Another Day in the USA

[Aristides]

Where you never know if your kid is going to come home from school alive.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/georgia-apalachee-school-shooting-live-updates-rcna169579

[gatomontes99]

Too bad we live in a society that doesn't value life.

[WestCanMan]

That's what happens in a country where the healthy people are forced to participate in the delusions of the mentally unhealthy. 

[Black Dog]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

That's what happens in a country where the healthy people are forced to participate in the delusions of the mentally unhealthy. 

You're talking about gun nuts here, right?

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

You're talking about gun nuts here, right?

Who ever asked you to participate in the delusions of "gun nuts"?

[Black Dog]

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Who ever asked you to participate in the delusions of "gun nuts"?

I'm Canadian so it's not an issue for me personally. But for Americans the answer to your question is "the gun lobby, GOP legislators and the Supreme Court." Because of their efforts to accommodate the delusions of wannabe Dirty Harrys, normal people, including kids, must live their lives in the shadow of the constant threat of gun violence.

Edited September 4 by Black Dog

[Nationalist]

It's something I've debated Americans for years. Fact is, they love their guns and their constitution.

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

That's what happens in a country where the healthy people are forced to participate in the delusions of the mentally unhealthy. 

Well, partly. I honestly think that is a symptom of the left telling people that right and wrong are relative.

[gatomontes99]

53 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

I'm Canadian so it's not an issue for me personally. But for Americans the answer to your question is "the gun lobby, GOP legislators and the Supreme Court." Because of their efforts to accommodate the delusions of wannabe Dirty Harrys, normal people, including kids, must live their lives in the shadow of the constant threat of gun violence.

And because you guys gave up your gun rights you get things like this:

Banks Have Begun Freezing Accounts Linked to Trucker Protest

The cost of freedom isn't just money, it is also personal responsibility. Our society has given up all pretense to being responsible in favor of being a victim for everything. This evil Lil sh1t probably thinks he was justified because he was wronged.

[West]

Must be election season with the whackos starting to shoot up schools again so that they can talk about stealing guns from law abiding citizens 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Where you never know if your kid is going to come home from school alive.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/georgia-apalachee-school-shooting-live-updates-rcna169579

It's everywhere these days, not just the us. 

A 3rd child dies after the stabbing rampage at a dance class in England : NPR

Stabbing rampage at a freakin' dance class. 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

I'm Canadian so it's not an issue for me personally. But for Americans the answer to your question is "the gun lobby, GOP legislators and the Supreme Court." Because of their efforts to accommodate the delusions of wannabe Dirty Harrys, normal people, including kids, must live their lives in the shadow of the constant threat of gun violence.

well none of that's true, other than possibly you being a Canadian of course  

Biggest problem with guns in the states is democrats and their hatred of them. They won't consider anything or any solution or any resolution that doesn't involve taking guns away from people in the end. And because of that no possible solution can be considered by those who believe in the right to carry firearms, all they do is dig in their heels against the democrats desire to disarm them and leave them with no firearms.

If the democrats would put that aside and sit down and talk rationally and reasonably about how to address the violence and there are a number of solutions which would make a big difference. But until that happens and as long as democrats are thrilled and excited when they can prop up a new body and dance around with it to virtue signal nothing is going to change

[Black Dog]

17 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

And because you guys gave up your gun rights you get things like this:

Banks Have Begun Freezing Accounts Linked to Trucker Protest

Thanks for making my point that you people are delusional. If you're not fantasizing about playing Dirty Harry, you're fantasizing about overthrowing the government while here in the real world, people by the thousands have their lives ended or irrevocably altered by the virtually unchecked proliferation of firearms every single day. What are your fantasies of revolution to them?

 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

I'm Canadian so it's not an issue for me personally. But for Americans the answer to your question is "the gun lobby, GOP legislators and the Supreme Court." Because of their efforts to accommodate the delusions of wannabe Dirty Harrys, normal people, including kids, must live their lives in the shadow of the constant threat of gun violence.

Yeah, there's no such things as what you're describing.

The right of black people to use guns to defend their homes from the KKK was no joke. 

Also, gun rights are enshrined in the constitution for a reason. The gov't has an entirely different outlook on governing 330M people with guns vs 330M unarmed people. 

[Black Dog]

15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

well none of that's true, other than possibly you being a Canadian of course  

Biggest problem with guns in the states is democrats and their hatred of them. They won't consider anything or any solution or any resolution that doesn't involve taking guns away from people in the end. And because of that no possible solution can be considered by those who believe in the right to carry firearms, all they do is dig in their heels against the democrats desire to disarm them and leave them with no firearms.

If the democrats would put that aside and sit down and talk rationally and reasonably about how to address the violence and there are a number of solutions which would make a big difference. But until that happens and as long as democrats are thrilled and excited when they can prop up a new body and dance around with it to virtue signal nothing is going to change

This is another great example of what happens when your brain is completely scrambled by partisan propaganda and when your only motivation is to "own the libs". There's no factual basis for this claim or any of the others here, no citations, no evidence. Just a failed abortion spouting his dumb as dogshit opinion.

Edited September 4 by Black Dog

[WestCanMan]

41 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Well, partly. I honestly think that is a symptom of the left telling people that right and wrong are relative.

TBH right and wrong is relative.

Allowing situational ethics to play a role in your decision-making isn't the same as being immoral. 

Neither the left, nor the holiest in any of the Abrahamic faiths, nor any supporter of the US Constitution can deny that, because:

1. on the left you have to have a soft spot in your heart for violent rioters (Michelle Obama and Kamala Harris even said so) 
2. If God tells you to sacrifice your child then it's 'ok'. 
3. The US constitution allows for war, and for the violent defence of your person and/or property should the need arise. 

