West Posted November 14, 2024 Author Report Posted November 14, 2024 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Lol I literally quoted his report. You quoted Bill Barr's spin. I'm right, you're wrong. It wasn't Bill Barr's spin. He quoted Mueller's own words 😆. Scroll up. I gave you a politico article attributing those words to Mueller. Edited November 14, 2024 by West Quote
Black Dog Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 5 minutes ago, West said: It wasn't Bill Barr's spin. He quoted Mueller's own words 😆. Scroll up. I gave you a politico article attributing those words to Mueller. There's nothing in the article that says "he could not establish a connection between any American and the Russian government" while the report says there were multiple connections. It seems you're either making shit up or just have terrible reading comprehension. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
CdnFox Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 2 hours ago, Black Dog said: You are very dumb: As set forth in detail in this report, the Special Counsel’s investigation established that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election principally through two operations. First, a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents. The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign. no that's not the same as saying trump had connections or there was any collusion. In fact the report couldn't find any way that the Russians actually directly worked with trump's campaign to improve trump's chances of the election legally or illegally. There was absolutely no connection between Russia and the social media posts and trump or the hacking and trump or anything like that So if your whole argument is that some people that work for trump knew some Russians I'm afraid that falls pretty flat on his face. Quote
robosmith Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 1 hour ago, West said: It wasn't Bill Barr's spin. He quoted Mueller's own words 😆. Scroll up. I gave you a politico article attributing those words to Mueller. You took one sentence out of 2 PARAGRAPHS of context. And of course Barr completely IGNORED all of the cooperation between Manafort and Russian agents detailed in the report starting on page 129. Of course WE KNOW you won't read it, cause it PROVES YOU WRONG. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Lol I literally quoted his report. You quoted Bill Barr's spin. I'm right, you're wrong. So the Bill Barr that seems to hate Trump gave him a positive spin on the official report? Quote
West Posted November 15, 2024 Author Report Posted November 15, 2024 28 minutes ago, robosmith said: You took one sentence out of 2 PARAGRAPHS of context. And of course Barr completely IGNORED all of the cooperation between Manafort and Russian agents detailed in the report starting on page 129. Of course WE KNOW you won't read it, cause it PROVES YOU WRONG. I'm honestly not sure what you are yapping about. The report was a few hundred pages long. Barr gave the bottom line conclusion by quoting Mueller. Again, this whole Russian collusion nonsense is a delusional conspiracy theory. I don't care that Jeff Sessions met with an ambassador to the United States. Senators meet with ambassadors all the time. Only delusional people try to whip it up into some conspiracy theory 8 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: So the Bill Barr that seems to hate Trump gave him a positive spin on the official report? Bill Barr quoted Mueller's bottom line conclusion directly in his statement. Whether or not some guy knows a Russian is irrelevant. I'm sure that Manafort knew a few Australians too. Doesn't mean that he "colluded" with Australia lol Quote
robosmith Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 3 hours ago, West said: I'm honestly not sure what you are yapping about. The report was a few hundred pages long. Barr gave the bottom line conclusion by quoting Mueller. Again, this whole Russian collusion nonsense is a delusional conspiracy theory. I don't care that Jeff Sessions met with an ambassador to the United States. Senators meet with ambassadors all the time. Only delusional people try to whip it up into some conspiracy theory Bill Barr quoted Mueller's bottom line conclusion directly in his statement. Whether or not some guy knows a Russian is irrelevant. I'm sure that Manafort knew a few Australians too. Doesn't mean that he "colluded" with Australia lol I knew you wouldn't read what was cited because you don't care about what actually happened, like a good MAGA CULTIEST. You Canucks need to stop interfering in OUR ELECTIONS. 🤮 Quote
WestCanMan Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 I don't doubt that there are Demi activist judges and AGs who would be in jail if there was any justice in the world, but stooping to their level wouldn't be good for democracy. Leftards aren't actually worried that Trump lawfare is coming for them, it's just part of their propaganda. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth.
