Hodad Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, West said: Lol.. The Obama administration orchestrated the connections to justify the spying. There was no active coordination between Donnie and Russia; Brennan coordinated the interactions then used it as fodder to peddle delusions on CNN. Sure, Dummy. Obama tricked Manafort into sharing information with his Russian spy buddy. He tricked Don Jr. and Kusher into taking formal meetings with Russian assets who claimed to be able to give them dirt on Clinton. And Obama definitely tricked Roger Stone into getting involved in the dunno of the Russian hacks to WikiLeaks No reason at all to investigate this ties. Just Obama the puppet master running the world. 1 Quote
Legato Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 29 minutes ago, Hodad said: Are you bad at math, or calling Trump a dictator with a terrible economy? At any rate, our current economy is the envy of the world. It's measurably excellent. Those are simple facts. The election is over. You can stop pretending otherwise. Quote
Hodad Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 12 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: That has all been debunked. Durham didn't know the CIA and the other four of the five eyes colluded to create the evidence that Trump was working with Russia. So it is laughable to say the intelligence services should investigate him. They made it all up. CIA and foreign intelligence agencies illegally targeted 26 Trump associates before 2016 Russia collusion claims: report Do you ever read the articles you post? They suspected the campaign was colluding with Russia because the campaign manager was colluding with Russian intelligence. “They were making contacts and bumping Trump people going back to March 2016,” a source told the outlet. I'll give you one guess when Manafort joined the Trump campaign.🫣 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hodad said: Do you ever read the articles you post? They suspected the campaign was colluding with Russia because the campaign manager was colluding with Russian intelligence. “They were making contacts and bumping Trump people going back to March 2016,” a source told the outlet. I'll give you one guess when Manafort joined the Trump campaign.🫣 What was Manafort actually found guilty of doing? Hint: it wasn't working with Russia. Quote
Hodad Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 14 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Prove one thing I said was inaccurate. You claim that Trump "decentralized government regulation of abortion." Which is just asinine. He didn't do anything, but his pet justices on the SCOTUS sure did. And theu did was to take from individual Americans a constitutionally recognized right to abortion. Get it? They didn't do anything to decentralize regulation. They stripped away an individual right. It would be no different than stripping away individual rights to free speech and making it a "states issue." Decentralized regulation of abortion. OMFG. That is indeed propaganda of the highest order. Not to mention that "decreasing our international military presence" by surrendering to the Taliban and undermining our alliances-- present and future--aren't exactly wins. As soon as he's able, he'll "reduce our military" support of Ukraine by gifting it to his dictator buddy. 1 1 Quote
Hodad Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: What was Manafort actually found guilty of doing? Hint: it wasn't working with Russia. Are you going to pretend that he wasn't working with the Russians? Really? That's a matter of public record. GTFO. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, Hodad said: You claim that Trump "decentralized government regulation of abortion." Which is just asinine. He didn't do anything, but his pet justices on the SCOTUS sure did. And theu did was to take from individual Americans a constitutionally recognized right to abortion. Get it? They didn't do anything to decentralize regulation. They stripped away an individual right. It would be no different than stripping away individual rights to free speech and making it a "states issue." Didn't y'all blame Trump for Roe being overturned? Didn't he take credit for it? Didn't you guys try to hang that around his neck? Yes. Yes. Yes. Roe came from SCOTUS. And SCOTUS is part of what government? Oh yeah, the federal government. So it was decentralized and Trump did it and the federal government no longer has control over it. 7 minutes ago, Hodad said: Not to mention that "decreasing our international military presence" by surrendering to the Taliban and undermining our alliances-- present and future--aren't exactly wins. As soon as he's able, he'll "reduce our military" support of Ukraine by gifting it to his dictator buddy. Biden surrendered to the Taliban and, according to you guys, we aren't in Ukraine at all. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 13 minutes ago, Hodad said: Are you going to pretend that he wasn't working with the Russians? Really? That's a matter of public record. GTFO. All he did was give some polling to a guy. And that wasn't against the law. But you are ignoring that our CIA set up the campaign so they could spy on them. Quote
