Aristides Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/musk-election-giveaways-legal-questions-1.7357898 This from the people who thought handing out bottled water to people lined up for the polling places was election interference. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 1 hour ago, Aristides said: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/musk-election-giveaways-legal-questions-1.7357898 This from the people who thought handing out bottled water to people lined up for the polling places was election interference. From your cite: Quote It is a federal crime to pay people with the intention of inducing or rewarding them to cast a vote or to get registered, an offence punishable by prison time. The prohibition covers not only monetary expenditures, but also anything of monetary value like liquor or lottery chances, a Justice Department election-crimes manual says. Experts divided Legal experts are divided on whether the giveaway violates federal laws. "There is certainly an argument that this falls within the scope of a federal prohibition on paying a person to vote or register to vote," said Daniel Weiner of the left-leaning Brennan Center for Justice. "This is part of a pattern of him skating up to the edge of election laws that we've seen in the past several weeks." Musk skirting, if not breaking, the law just like Trump has done for DECADES. 🤮 Of course, he can afford very good lawyers and may need them. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 The money was a lottery for those in attendance at a rally. It had nothing to do with voting or registering to vote. Unlike Democrats that have paid people to register to vote in the past. Why did they do that? Because ballots, not voters, win elections. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
User Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 1 hour ago, Aristides said: This from the people who thought handing out bottled water to people lined up for the polling places was election interference. It literally is. You have a group of people who are isolated in a location they have to be in, in order to vote. They are a captive audience. Now you have political campaigns interacting with those people as they are going in to cast their votes, at the polling location, engaged in electioneering. They are not just innocent people handing out bottles of water. I swear, you guys will try to come up with any lame comparison and excuse, no matter how outlandishly absurd it is. 20 minutes ago, robosmith said: Musk skirting, if not breaking, the law just like Trump has done for DECADES. 🤮 Of course, he can afford very good lawyers and may need them. So... where is he doing the things that are against the law you cited? Quote
Nationalist Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 24 minutes ago, robosmith said: From your cite: Musk skirting, if not breaking, the law just like Trump has done for DECADES. 🤮 Of course, he can afford very good lawyers and may need them. Indeed I think he is skirting the law. But that's not provable. So... Ahhh...you don't like it when Republicans play your own tricks on you. Lol...tough. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Rebound Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 27 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: The money was a lottery for those in attendance at a rally. It had nothing to do with voting or registering to vote. Unlike Democrats that have paid people to register to vote in the past. Why did they do that? Because ballots, not voters, win elections. It is legal to pay someone to get others to register, but it is a Federal crime to pay someone to register to vote or to vote. 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
herbie Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 Don't you understand that Republicans are not bound by the law is part of their fundamental platform? 1 Quote
Black Dog Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: The money was a lottery for those in attendance at a rally. It had nothing to do with voting or registering to vote. Unlike Democrats that have paid people to register to vote in the past. Why did they do that? Because ballots, not voters, win elections. It's only open to swing state voters and you have to register to vote to be eligible, what the f*ck do you think this is about dumb. dumb. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted October 21, 2024 Author Report Posted October 21, 2024 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: The money was a lottery for those in attendance at a rally. It had nothing to do with voting or registering to vote. Unlike Democrats that have paid people to register to vote in the past. Why did they do that? Because ballots, not voters, win elections. No, it's to join Musks America PAC. It was given away at a rally. Quote
robosmith Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Indeed I think he is skirting the law. But that's not provable. So... Ahhh...you don't like it when Republicans play your own tricks on you. Lol...tough. You're LYING. I have no "tricks" wrt elections. Duh 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: The money was a lottery for those in attendance at a rally. It had nothing to do with voting or registering to vote. Unlike Democrats that have paid people to register to vote in the past. Why did they do that? Because ballots, not voters, win elections. Sure. Musk is just throwing away $MILLIONS for no reason. NOT. 1 Quote
West Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: The money was a lottery for those in attendance at a rally. It had nothing to do with voting or registering to vote. Unlike Democrats that have paid people to register to vote in the past. Why did they do that? Because ballots, not voters, win elections. You got entered in a contest to sign a petition. Had nothing to do with voter registration and nothing to do with who you decided to vote for.. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 21, 2024 Report Posted October 21, 2024 25 minutes ago, robosmith said: You're LYING. I have no "tricks" wrt elections. Duh Sure. Musk is just throwing away $MILLIONS for no reason. NOT. Lol... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Aristides Posted October 22, 2024 Author Report Posted October 22, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, West said: You got entered in a contest to sign a petition. Had nothing to do with voter registration and nothing to do with who you decided to vote for.. You had to sign on to his PAC to be entered in the contest. How else would they know who was entered. Edited October 22, 2024 by Aristides Quote
