Democrat lawyers who used lawfare against Trump and his supporters now worried about sweet sweets revenge and retribution

[West]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Your ^BULLSHIT is a very poor (BANKRUPT) substitute to refute the ACTUAL EXTENSIVE EVIDENCE which has been POSTED HERE. LMAO

 

9 minutes ago, Hodad said:

No, it wasn't you useless, squishy turd. 

Do you know what the word "numerous" means? 

I'll help you out. It means many--more than one, more than a few or several. First and farking foremost among those many relationships is Campaign Manager Paul Manafort sending campaign research and strategy to a Russian intelligence operative who was working against the American people. 

Yeah it was. 

One of the things that kicked off this whole fiasco was an allegation against Jeff Sessions to remove him from his appointment. 

The rationale was a meeting he took as senator with the Russian ambassador to the United States..

Do you think that is evidence Jeff Sessions had a connection to Russia to overthrow the US government, yes or no? 

[robosmith]

7 minutes ago, West said:

 

Yeah it was. 

One of the things that kicked off this whole fiasco was an allegation against Jeff Sessions to remove him from his appointment. 

The rationale was a meeting he took as senator with the Russian ambassador to the United States..

Do you think that is evidence Jeff Sessions had a connection to Russia to overthrow the US government, yes or no? 

You are CONFUSING actions by a sitting Senator doing government business, with a CAMPAIGN MANAGER who holds NO OFFICE working on a CAMPAIGN who had EXTENSIVE contacts with Russian Intelligence AGENTS and SHARED PRIVATE POLLING DATA.

The conspiracy was to get Trump ELECTED with ILLEGAL FOREIGN CAMPAIGN AID, not necessarily "overthrow the US government." That will come later.... LMAO

[West]

21 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You are CONFUSING actions by a sitting Senator doing government business, with a CAMPAIGN MANAGER who holds NO OFFICE working on a CAMPAIGN who had EXTENSIVE contacts with Russian Intelligence AGENTS and SHARED PRIVATE POLLING DATA.

The conspiracy was to get Trump ELECTED with ILLEGAL FOREIGN CAMPAIGN AID, not necessarily "overthrow the US government." That will come later.... LMAO

It's a yes or no question. 

Based on your dance around i would assume you believe their to be some degree of embellishment by the tards who peddled the collusion delusional, correct? 

 

Edited November 15, 2024 by West

[Hodad]

56 minutes ago, West said:

 

Yeah it was. 

One of the things that kicked off this whole fiasco was an allegation against Jeff Sessions to remove him from his appointment. 

The rationale was a meeting he took as senator with the Russian ambassador to the United States..

Do you think that is evidence Jeff Sessions had a connection to Russia to overthrow the US government, yes or no? 

I'm glad you can name one thing. Now break out the rest of your fingers (however many you have left) and start counting upward until you get to "numerous."

Again, the Mueller report DIRECTLY contradicts what you said about the Mueller report. -- So how is this asinine "conversation" dragging on for pages. Just be wrong and move on with your life--whatever that may mean.

[robosmith]

36 minutes ago, West said:

It's a yes or no question. 

It's an irrelevant question based on a false premise.

 

36 minutes ago, West said:

Based on your dance around i would assume you believe their to be some degree of embellishment by the tards who peddled the collusion delusional, correct? 

Read the f'ing Mueller report and the Senate Intel Committee report and ONLY then can we have an INFORMED discussion.

I already read them in the entirety.

[West]

29 minutes ago, Hodad said:

I'm glad you can name one thing. Now break out the rest of your fingers (however many you have left) and start counting upward until you get to "numerous."

Again, the Mueller report DIRECTLY contradicts what you said about the Mueller report. -- So how is this asinine "conversation" dragging on for pages. Just be wrong and move on with your life--whatever that may mean.

No it doesn't. 

You claimed i haven't provided anything from the report..

In fact I've provided you a direct quote from the report. 

The bottom line conclusion is yes Jeff Sessions met with a Russian ambassador. No, that doesn't mean there was any connection to the Russian collusion conspiracy theory. 

Just because somebody knew a Russian doesn't mean they tried to overthrow the government. This is exactly what banana republics do to discredit political opponents..

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

It is in fact the same thing as saying Trump's campaign had connections with Russia.

No, that's simply dishonest. 

The fact that somebody that worked on the campaign also talked to Russian businessman is not the same thing as saying that the campaign itself or that trump had connections with Russia. For that you would have to demonstrate that trump authorized or had a policy of pursuing that or paid or received money or an explicit quid pro quo benefit in exchange or the like.

And that is not the case. 

So no. It is not the same thing in the slightest. 