CouchPotato Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 25 minutes ago, robosmith said: You Canucks need to stop interfering in OUR ELECTIONS. 🤮 So you come to a Canadian forum to talk about American politics hoping no one will ever respond or just that they will agree with you? Quote
robosmith Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 1 minute ago, CouchPotato said: So you come to a Canadian forum to talk about American politics hoping no one will ever respond or just that they will agree with you? This is NOT a "Canadian forum." You can tell by reading the title at the top of the page where it says "Federal Politics in the United States." Duh Quote
cannuck Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 14 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: If Americans really cared about bringing down the deficit, they would always elect democrats, considering deficits rise when Republicans are in office, and fall when Democrats are leading the country, It's amazing that it took me less than 5 minutes to find this out, yet many of the MAGA fanatics refuse to do the most basic economic research when it comes to US deficits. Again, you have been sucked in by the Uniparty. Repigs and Dummycrats don't run the country, Goldman Sucks does. Quote
DUI_Offender Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 1 hour ago, cannuck said: Again, you have been sucked in by the Uniparty. Repigs and Dummycrats don't run the country, Goldman Sucks does. How old are you.....12? Quote
cannuck Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 7 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: How old are you.....12? Have to admire the depth of intellectual gift you bring to the discussion. https://www.investopedia.com/news/26-goldman-sachs-alumni-who-run-world-gs/c An article simple enough for even you to understand? Quote
DUI_Offender Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 (edited) 3 minutes ago, cannuck said: Have to admire the depth of intellectual gift you bring to the discussion. https://www.investopedia.com/news/26-goldman-sachs-alumni-who-run-world-gs/c An article simple enough for even you to understand? 404 Page Not Found Sorry, the page you're looking for is unavailable. You might find what you're looking for by using our menu or search options. Thanks for that "insightful article.... Edited November 15, 2024 by DUI_Offender Quote
cannuck Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: "404....Page Not Found." Thanks for that "insightful article.... My bad. Didn't check the link https://www.investopedia.com/news/26-goldman-sachs-alumni-who-run-world-gs/ Quote
Hodad Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 21 hours ago, West said: “The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities,” the special counsel wrote in his findings https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/24/breaking-news-barr-to-release-summary-of-mueller-report-1233771 So I'll ask you a second time.. are you going to retract your statement calling me a liar? Your credibility is in the toilet. You can bolster it a little bit by admitting that you are mistaking about the contents of the Mueller report. Retract? No, you are quite factually lying. Deliberately. Without hesitation or shame. You claimed, " Yes he concluded after his racketeering scam that he could not establish a connection between any American and the Russian government." As has been quoted for you from multiple actual sources, Mueller did indeed find multiple connections between the Trump campaign and Russian intelligence agents. Most notably the info pipeline from Manafort to Kilimnik. The subsequent Senate intelligence report confirmed and expanded on these findings. And Kilimnik was ultimately determined to have delivered the Manafort intelligence directly to the Russian Intelligence agency running the misinformation campaign. He's formally sanctioned for it. All a matter of public record. You're such a clown. I even gave you a link to the Mueller report and you still can't manage to cite it. Jeebus. 1 1 Quote
West Posted November 15, 2024 Author Report Posted November 15, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hodad said: Retract? No, you are quite factually lying. Deliberately. Without hesitation or shame. You claimed, " Yes he concluded after his racketeering scam that he could not establish a connection between any American and the Russian government." As has been quoted for you from multiple actual sources, Mueller did indeed find multiple connections between the Trump campaign and Russian intelligence agents. Most notably the info pipeline from Manafort to Kilimnik. The subsequent Senate intelligence report confirmed and expanded on these findings. And Kilimnik was ultimately determined to have delivered the Manafort intelligence directly to the Russian Intelligence agency running the misinformation campaign. He's formally sanctioned for it. All a matter of public record. You're such a clown. I even gave you a link to the Mueller report and you still can't manage to cite it. Jeebus. I literally gave you a quote from the Mueller report. And you dishonestly backtrack and shift goalposts to show that you were right when your original allegations were delusional. Edited November 15, 2024 by West 1 Quote
West Posted November 15, 2024 Author Report Posted November 15, 2024 The bottom line: The "connections" that the leftist trolls are referring to here are: 1. A senator doing senator stuff and meeting with diplomats from foreign countries 2. A guy giving publicly available polling data to a business guy in Europe who knew a guy who knew a guy who may have known Putin. Really they don't understand this whole collusion nonsense was just dirty politics and a smear campaign against a sitting president 1 Quote
Hodad Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 8 minutes ago, West said: I literally gave you a quote from the Mueller report. And you dishonestly backtrack and shift goalposts to show that you were right when your original allegations were delusional. You're as dumb as a goddamn bag of hammers. I didn't move the goalpost. I literally quoted your claim. And I literally quoted from the Mueller report which contradicts your claim. Again, for the bag-of-hammers crowd. You claimed, " Yes he concluded after his racketeering scam that he could not establish a connection between any American and the Russian government." From the Mueller report: "The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign." It's not hidden. It's page farking ONE. 1 Quote
