial facility to produce cricket protein.”

What resulted was a factory billed by Aspire as the “world’s largest cricket production facility.” As per a CBC profile published at its grand opening, the factory was to house four billion crickets at any one time, and churn out 13 million kilograms of edible crickets each year.

Aspire’s signature pitch – and one of the main reasons they attracted federal government attention – is that crickets have a lower environmental footprint than meat or dairy.

The 2022 Government of Canada statement announcing the $8.5 million grant mentioned this several times. The subsidy would help Aspire produce “high volumes of nutritious food with a low environmental footprint” and “meet global demand for food by using less water, energy and space and emitting significantly less greenhouse gas emissions.”

FIRST READING: Trudeau’s $9 million bet on edible crickets runs into trouble

If this doesn't prove the insanity of this government, nothing will.

 

 

And who will want to be the first one here to start eating crickets in Canada for dinner? Is this the reason why the WEF globalist plans are to make steak more expensive and not affordable in Canada today? Your dam right it is.

I can be dam well sure that those WEF Zionist globalists will not be eating crickets anytime soon in their WEF world. Only buffoons like exflyer will be eating crickets while the WEF globalists will be eating steak. Exflyer is either stupid or is a WEF globalist troll? The latter works for me! 

Either that cricket farm will go out of business very quickly because nobody will buy crickets to eat or the Marxist in Ottawa will keep donating our tax dollars to this WEF enterprise. I think the latter will be happening. 

The only scum that does not give a shit about the environment is the WEF globalists who show us every day what they think about climate change. One of them is that they will still be flying around the world in their private polluting jets by the hundreds every day and then take their big gas guzzling emissions vehicles to take them to where they are going.

It's dimwits like troll exflyer that wants us all to believe that EV's and eating crickets is the way to go. But he refuses to buy an EV and will also refuse to eat crickets. These Marxist globalists like exflyer are nothing more than a bunch of environmental whackos who will never practice what they preach just like his buddies in the WEF. They are all just a bunch of lying hypocrites. 

That poor old cricket pictured above.  What did the cricket ever do to deserve a fork shoved thru is body? Thanks exflyer, you bug killer. LOL.

[taxme]

On 11/16/2024 at 7:00 PM, eyeball said:

Have a little faith man...the economy is poised to pivot and grow baby grow. We'll all be farting in silk just as soon as PP can get his tongue up Trump's bum along with Danielle Smith and Doug Ford and put Canada on the same program. The debt will be a thing of the past in no time.

It'll be like the promised land - a tiny government, a huge military, balanced budgets...heck we'll probably even throw out dental care and compensate convoy organizers for the lawfare being waged against them.

Just hang on a little longer - don't go all MAID on us. It's always darkest just before the dawn.

I must agree with you that this Marxist dictator in Ottawa does owe the convoy organizers an apology and given them back their money, rights and freedoms. Two of the convoy organizers are still in the gulag even though they have been found not guilty, you dumb azz Marxist. This is what you Marxists always fight for. Corruption and greed. Arse holes. 

[herbie]

38 minutes ago, taxme said:

Marxist dictator in Ottawa does owe the convoy organizers an apology

I'm sorry I didn't lock you up sooner.
       -J.T.

[taxme]

45 minutes ago, herbie said:

I'm sorry I didn't lock you up sooner.
       -J.T.

JT probably has my name on his Marxist hit list already. LOL.

[PIK]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

I must agree with you that this Marxist dictator in Ottawa does owe the convoy organizers an apology and given them back their money, rights and freedoms. Two of the convoy organizers are still in the gulag even though they have been found not guilty, you dumb azz Marxist. This is what you Marxists always fight for. Corruption and greed. Arse holes. 

Given what the east Indians and pro palastinains protesters have gotten away with, I think it's time to end this charade and let them go home.

[ExFlyer]

21 hours ago, taxme said:

Oh, FFS. ......LOL.

Conservatives announce new innocuous thing they’re terrified of

OTTAWA – The Conservative Party of Canada has officially announced that in addition to walkable cities, vaccines, and transgender children, they are also deeply afraid of eating bugs.

“We WON’T Eat Bugs,” the CPC said in an online petition it posted this week. “No one is asking us to, but we’re so scared someone might, and it could be Justin Trudeau. And that makes us furious and so very frightened of this version of Justin Trudeau that we made up who is making us eat bugs.”

 

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2024/11/conservatives-announce-new-innocuous-thing-theyre-terrified-of/

[Radiorum]

22 hours ago, CdnFox said:

As you yourself said governments are not new to the idea of giving tax breaks or funding in order to promote Industries to increase the tax base. Nothing ideological about that.

It depends on how you define ideology. If it is about reaching "ideals" then providing individuals with dignity-boosting jobs is definitely an ideal.  

22 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Ideology is not the source of principles. At least not principles in the terms that we're using it right now. All principles are is a set of rules that governs Behavior. It can be a fundamental principle of a government to increase the tax base through growing the economy and it has nothing to do with ideology

Principles flow from ideology. We ALL have an ideology. It's your ideas about the world. Principles are the rules you follow in accordance with your ideology. But what of someone who does not see the world but only themselves? Such is Trump, who puts himself at the centre of the universe, and his primary principle is: "What is good for me?"

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Radiorum said:

It depends on how you define ideology.

