She cried for Jasper burning, now starts a campaign to remove carbon emission caps

[cougar]

Typical of politicians, Alberta premiere Danielle Smith does not know her ins from outs.

Yesterday crying for losing Jasper, AB ; today starting a campaign to remove provincial emission caps so the oil and gas industry can continue to pollute the atmosphere, waters and soils further changing the planet's climate.

It is in line with Trumps assertion that rising ocean levels would only create more beachfront property.

Politicians elected are always the dumbest of the dumb, but with big mouths that can swallow an elephant alive.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-oil-and-gas-emissions-cap-danielle-smith-1.7352333

Edited October 16, 2024 by cougar

[ExFlyer]

6 hours ago, cougar said:

Typical of politicians, Alberta premiere Danielle Smith does not know her ins from outs.

Yesterday crying for losing Jasper, AB ; today starting a campaign to remove provincial emission caps so the oil and gas industry can continue to pollute the atmosphere, waters and soils further changing the planet's climate.

It is in line with Trumps assertion that rising ocean levels would only create more beachfront property.

Politicians elected are always the dumbest of the dumb, but with big mouths that can swallow an elephant alive.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-oil-and-gas-emissions-cap-danielle-smith-1.7352333

"Lightning was witnessed at the time the fires were reported. An investigation by the Canadian Forest Service confirmed the fires were started by lightning. "

"Wildfires are sometimes caused by people who leave campfires unattended, burn debris or dispose of lit cigarettes or matches carelessly, or set fires deliberately, while the remaining fires are started by lightning strikes"

Are you saying eliminating the carbon tax will enhance lightning strikes or make people stop setting them?

[Legato]

11 hours ago, cougar said:

Typical of politicians, Alberta premiere Danielle Smith does not know her ins from outs.

Yesterday crying for losing Jasper, AB ; today starting a campaign to remove provincial emission caps so the oil and gas industry can continue to pollute the atmosphere, waters and soils further changing the planet's climate.

It is in line with Trumps assertion that rising ocean levels would only create more beachfront property.

Politicians elected are always the dumbest of the dumb, but with big mouths that can swallow an elephant alive.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-oil-and-gas-emissions-cap-danielle-smith-1.7352333

So if we tax the weather, it will get gooder?

[PIK]

Actually Trudeau was warned and was told we need some controlled burns and cleaning in jasper.  They wouldn't do it,because burning would make them look bad.

[Venandi]

6 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

"Lightning was witnessed at the time the fires were reported. An investigation by the Canadian Forest Service confirmed the fires were started by lightning. "

"Wildfires are sometimes caused by people who leave campfires unattended, burn debris or dispose of lit cigarettes or matches carelessly, or set fires deliberately, while the remaining fires are started by lightning strikes"

Are you saying eliminating the carbon tax will enhance lightning strikes or make people stop setting them?

The orientation of valleys vs prevailing winds and fuel loading is huge part of the situation estimate as well (Mommy, why are the trees red?). 

Forestry management may be a science but common sense has merit as well. People who are routinely "out on the land" will often tell you that they're surprised there aren't more forrest fires. In many cases, like Jasper, the threat assessment comes easy and the after action question is WTF did you think was going to happen?

Attributing it all to global warming is a deflection that provides an easy out and a shoulder shrug instead of accountability and lessons learned.

That's not to say it doesn't exist either, but combine it with management that doesn't exist and responsibility never acknowledged or assumed and you have a big dog with sharp teeth waiting for the right conditions to bite your a$$. 

Land doesn't need to be managed... unless you want to live there.

 

 

Edited October 16, 2024 by Venandi

[taxme]

13 hours ago, cougar said:

Typical of politicians, Alberta premiere Danielle Smith does not know her ins from outs.

Yesterday crying for losing Jasper, AB ; today starting a campaign to remove provincial emission caps so the oil and gas industry can continue to pollute the atmosphere, waters and soils further changing the planet's climate.

It is in line with Trumps assertion that rising ocean levels would only create more beachfront property.

Politicians elected are always the dumbest of the dumb, but with big mouths that can swallow an elephant alive.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-oil-and-gas-emissions-cap-danielle-smith-1.7352333

Applause for conservative Smith. The one and only politician in Canada that is willing to stand up to the globalist climate crisis imbeciles, like you, that will believe anything that is told to them by the left wing liberal globalist controlled MSM. 

Have imbeciles like you not have enough of the many lies that are told to you like the covid lie and hoax? Geez, what makes people like you so bloody stoopid? I can only assume that you are no doubt a left wing liberal and that it just comes natural to you to talk nonsense and stupid. 

Can you prove to me that there is a climate crisis and where or how is it affecting you in any way? Go ahead, make you day. liberal. 🤗

1 hour ago, Legato said:

So if we tax the weather, it will get gooder?

Taxes will always make things gooder. LOL. 

[Five of swords]

So according to you, anyone who wants to use oil to produce energy just wants the whole world to burn down. Is that in fact what you are saying? I'm not trying a ridiculous strawman or anything but it does in fact seem like the gist of your argument. 

[herbie]

Peanut gallery clammers how we should praise Regressives and anti-environment leaders.

