A national conversation is the only way forward from here

[myata]

Half of the population of America is ready and preparing to embrace fascism. This is the score returned by the citizen's test, numbers don't lie and where's no way from or around them. If nothing changes, one of the administrations in the near future will be fascist not only in words and spirit but de facto. This is no prophesy but already the reality stretched in time. There's no way out of here through talking, wishful thinking and/or attempting to erase facts and records of what's transpired and what it means. None of that will work, and it would be almost exactly the path that unfolded all the way to the rise of fascism in several known examples.

The precedents are written. Every single lawyer of every career criminal, gang leader or mafia boss applying for the job will cite it now. A fact and the new normal. Done deal. Yes we did.

Even if any one individual could redeem themselves via a spotlessly perfect term in the office followed by more time to convince fellow citizens, unlikely as it seems, it would change very little because the precedents are set and written into the book of history. The blueprint can be followed over and again until one time it would unfold all the way to the well-known destination. No untalking and back-walking it now. Not possible. Records can be erased from human memory and our books but not one speck can be removed from the book of history. The reality will catch up as certainly as the time itself.

But he doesn't have to. He can try to play it out all the way - and what's left standing in it? Institutions, words won't stand to rising cults - we have records of history, not only the past but now, in America, now to prove and confirm it. Individuals who tried to stand on the principle can be removed and replaced by voiceless shadows, one by one. How many times has it played out? Words don't stand to cults - they are only scratches on sheets of starch once and after the citizens have left. And so, they won't.

The time for a national conversation about the future of democracy in America is now. Maybe it's too late already and if so, we would see that. But sleepwalking into a dead end of history would be such a terrible and utterly disappointing choice. And this time, we knew all: no excuses.

[Deluge]

5 minutes ago, myata said:

Half of the population of America is ready and preparing to embrace fascism. This is the score returned by the citizen's test, numbers don't lie and where's no way from or around them. If nothing changes, one of the administrations in the near future will be fascist not only in words and spirit but de facto. This is no prophesy but already the reality stretched in time. There's no way out of here through talking, wishful thinking and/or attempting to erase facts and records of what's transpired and what it means. None of that will work, and it would be almost exactly the path that unfolded all the way to the rise of fascism in several known examples.

The precedents are written. Every single lawyer of every career criminal, gang leader or mafia boss applying for the job will cite it now. A fact and the new normal. Done deal. Yes we did.

Even if any one individual could redeem themselves via a spotlessly perfect term in the office followed by more time to convince fellow citizens, unlikely as it seems, it would change very little because the precedents are set and written into the book of history. The blueprint can be followed over and again until one time it would unfold all the way to the well-known destination. No untalking and back-walking it now. Not possible. Records can be erased from human memory and our books but not one speck can be removed from the book of history. The reality will catch up as certainly as the time itself.

But he doesn't have to. He can try to play it out all the way - and what's left standing in it? Institutions, words won't stand to rising cults - we have records of history, not only the past but now, in America, now to prove and confirm it. Individuals who tried to stand on the principle can be removed and replaced by voiceless shadows, one by one. How many times has it played out? Words don't stand to cults - they are only scratches on sheets of starch once and after the citizens have left. And so, they won't.

The time for a national conversation about the future of democracy in America is now. Maybe it's too late already and if so, we would see that. But sleepwalking into a dead end of history would be such a terrible and utterly disappointing choice. And this time, we knew all: no excuses.

That's very insightful, myata, but it's also why you a$$holes lost. The majority of Americans got sick of your fascism, and now we are taking our country back. 

[gatomontes99]

What Deluge so eloquently stated, we had the conversation and you lost.

[myata]

Nothing new there, as anyone can see for themselves yet another time. And so, there will be no quick or easy ways out of here.

[Nationalist]

17 minutes ago, myata said:

Nothing new there, as anyone can see for themselves yet another time. And so, there will be no quick or easy ways out of here.

Lol...sauce for the goose myata.

Judge Merchand just further delayed sentencing.

It's over.

Have a nice day. *giggle*

[myata]

Exactly as observed:

One part will "honestly" pretend that nothing happened. Another will desperately clutch to the slipping illusion that another election and "better connection with the voters" would fix this deep and expanding decay quickly and miraculously. And all will be just like it was before. A happy fairy tale.

Now, anyone who's sane and awake can see the problem here. It's not going to fix itself or disappear one happy morning.

[Deluge]

33 minutes ago, myata said:

Nothing new there, as anyone can see for themselves yet another time. And so, there will be no quick or easy ways out of here.

It isn't easy for democrats - it never is. 

Poor poor, deceptive democrats...

[CouchPotato]

48 minutes ago, myata said:

Nothing new there,

• Fascism
• Mafia bosses can be president.
• We knew.

There really is nothing new here. It's the same post over and over and over, paraphrased. I expect we will be getting this post for about 4 years. I knew this would happen if Trump won. We all knew.

 

Edited November 12, 2024 by CouchPotato

[User]

National conversation?

We can't get you to have a real conversation on this forum for crying out loud. 

[myata]

So they knew something and still did it. That was the whole point. The last time it was all innocence, suffering and excuses. No such escapes here. Not a chance. They knew everything, and still chose it. There will be no easy happy walking out of here.

[User]

3 minutes ago, myata said:

So they knew something and still did it. That was the whole point. The last time it was all innocence, suffering and excuses. No such escapes here. Not a chance. They knew everything, and still chose it. There will be no easy happy walking out of here.

What are you talking about?

Who is this they? What was this something? What was the last time? What was the it they chose?