Oh look. Yet again when you're losing an argument you simply decide to redefine words. How shocking.  Seems to be your go to defense. " i don't like what you said so i'll just pretend it means something else"

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If it is about reaching "ideals" then providing individuals with dignity-boosting jobs is definitely an ideal.  

As noted, it isn't historically. Nor should it be. Governments are not in the business of spreading ideology.  And there's nothing "ideal" about giving someone a fake sense of worth instead of a real one. 

 

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Principles flow from ideology.

No. They don't.

Some ideology May Inspire various principles but principles are completely independent of ideology.

 

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We ALL have an ideology. It's your ideas about the world. Principles are the rules you follow in accordance with your ideology. But what of someone who does not see the world but only themselves? Such is Trump, who puts himself at the centre of the universe, and his primary principle is: "What is good for me?"

 

Bullshit. How are the fundamental principles of accounting derived from anybody's ideology? The principles of good governance are based on practicality not ideology. The principle of equivalent exchange was not based on ideology. I could go on for as long as you'd like.

The vast majority of principles are based on practicality and functionality, not ideology. 

You are 100% wrong. Gov'ts are not supposed to be in the business of promoting ideology. They are in the business of good governance, the stewardship and management of personal rights and the collective interests vested in the central authority. 

This was just a complete waste of money. 

[Army Guy]

On 11/17/2024 at 6:00 PM, herbie said:

and they're spending $11 million on a project that will promote the auto parts industry by showing how you could create complete vewhicles from Canadian parts.
Another "leftist liberal waste" promoting Cdn business that would be just f^cking fine if a Tory govt was doing it?

110 of these projects would be a billion dollars and a billion dollars isn't very much in the spending for a country, like griping your wife wasted $40 on a new toaster because it matched the colour of the kitchen better than the old one. 30 years ago there was outrage at Chretien's 'what's a billion here and there' when you could buy a 30 pack of smokes for $3.50 and a bottle of Coke for a couple quarters. Now you're outraged at spending one of those quarters that are as valuable as pennies.

CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP My dime! My shiny dime! You spent my shiny dime!

 

Look around you genius, there are cars every where....a market already built and ready for business for good jobs....Do you see anyone eating crickets in your neighborhood...., do you know of a cricket market here in Canada other than feeding your pets..... do you think if i set up a food cart in the mall i would sell any....your a m0ron if you think this was a good idea....and a waste of money....

So it does not matter what the government does with our tax dollars as long as it creates a few jobs...nor does it matter that this proposal failed even before construction was finished....i mean why did this group not go to the bank...most likely the bank laughed them out of the room....now all you have to do is apply for tax dollars and poof...everything makes sense...is there any one checking the business cases here doing any research....not really, i mean other than a liberal who would think growing crickets in Canada is a good idea....shit thats going to catch on, we will all be billionaires...it's going to be bigger than smarties...

 

[Radiorum]

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Governments are not in the business of spreading ideology

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

principles are completely independent of ideology.

 

Every form of government is based on an ideology. Democracy is an ideology, communism is an ideology, socialism is an ideology, anarchism is an ideology, and so on...

The principles of democracy are human rights, free and fair elections, accountability and transparency, the rule of law, and citizen participation.

 

[herbie]

18 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Look around you genius, there are cars every where....a market already built and ready for business for good jobs

You're arguing that govt shouldn't invest in innovation, like saying the proper thing would've been proper to wait until Elon Musk was born and made SpaceX a marketable business instead of trying to keep up with those leftist commie space achievements?
Shouldn't have wasted money in the 1950s on hybrid grains etc?

Are you so dogmatically conservative you believe we shouldn't even shit unless business does it first?

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, Radiorum said:

The principles of democracy are human rights, free and fair elections, accountability and transparency, the rule of law, and [forced] citizen participation.

Dannng. Judging by that list, what is Canada? 

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Canada? 

Only the best gosh-darned country in the whole entire world.

[WestCanMan]

Gov't "elites" have gone from the proverbial "Let them eat cake", to "Make them eat bugs".

1. I'd actually be worried if they were mass-breeding bugs that they'd be locusts
2. Crickets would probably be better for us than half the things in a supermarket these days

[WestCanMan]

Just now, Radiorum said:

Only the best gosh-darned country in the whole entire world.

We definitely were, but there's no way that:

1. our gov't is transparent or accountable,
2. we all have human rights, and
3. citizens' participation is voluntary. 

Our gov't is scandal-ridden, shrouded in secrecy, they don't answer to anyone, our access to public spaces is determined by our level of obedience, and the gov't forces us to participate in controversial vaccination programs. 

[Radiorum]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

our gov't is transparent or accountable,

What do you want to know? I'll Google it for you.

 

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

we all have human rights

You're clearly not aware of life in Russia. How'd you like to be arrested for merely attending the funeral of the opposition leader (Navalny) Putin had killed?

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

citizens' participation is voluntary. 

I don't know what this means.

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

the gov't forces us to participate in controversial vaccination programs. 

Lol. Big deal. 

[Legato]

5 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

What do you want to know? I'll Google it for you.

 

You're clearly not aware of life in Russia. How'd you like to be arrested for merely attending the funeral of the opposition leader (Navalny) Putin had killed?

I don't know what this means.

Lol. Big deal. 

You forgot Uncle Tom Cobbly in those nonsensical witterings.