West Posted November 14, 2024 Author Report Posted November 14, 2024 51 minutes ago, Hodad said: Sure, Dummy. Obama tricked Manafort into sharing information with his Russian spy buddy. He tricked Don Jr. and Kusher into taking formal meetings with Russian assets who claimed to be able to give them dirt on Clinton. And Obama definitely tricked Roger Stone into getting involved in the dunno of the Russian hacks to WikiLeaks No reason at all to investigate this ties. Just Obama the puppet master running the world. Obama was a sleeze bag politician. He weaponized Intel against an incoming administration You can cry foul all you like because Trump is likely to retaliate but they were warned to stop being sleeze balls Quote
West Posted November 14, 2024 Author Report Posted November 14, 2024 49 minutes ago, Hodad said: Do you ever read the articles you post? They suspected the campaign was colluding with Russia because the campaign manager was colluding with Russian intelligence. “They were making contacts and bumping Trump people going back to March 2016,” a source told the outlet. I'll give you one guess when Manafort joined the Trump campaign.🫣 The "bumping" was orchestrated by Brennan. And the dude he gave polling data to wasn't Russian intelligence. That's a lie and not substantiated by a multi million dollar Mueller investigation. What we do know is they tried to beef up the allegations by tying Jeff Sessions, a sitting Senator at the time, to the whole thing because he had a meeting in his official role as Senator with a foreign diplomat. Quote
robosmith Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 5 hours ago, West said: Donnie's AG pick, Matt Gaetz, signals that he may be out for that sweet, sweet revenge and retribution Gaetz appt is a JOKE. Purely to stoke Trump's ego and to discover who in the Senate will actually stand up to him. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 22 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: All he did was give some polling to a guy. And that wasn't against the law. This is what kills me. Not only is it not against the law, if they wanted information like that they could have easily paid for their own polling to be done. The polling companies will literally do it for anyone who asks. Ya pays the money you get the poll. So not only is it not secret or not illegal this this was readily available information that anybody could have acquired. All the guy was doing was bragging and suggesting that they would win the election. And somehow the democrats are trying to turn this into the illegal sale of state secrets or something. No more estate secret than giving them a weather forecast from the local paper Quote
robosmith Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 1 hour ago, West said: Lol.. The Obama administration orchestrated the connections to justify the spying. There was no active coordination between Donnie and Russia; Brennan coordinated the interactions then used it as fodder to peddle delusions on CNN. G Damn man, Manafort worked for Putin puppet Yanukovych and Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska. Do you even know who that is? LMAO Quote
robosmith Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 18 minutes ago, West said: Obama was a sleeze bag politician. He weaponized Intel against an incoming administration You can cry foul all you like because Trump is likely to retaliate but they were warned to stop being sleeze balls You Canucks have NO personal knowledge of the history of US politics and ONLY get on here posting the BULLSHIT that FOS LIES is feeding you. Without context, you're a dupe for anything they say. Quote
robosmith Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 13 minutes ago, West said: The "bumping" was orchestrated by Brennan. And the dude he gave polling data to wasn't Russian intelligence. That's a lie and not substantiated by a multi million dollar Mueller investigation. What we do know is they tried to beef up the allegations by tying Jeff Sessions, a sitting Senator at the time, to the whole thing because he had a meeting in his official role as Senator with a foreign diplomat. Manafort associate is Russian spy, report says Quote The report says Manafort associate Konstantin Kilimnik is a Russian intelligence officer who may have helped coordinate Russia's hack-and-leak operation. Quote
Hodad Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 9 hours ago, West said: And the dude he gave polling data to wasn't Russian intelligence. That's a lie and not substantiated by a multi million dollar Mueller investigation. Oh, really? The Republican-led senate select committee on intelligence conclusively reports that: "Manafort hired and worked increasingly closely with a Russian national, Konstantin Kilimnik. Kilimnik is a Russian intelligence officer." You disagree? You have secret information that the US intelligence agencies don't have? You should be an ally and help them out right away. 🙄 Quote
Hodad Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 10 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: All he did was give some polling to a guy. And that wasn't against the law. But you are ignoring that our CIA set up the campaign so they could spy on them. Internal polling and sensitive campaign strategy information. You know, just casual stuff delivered in extreme coordinated secrecy, one bro to another. Just a coincidence that it was exactly the information Russian intelligence needed to coordinate their interference and misinformation tactics in support of the Trump campaign. Totally normal, uninteresting stuff! And, please, cry me a river about US intelligence having the audacity to surveil people who were working with Russian intelligence. 🙄 1 Quote