robosmith Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 WaPo: Former GOP lawmakers, officials call on AG Garland to investigate Musk WaPo (archived: https://archive.ph/5tTQL ) - Former GOP lawmakers, officials call on AG Garland to investigate Musk Quote The Justice Department confirmed that Attorney General Merrick Garland got the letter but declined to say whether the agency is investigating Musk or his PAC. Former Republican lawmakers, advisers and Justice Department officials have called on Attorney General Merrick Garland to investigate tech billionaire Elon Musk for awarding cash prizes to voters in swing states if they sign his political organization’s petition, according to a letter obtained by The Washington Post and sent to Garland on Monday. The letter argues that the large prizes set up by Musk, a vocal supporter of Republican nominee Donald Trump, violate federal voting laws that prohibit paying people to register to vote. Musk announced Saturday that his political group, America PAC, would use a lottery to award $1 million each day until the election to a registered voter who signs a petition saying they support free speech and the right to bear arms. Only voters registered in seven swing states — including Pennsylvania, Georgia and Nevada — are eligible for the prizes. The former officials who signed the letter to Garland and Pennsylvania Attorney General Michelle Henry argue that Musk’s petition is disguising a voter drive in which he essentially bribes people to register. Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro (D) said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday that Musk should be investigated and that his ploy raises “serious questions.” Multiple legal experts have also expressed concern, although some say his focus on the First and Second Amendments could keep him on the right side of the law Even Republicans know IT'S ILLEGAL. 💡 Quote
West Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 1 hour ago, Aristides said: You had to sign on to his PAC to be entered in the contest. How else would they know who was entered. No, you signed a petition supporting the constitution. Theoretically Democrats could support the constitution but not likely I will admit 1 1 Quote
Aristides Posted October 22, 2024 Author Report Posted October 22, 2024 Meanwhile Donny goes on about Arnold Palmers junk. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 6 hours ago, Aristides said: No, it's to join Musks America PAC. It was given away at a rally. Either way, it wasn't to vote or to register to vote. 2 hours ago, robosmith said: WaPo: Former GOP lawmakers, officials call on AG Garland to investigate Musk WaPo (archived: https://archive.ph/5tTQL ) - Former GOP lawmakers, officials call on AG Garland to investigate Musk Even Republicans know IT'S ILLEGAL. 💡 There is nothing illegal about paying someone to sign a petition to my knowledge. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
robosmith Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Either way, it wasn't to vote or to register to vote. There is nothing illegal about paying someone to sign a petition to my knowledge. They had to REGISTER AND sign the meaningless petition to be eligible. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 5 hours ago, robosmith said: They had to REGISTER AND sign the meaningless petition to be eligible. No they didn't. They had to sign the petition. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
gatomontes99 Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 14 hours ago, Rebound said: It is legal to pay someone to get others to register, but it is a Federal crime to pay someone to register to vote or to vote. You mean like ACORN did? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/18-former-acorn-workers-have-been-convicted-or-admitted-guilt-in-election-fraud Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Rebound Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: You mean like ACORN did? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/18-former-acorn-workers-have-been-convicted-or-admitted-guilt-in-election-fraud That’s the problem when you pay people to register voters… they become incentivized to create fake registrations. And… what happened with ACORN? It’s gone. So you can’t say that this sort of thing is bad and then decide it’s acceptable. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Deluge Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 17 hours ago, Aristides said: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/musk-election-giveaways-legal-questions-1.7357898 This from the people who thought handing out bottled water to people lined up for the polling places was election interference. Who thought that? Quote
Nationalist Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 1 hour ago, Rebound said: That’s the problem when you pay people to register voters… they become incentivized to create fake registrations. And… what happened with ACORN? It’s gone. So you can’t say that this sort of thing is bad and then decide it’s acceptable. Lol...it was Libbies who thought this and other crap was just fine when it was stacked for their candidate. You dumb fcks...you wanted to play hardball...welcome to hardball. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
NAME REMOVED Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 This should be illegal, and if there was any accountability left in the US justice system, Musk would be boarding a place, with a one way ticket to South Africa. Quote
Black Dog Posted October 22, 2024 Report Posted October 22, 2024 Can you imagine if George Soros was cutting cheques for people to vote Harris? All the right wingers here would be moaning and demanding he get put in a concentration camp. 1 Quote
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