West Posted November 15, 2024 Author Report Posted November 15, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hodad said: You're as dumb as a goddamn bag of hammers. I didn't move the goalpost. I literally quoted your claim. And I literally quoted from the Mueller report which contradicts your claim. Again, for the bag-of-hammers crowd. You claimed, " Yes he concluded after his racketeering scam that he could not establish a connection between any American and the Russian government." From the Mueller report: "The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign." It's not hidden. It's page farking ONE. 8 minutes ago, Hodad said: You're as dumb as a goddamn bag of hammers. I didn't move the goalpost. I literally quoted your claim. And I literally quoted from the Mueller report which contradicts your claim. Again, for the bag-of-hammers crowd. You claimed, " Yes he concluded after his racketeering scam that he could not establish a connection between any American and the Russian government." From the Mueller report: "The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign." It's not hidden. It's page farking ONE. You are such a dishonest piece of shit. The link you speak of was a senator taking a meeting with a foreign diplomat. Do you think that means he was connected to Russia to overthrow the US government? Come on. If you were honest you'd call bs Edited November 15, 2024 by West 1 1 Quote
Black Dog Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 18 hours ago, CdnFox said: no that's not the same as saying trump had connections or there was any collusion. It is in fact the same thing as saying Trump's campaign had connections with Russia. He established that Trump campaign members welcomed foreign influence into the election and then compromised themselves with the Russian government by covering it up. That he did not find smoking gun evidence of a conspiracy does not mean there's plenty of evidence pointing in that direction. Quote In fact the report couldn't find any way that the Russians actually directly worked with trump's campaign to improve trump's chances of the election legally or illegally. There was absolutely no connection between Russia and the social media posts and trump or the hacking and trump or anything like that Given the extent of the contacts between the campaign and Russian figures, the idea that all this stuff was happening without the knowledge of the Trump campaign beggars belief. They were certainly in touch about the stolen data WikiLeaks released. 2 Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
Hodad Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 (edited) 27 minutes ago, West said: You are such a dishonest piece of shit. The link you speak of was a senator taking a meeting with a foreign diplomat. Do you think that means he was connected to Russia to overthrow the US government? Come on. If you were honest you'd call bs No, it wasn't you useless, squishy turd. Do you know what the word "numerous" means? I'll help you out. It means many--more than one, more than a few or several. First and farking foremost among those many relationships is Campaign Manager Paul Manafort sending campaign research and strategy to a Russian intelligence operative who was working against the American people. Edited November 15, 2024 by Hodad 1 Quote
robosmith Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Hodad said: Retract? No, you are quite factually lying. Deliberately. Without hesitation or shame. You claimed, " Yes he concluded after his racketeering scam that he could not establish a connection between any American and the Russian government." As has been quoted for you from multiple actual sources, Mueller did indeed find multiple connections between the Trump campaign and Russian intelligence agents. Most notably the info pipeline from Manafort to Kilimnik. The subsequent Senate intelligence report confirmed and expanded on these findings. And Kilimnik was ultimately determined to have delivered the Manafort intelligence directly to the Russian Intelligence agency running the misinformation campaign. He's formally sanctioned for it. All a matter of public record. You're such a clown. I even gave you a link to the Mueller report and you still can't manage to cite it. Jeebus. West will NEVER look at EVIDENCE which proves him WRONG. Just like he never searches for evidence to back his claims when a Tweet will do. LMAO 1 Quote
Hodad Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 8 minutes ago, Black Dog said: It is in fact the same thing as saying Trump's campaign had connections with Russia. He established that Trump campaign members welcomed foreign influence into the election and then compromised themselves with the Russian government by covering it up. That he did not find smoking gun evidence of a conspiracy does not mean there's plenty of evidence pointing in that direction. Given the extent of the contacts between the campaign and Russian figures, the idea that all this stuff was happening without the knowledge of the Trump campaign beggars belief. They were certainly in touch about the stolen data WikiLeaks released. And, more tellingly, if Trump wasn't aware and discovered that Manafort had betrayed him by sharing sensitive campaign info with the Russians then Trump would not have pardoned Manafort. -- Trump is a vindictive shit. He rewards loyalty and punishes anything that can be construed at disloyalty. He protected and rewarded Manafort, not just for sake of loyalty, but also Manafort wouldn't roll on him. Trump knew. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 34 minutes ago, West said: The bottom line: The "connections" that the leftist trolls are referring to here are: 1. A senator doing senator stuff and meeting with diplomats from foreign countries 2. A guy giving publicly available polling data to a business guy in Europe who knew a guy who knew a guy who may have known Putin. Really they don't understand this whole collusion nonsense was just dirty politics and a smear campaign against a sitting president Your ^BULLSHIT is a very poor (BANKRUPT) substitute to refute the ACTUAL EXTENSIVE EVIDENCE which has been POSTED HERE. LMAO Quote
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