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He established that Trump campaign members welcomed foreign influence into the election 

I'm sure some were happy that the russians were messing with clinton. But that's not the same as having 'connections' or colluding. Sorry. 

 

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Given the extent of the contacts between the campaign and Russian figures, the idea that all this stuff was happening without the knowledge of the Trump campaign beggars belief.

Not even a little.  The level of contact with regards to the campaign stuff is actually pretty tiny, and more importantly inconsequential. None of the contact actually changed or affected anything. 

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They were certainly in touch about the stolen data WikiLeaks released.

If you mean 'in touch' in the sense that wikileaks tipped them off when something was about to be released then sure but again that's inconsequential.  Nothing ever happened as a result that would have happened any different otherwise. They say 'hey big dump coming next week' to one of trump's guys and he goes and tells the boss "big news next week" and trump's like "ok that's great we'll see what it is then i guess" and that's it.  That is nothing. 

It goes without saying that pretty much all of these higher level players are going to have contacts with other nations and in many cases more than one.    But that is not the same as the campaign having those ties or there being 'collusion' or the like. Its like the 'three degrees of separation from kevin bacon' thing. 

For any of it to have meaning you would have to be able to say "This thing or event here would not have taken place if it wasn't for the communication and coordination between trump's campaign and the russians", and there just isn't anything like that.  If there was no communication between anyone on trump's team and the Russians everything would have happened exactly as it did. Therefore, no collusion

[West]

41 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It's an irrelevant question based on a false premise.

 

Read the f'ing Mueller report and the Senate Intel Committee report and ONLY then can we have an INFORMED discussion.

I already read them in the entirety.

How so? 

It shows the absurdity. And also shows the dems had no problem trampling over freedom of assembly just to score a few political points and rating on CNN. 

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, West said:

No it doesn't. 

You claimed i haven't provided anything from the report..

In fact I've provided you a direct quote from the report. 

The bottom line conclusion is yes Jeff Sessions met with a Russian ambassador. No, that doesn't mean there was any connection to the Russian collusion conspiracy theory. 

Just because somebody knew a Russian doesn't mean they tried to overthrow the government. This is exactly what banana republics do to discredit political opponents..

Jeebus. What I said before was patently unfair to the bag of hammers.

 

Bag of hammers, you have my formal apology.

[robosmith]

58 minutes ago, West said:

How so? 

It shows the absurdity. And also shows the dems had no problem trampling over freedom of assembly just to score a few political points and rating on CNN. 

The FALSE premise: Russian collusion goal was to "overthrow the government."

The goal was to get Trump elected. Duh

Irrelevant because Sessions as a member of the Senate had legitimate reasons to speak with the Russian ambassador.

Trump's CAMPAIGN had NO LEGITIMATE REASON plot with Russian agents and share CAMPAIGN DATA.

Hodad is right, "bag of hammers" is an insult to the hammers.

[West]

15 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The FALSE premise: Russian collusion goal was to "overthrow the government."

The goal was to get Trump elected. Duh

Irrelevant because Sessions as a member of the Senate had legitimate reasons to speak with the Russian ambassador.

Trump's CAMPAIGN had NO LEGITIMATE REASON plot with Russian agents and share CAMPAIGN DATA.

Hodad is right, "bag of hammers" is an insult to the hammers.

That's not a false premise..they railroaded sessions over this bs delusion. 

Just like the many other people they've tried to cancel over the past 8 years because Democrats are f'd in the head. 

Which ultimately gets back to the point of this thread. That those messed up people who pushed delusional conspiracy theories against conservatives are now crying because the chickens are gonna come home to roost

Edited November 15, 2024 by West

[CdnFox]

59 minutes ago, robosmith said:

 

Trump's CAMPAIGN had NO LEGITIMATE REASON plot with Russian agents and share CAMPAIGN DATA.

 

The guy who shared the data did. Although they obviously didn't plot anything. He gave them some bragging data that was commonly available and that's it. Nothing changed and no 'plot' 

 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, West said:

That's not a false premise..they railroaded sessions over this bs delusion. 

It's the false premise YOU STATED.

2 hours ago, West said:

Just like the many other people they've tried to cancel over the past 8 years because Democrats are f'd in the head.

Or maybe you're f'd in the head and don't understand what's happening HERE.

2 hours ago, West said:

Which ultimately gets back to the point of this thread. That those messed up people who pushed delusional conspiracy theories against conservatives are now crying because the chickens are gonna come home to roost

Only reason Trump won is because Democrats didn't turn out to vote. 14M fewer than last time.

And the only reason you believe Russian collusion is "delusional" is because you REFUSE TO LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE. Duh

[West]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

It's the false premise YOU STATED.

Or maybe you're f'd in the head and don't understand what's happening HERE.