I even like the "lightning started it, so how can you blame the weather" bit.

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

I even like the "lightning started it, so how can you blame the weather" bit.

People also blamed VOLCANOES for climate change on here...

[cougar]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Can you prove to me that there is a climate crisis and where or how is it affecting you in any way?

If you haven't figured this out yet, I can't help you.

You can drown in the next flood or burn in the next fire and while at it, you can blame it on what you want.  I do not care.

[cougar]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

So according to you, anyone who wants to use oil to produce energy just wants the whole world to burn down. Is that in fact what you are saying? I'm not trying a ridiculous strawman or anything but it does in fact seem like the gist of your argument. 

anyone who wants to INCREASE THE use oil to produce energy.

Yes, anyone who believes we should continue to increase production and exports is an imbecile like taxme.

 

[Five of swords]

13 minutes ago, cougar said:

anyone who wants to INCREASE THE use oil to produce energy.

Yes, anyone who believes we should continue to increase production and exports is an imbecile like taxme.

 

...because increasing oil production will cause every city to burst into flames. Right?

[cougar]

31 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

...because increasing oil production will cause every city to burst into flames. Right?

or get flooded, that's right, or wiped out by a tornado, or sink into the ocean.....you are starting to get the idea.

[Five of swords]

4 minutes ago, cougar said:

or get flooded, that's right, or wiped out by a tornado, or sink into the ocean.....you are starting to get the idea.

You think that would just happen to every city on earth...

[Legato]

1 hour ago, cougar said:

anyone who wants to INCREASE THE use oil to produce energy.

Yes, anyone who believes we should continue to increase production and exports is an imbecile like taxme.

 

Would your alternative be Flying Unicorns or Seven League boots? Although Unicorns couldn't pass over territory that's marked "Here Be Dragons".

[cougar]

30 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

You think that would just happen to every city on earth...

You ask me how Russian roulette works ??

 

 

16 minutes ago, Legato said:

Would your alternative be Flying Unicorns or Seven League boots? Although Unicorns couldn't pass over territory that's marked "Here Be Dragons".

It doesn't take flying unicorns to realize endless growth is impossible.

[Five of swords]

1 minute ago, cougar said:

You ask me how Russian roulette works ??

 

 

So I guess you mean not literally every city? But that is the only way to make the logic work. If some cities survive it makes perfect sense for you to hope your own city survives...right? Lol.

 

Natural disasters are older than the industrial revolution. This particular 'Russian roulette' has always been true.

[Legato]

16 minutes ago, cougar said:

You ask me how Russian roulette works ??

 

 

It doesn't take flying unicorns to realize endless growth is impossible.

You have obviously never spoken to a Unicorn. Like all living things they need an endless supply of Co2 to grow.

[cougar]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

Natural disasters are older than the industrial revolution. This particular 'Russian roulette' has always been true.

Except nature started it with one bullet in the chamber and we keep adding bullets.

[Five of swords]

23 minutes ago, cougar said:

Except nature started it with one bullet in the chamber and we keep adding bullets.

Dude...even if that were true it still shows zero hypocrisy on her part. She can absolitrly still hope jasper is not one of the cities bursting into flames. What % of cities does the ipcc predict will be destroyed by natural disaster? Lol...cause not even your own experts are predicting such a thing. This is all in your own head.

[herbie]

4 hours ago, Five of swords said:

..because increasing oil production will cause every city to burst into flames. Right?

So if your house ever catches fire pouring gasoline on it will help, right?

[blackbird]

Carbon emission caps will do nothing to stop forest fires or anything else except make millions of people poorer.

[Five of swords]

52 minutes ago, herbie said:

So if your house ever catches fire pouring gasoline on it will help, right?

No, it won't. Do you think this politician thinks it would?

34 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Carbon emission caps will do nothing to stop forest fires or anything else except make millions of people poorer.

Actually forest fires are more frequent if there is a higher oxygen content in the atmosphere. So it does something.

[cougar]

54 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Carbon emission caps will do nothing to stop forest fires or anything else except make millions of people poorer.

I was waiting for you to wade into this debate and start shining 😁

19 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Actually forest fires are more frequent if there is a higher oxygen content in the atmosphere. So it does something.

Excellent logic!    Let's get rid of oxygen and leave only CO2 to prevent fires from spreading.

You, blackbird and taxme have some awesome ideas that will make any politician envious.  🤣

[Nefarious Banana]

Not directly on topic . . . The flagship American national park is Yellowstone, the flagship Canadian national park is probably Banff/Jasper.  Two big parks with roughly the same terrain.  The Americans have a policy of 'let it burn' in their beautiful Yellowstone.  The big fires of the early '90's were left to burn, with the only fire-fight to keep Yellowstone Lodge from burning.  The forest fire is the ultimate end of the forest cycle.  Yellowstone flourished with new growth within a year ... fireweed being the colonizer, pine and spruce following quickly. Beutiful results, vibrant and good for the game animals.

Canada on the other hand has a policy of lighting their hair on fire if a forest fire starts in their parks.  As a result, the build-up of ground fuel and  dying standing timber is a bomb waiting to happen.  Fire storm, burnt damaged earth, devastation that takes years to 'green-up' again.