myata Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 (edited) To apply the law equally, including a mafia boss is, as we know now, called "lawfare". Then he gets elected the president of the great nation and uses it to exact just revenge on his offenders. What other purpose does it serve, as we know, now? Welcome to 1984. In the window. Just like that. Edited November 14, 2024 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Hodad Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 10 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Didn't y'all blame Trump for Roe being overturned? Didn't he take credit for it? Didn't you guys try to hang that around his neck? Yes. Yes. Yes. Roe came from SCOTUS. And SCOTUS is part of what government? Oh yeah, the federal government. So it was decentralized and Trump did it and the federal government no longer has control over it. Biden surrendered to the Taliban and, according to you guys, we aren't in Ukraine at all. Again, the Trump admin literally signed the instrument of "surrender" and took out 90% of the troops. That's just the basic facts of the matter. Trump gave the country back to the Taliban. I'm sure you'll be cheering along with the other fools as the Trump administration starts "decentralizing" our other basic constitutional rights. Why should the FedGov be "regulating" freedom of the press? Freedom of religion? So crazy. 🙄 1 1 Quote
Deluge Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 19 hours ago, West said: One of the cogs in the Democrat lawfare machine is advising his clients to skip town and become ex pats The only revenge I would want is having them disbarred for malpractice. Quote
West Posted November 14, 2024 Author Report Posted November 14, 2024 8 minutes ago, Hodad said: Oh, really? The Republican-led senate select committee on intelligence conclusively reports that: "Manafort hired and worked increasingly closely with a Russian national, Konstantin Kilimnik. Kilimnik is a Russian intelligence officer." You disagree? You have secret information that the US intelligence agencies don't have? You should be an ally and help them out right away. 🙄 You are quoting the leftist propaganda. Mueller concluded that no American (including Manafort) coordinated with Russia. You are pretty pathetic to be peddling this conspiracy theory even after being thoroughly debunked by a report that cost taxpayers millions in the sad, pathetic little swindle and racketeering campaign of the US government.. Just now, Deluge said: The only revenge I would want is having them disbarred for malpractice. True. Also criminal prosecutions if they could prove they acted with malice. Apparently Judge Merchan was taking bribes from some reports. Which is a crime Quote
Hodad Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 1 minute ago, West said: You are quoting the leftist propaganda. Mueller concluded that no American (including Manafort) coordinated with Russia. You are pretty pathetic to be peddling this conspiracy theory even after being thoroughly debunked by a report that cost taxpayers millions in the sad, pathetic little swindle and racketeering campaign of the US government.. I'm quoting a Republican-led senate report, Dummy. And that is not what Mueller concluded. Hence why you are quoting nothing at all. And for the honest folks playing along, the Senate report followed the Mueller report by quite some time and includes additional information. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, West said: True. Also criminal prosecutions if they could prove they acted with malice. Apparently Judge Merchan was taking bribes from some reports. Which is a crime That's a good point. And it's not even revenge, really, it's defanging the pit vipers and punishing them to the full extent of the law. Quote
Deluge Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 18 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: This is what happened to Hans Litten, lawyer for Antifa and socialists in Germany prior to Hitler being anointed Chancellor for Berlin. For his work in exposing Nazi crimes, he was sent to concentration camps, and tortured for 5 years, before committing suicide in 1938. The people who brag about revenge on lawyers, hate democracy, and want their political enemies exterminated, like most fascist regimes. If more people could be like Hans Litten, and stand up to the MAGA loons, the World would be a better place. If we did that in the first place, Trump would be in jail, and the Democrats would have won this election. Well you know how to fix to that, don't you? Stop weaponizing the legal system to take down your political opponents. But since you a$$holes couldn't help yourselves, we will have to do the helping for you. Quote
West Posted November 14, 2024 Author Report Posted November 14, 2024 11 hours ago, Hodad said: Sure, Dummy. Obama tricked Manafort into sharing information with his Russian spy buddy. He tricked Don Jr. and Kusher into taking formal meetings with Russian assets who claimed to be able to give them dirt on Clinton. And Obama definitely tricked Roger Stone into getting involved in the dunno of the Russian hacks to WikiLeaks No reason at all to investigate this ties. Just Obama the puppet master running the world. Except there's no evidence the guy was a Russian spy. He was a business guy. Polling and census data is used for alot of things including marketing. Quote
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