Only reason Trump won is because Democrats didn't turn out to vote. 14M fewer than last time.

And the only reason you believe Russian collusion is "delusional" is because you REFUSE TO LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE. Duh

^^^ another MSNBC  LIE and DELUSION this guy is peddling. Duh..no reason to believe this delusion/lie^^^^

[robosmith]

17 hours ago, West said:

^^^ another MSNBC  LIE and DELUSION this guy is peddling. Duh..no reason to believe this delusion/lie^^^^

There is PLENTY of REASONS laid out in the the Mueller report and the Senate Intel Committee report that you refuse to look at because you're scared it PROVES YOU WRONG. LMAO

[West]

18 minutes ago, robosmith said:

There is PLENTY of REASONS laid out in the the Mueller report and the Senate Intel Committee report that you refuse to look at because you're scared it PROVES YOU WRONG. LMAO

The Senate intel report was about as dumb as spending millions of dollars on the Mueller report that turned some meetings between a sitting US senator and a foreign ambassador to the United States into some grandiose conspiracy theory. 

It's just leftists being demented and some Republicans being really messed up in the head and trying to keep the war machine going. Sad

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, West said:

The Senate intel report was about as dumb as spending millions of dollars on the Mueller report that turned some meetings between a sitting US senator and a foreign ambassador to the United States into some grandiose conspiracy theory. 

It's just leftists being demented and some Republicans being really messed up in the head and trying to keep the war machine going. Sad

The Republicans ran the Senate Intel Committee hearings since they CONTROLLED THE SENATE. Duh.

Thanks for demonstrating your IGNORANCE and REFLEXIVE MAGA CULT thought free response. LMAO

[West]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The Republicans ran the Senate Intel Committee hearings since they CONTROLLED THE SENATE. Duh.

Thanks for demonstrating your IGNORANCE and REFLEXIVE MAGA CULT thought free response. LMAO

You talking about the one run by Liz Cheney, who's family likely made a shit ton of money off of blowing up poor people? 

[robosmith]

Just now, West said:

You talking about the one run by Liz Cheney, who's family likely made a shit ton of money off of blowing up poor people? 

Likely? You mean HER FATHER who pushed the Iraq invasion.

Sorry but that doesn't tarnish Liz who turned her back on the Trumpublicans.

It was GWB who gave the order to invade Iraq. Duh

[West]

9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Likely? You mean HER FATHER who pushed the Iraq invasion.

Sorry but that doesn't tarnish Liz who turned her back on the Trumpublicans.

It was GWB who gave the order to invade Iraq. Duh

Liz Cheney and Hillary Clinton are really no different. Yes i understand that the Cheney Republicans joined forces with Hillary Clinton but that's likely because they are beholden to the same lobbyists. 

It's amazing how many of Hillary Clinton's enemies are alleged to be rapists, isn't it? 

Edited November 16, 2024 by West

[myata]

The mob boss can be the president now. The attorneys and lawyers who tried to prosecute him, are accused of "lawfare". Mob-boss-presidents have to be above the law, obviously.

In the new America. In the window, now. No way it'll just go away, somehow or magically. No way we couldn't have known.

Edited November 18, 2024 by myata

[Nationalist]

On 11/15/2024 at 4:50 PM, Hodad said:

Jeebus. What I said before was patently unfair to the bag of hammers.

 

Bag of hammers, you have my formal apology.

Ya know what? You're a angry little Libbie cultist. You and your posse of effeminate Tweenkies who would shoot your own mothers if you thought it would negatively reflect on Orangemanbad.

Your own opinions are why Trump will be POTUS. America and indeed the world, is tired of your childish behavior. 

As for your bag of hammers...they called and said you need to stop invoking them. They want you to know that there is a low bar of intellect for invoking them...

And you don't reach it.

Edited November 18, 2024 by Nationalist

[Hodad]

11 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ya know what? You're a angry little Libbie cultist. You and your posse of effeminate Tweenkies who would shoot your own mothers if you thought it would negatively reflect on Orangemanbad.

Your own opinions are why Trump will be POTUS. America and indeed the world, is tired of your childish behavior. 

As for your bag of hammers...they called and said you need to stop invoking them. They want you to know that there is a low bar of intellect for invoking them...

And you don't reach it.

No one has any idea what your talking about you senile old twat. 

Take your meds and don't wander off and get lost again.

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Hodad said:

No one has any idea what your talking about you senile old twat. 

Take your meds and don't wander off and get lost again.

I guess that's one way of admitting you lost......

[Legato]

38 minutes ago, Hodad said:

No one has any idea what your talking about you senile old twat. 

Take your meds and don't wander off and get lost again.

Name calling, the fallback of a loser and closet Russian ballerina wannabee.