You have said absolutely nothing of any value here. 

[gatomontes99]

57 minutes ago, User said:

What are you talking about?

Who is this they? What was this something? What was the last time? What was the it they chose?

You have said absolutely nothing of any value here. 

You know, they...them. it's all a conspiracy man.

[Legato]

2 hours ago, myata said:

Half of the population of America is ready and preparing to embrace fascism. This is the score returned by the citizen's test, numbers don't lie and where's no way from or around them. If nothing changes, one of the administrations in the near future will be fascist not only in words and spirit but de facto. This is no prophesy but already the reality stretched in time. There's no way out of here through talking, wishful thinking and/or attempting to erase facts and records of what's transpired and what it means. None of that will work, and it would be almost exactly the path that unfolded all the way to the rise of fascism in several known examples.

The precedents are written. Every single lawyer of every career criminal, gang leader or mafia boss applying for the job will cite it now. A fact and the new normal. Done deal. Yes we did.

Even if any one individual could redeem themselves via a spotlessly perfect term in the office followed by more time to convince fellow citizens, unlikely as it seems, it would change very little because the precedents are set and written into the book of history. The blueprint can be followed over and again until one time it would unfold all the way to the well-known destination. No untalking and back-walking it now. Not possible. Records can be erased from human memory and our books but not one speck can be removed from the book of history. The reality will catch up as certainly as the time itself.

But he doesn't have to. He can try to play it out all the way - and what's left standing in it? Institutions, words won't stand to rising cults - we have records of history, not only the past but now, in America, now to prove and confirm it. Individuals who tried to stand on the principle can be removed and replaced by voiceless shadows, one by one. How many times has it played out? Words don't stand to cults - they are only scratches on sheets of starch once and after the citizens have left. And so, they won't.

The time for a national conversation about the future of democracy in America is now. Maybe it's too late already and if so, we would see that. But sleepwalking into a dead end of history would be such a terrible and utterly disappointing choice. And this time, we knew all: no excuses.

Cmon myata try intelligible English for once, I passed you post through a universal translator and out came

Orange Man Bad/πx∞∬Rivers of Babylon∬

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, myata said:

Half of the population of America is ready and preparing to embrace fascism.

Holy dumbfacks, Batman. Are you just here to make robo look like an intellectual? 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, myata said:

So they knew something and still did it. That was the whole point. The last time it was all innocence, suffering and excuses. No such escapes here. Not a chance. They knew everything, and still chose it. There will be no easy happy walking out of here.

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hey guys, I think we found the speechwriter for kamala harris!!!

[impartialobserver]

A national conversation.. not really possible. The internet allows folks to be either anonymous (and therefore keyboard warriors) or mostly shielded from responses. I treaded the defecation-filled waters of facebook comments recently. What a sad commentary on humanity. 

[myata]

48 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

I treaded the defecation-filled waters of facebook comments recently. What a sad commentary on humanity. 

As usual we brought it upon ourselves opening the crapmegaloads of pseudo-information and presuming - without any reasonable substance really, that the democracy will stand and hold whatever we throw at it. Just because we want it. Nope. The reality doesn't work this way, as we're discovering all over and yet again.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, myata said:

As usual we brought it upon ourselves opening the crapmegaloads of pseudo-information and presuming - without any reasonable substance really, that the democracy will stand and hold whatever we throw at it. Just because we want it. Nope. The reality doesn't work this way, as we're discovering all over and yet again.

I'm absolutely positive that you have no idea how reality works. I'm mildly amazed you can even get your computer on

[User]

10 minutes ago, myata said:

As usual we brought it upon ourselves opening the crapmegaloads of pseudo-information and presuming - without any reasonable substance really, that the democracy will stand and hold whatever we throw at it. Just because we want it. Nope. The reality doesn't work this way, as we're discovering all over and yet again.

Brought what upon ourselves?

Want what?

You are like a random chatbot designed to speak in meaningless drivel. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

A national conversation.. not really possible. The internet allows folks to be either anonymous (and therefore keyboard warriors) or mostly shielded from responses. I treaded the defecation-filled waters of facebook comments recently. What a sad commentary on humanity. 

Oh but it is.  There's no public option for social media but it's quite easy to do when people want it.  Nonimity can be mandated, with some limited capacity for anonymous suggestions and/or whistle blowing.  The goal should be to mimic the conditions that allow for positive democratic engagement.

[User]

10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Nonimity can be mandated

Who can mandate "nonimity?"

That is not a word. 

I presume you mean that people are mandated to identify as who they are. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

34 minutes ago, User said:

Who can mandate "nonimity?"

That is not a word. 

I presume you mean that people are mandated to identify as who they are. 

 

Nonimous participants, yes.

[herbie]

5 hours ago, Deluge said:

That's very insightful, myata, but it's also why you a$$holes lost. The majority of Americans got sick of your fascism, and now we are taking our country back. 

another I know you are but what am I  from a MAGA m0ron.

An example of why the majority of voters went for the guy who went out of his way to give them every reason not to. They're more intellectually crippled than Trump is.

[User]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Nonimous participants, yes.

I think you mean onymous. 

That aside, exactly who is it you think can mandate this?

I ask because anonymous speech is one of the foundations of free speech in America and is protected by the First Amendment. 

 

[Deluge]

11 minutes ago, herbie said:

another I know you are but what am I  from a MAGA m0ron.

An example of why the majority of voters went for the guy who went out of his way to give them every reason not to. They're more intellectually crippled than Trump is.

herpes still thinks Americans are sweet on high prices and illegal aliens.  

herpes is a dumbass.