It's just pure hypocrisy and virtue-signalling for anyone to pretend that they would refrain from taking necessary action to prevent unacceptable consequences. Anyone dumb enough to actually follow through on that BS is stupid. 

[Hodad]

The people of Winder better clear space in their attics for all the Republican "thoughts and prayers" while we continue to do nothing to address access to guns.

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

well none of that's true, other than possibly you being a Canadian of course  

Biggest problem with guns in the states is democrats and their hatred of them. They won't consider anything or any solution or any resolution that doesn't involve taking guns away from people in the end. And because of that no possible solution can be considered by those who believe in the right to carry firearms, all they do is dig in their heels against the democrats desire to disarm them and leave them with no firearms.

If the democrats would put that aside and sit down and talk rationally and reasonably about how to address the violence and there are a number of solutions which would make a big difference. But until that happens and as long as democrats are thrilled and excited when they can prop up a new body and dance around with it to virtue signal nothing is going to change

The dummy that you're replying to is pro-censorship and entirely comfortable with fascism. The thought of an unarmed populace at the mercy of Kamala, Justaboy et al is a-ok in his mind.

I can promise you that hypocrite would lose his mind if the NYTimes was banned from X for telling the truth about something. His opinion would go from "Whatever" to "THIS IS ONLY COMPARABLE TO 911!" in a heartbeat.  

[Black Dog]

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Yeah, there's no such things as what you're describing.

Are you gonna pretend the u.s. doesn't have a serious issue with gun violence that is directly connected to its culture and the availability of firearms?

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The right of black people to use guns to defend their homes from the KKK was no joke. 

Using Black people as a props to defend gun nuttery is particularly gross when one remembers that for a good chunk of U.S. history, including the periods where the KKK was most active, Black people did not have the right to bear arms and the proliferation of guns has had a disproportionately negative impact on the Black community.

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Also, gun rights are enshrined in the constitution for a reason. The gov't has an entirely different outlook on governing 330M people with guns vs 330M unarmed people. 

Modern interpretations of the 2nd Amendment that have shaped today's gun laws (or lack thereof) are mostly made up mumbo jumbo disconnected from the text of the constitution and intent of its framers.

[Nationalist]

32 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Thanks for making my point that you people are delusional. If you're not fantasizing about playing Dirty Harry, you're fantasizing about overthrowing the government while here in the real world, people by the thousands have their lives ended or irrevocably altered by the virtually unchecked proliferation of firearms every single day. What are your fantasies of revolution to them?

 

Pup...I got news for ya.

You do not live in the real world.

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Are you gonna pretend the u.s. doesn't have a serious issue with gun violence that is directly connected to its culture and the availability of firearms?

There is a serious problem with gun violence, but you're not addressing it:

1. rifles only account for a tiny fraction of gun deaths
2. rifles only account for a small percent of mass shootings
3. the guns most likely to cause death are protected by Dem laws, ie, the guns being carried in the streets by criminals
4. the majority of people who use guns to kill people would have been prevented from doing so if not for the Demis' soft-on-crime legislation. 

Dems make a huge stink about rifles because rifles are what protects America from fascists.

If they really cared about young Americans they'd spend 100x as much time and energy fighting Fentanyl (100,000 deaths/year), handguns (20x as many killings/year as rifles), and known violent criminals (probably 20,000x more likely to commit murder as a licensed gun-owner) as they do worrying about ARs. 

[CdnFox]

26 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

This is another great example of what happens when your brain is completely scrambled by partisan propaganda and when your only motivation is to "own the libs".

LOL - well THAT is another great exmaple of you Realizing you're wrong but not wanting to admit it so lashing out with childish accusations  

It's an absolutely factually accurate statement. This is come up many times. There has been a school shooting. Democrats will come out and say why we need to ban guns. They will not present any other options. Gun owners will come out and say that it wasn't gun ownership that was the problem but rather that this person was insane or something else that will inevitably be accurate. To which the democrats will reply they are baby killers

Circle the wagons, the democrats will flail their arms about wailing about how terrible the world is and won't somebody think of the children and nothing will get better. That is what happens every single time

29 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

There's no factual basis for this claim or any of the others here

It is 100 percent factual. I've posted Prof Gary Mauser's works here a number of times showing research proving gun laws make no difference, etc (hes canadian btw, lived in the states and in France for a bit but mostly in canada). Easy to look it up if you missed it. We've shown these responses many times during these events here in the past. 

You yourself are proof.  Was your first reaction to say "oh, what other things should we consider that might make a difference'?  Or maybe "it may seem that way but i really would like to explore options"  or even "how can we stop these events"? 

Nope. Your very first response was to attack your political opponents. And when i pointed out that dems attacking political opponents was the problem your response was "you a bad person"

So there you go. You're living proof  

 

The dems make intelligent conversations that lead to resolutions with regards to gun violence impossible. And by extension discussions about resolving ANY violence becomes impossible. 

 

[gatomontes99]

42 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Thanks for making my point that you people are delusional. If you're not fantasizing about playing Dirty Harry, you're fantasizing about overthrowing the government while here in the real world, people by the thousands have their lives ended or irrevocably altered by the virtually unchecked proliferation of firearms every single day. What are your fantasies of revolution to them?

 

"Give me liberty or give me death."

 

I'll take the consequences of being free over the certainty of tyranny any day and twice on Sunday.

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Are you gonna pretend the u.s. doesn't have a serious issue with gun violence that is directly connected to its culture and the availability of firearms?

The facts say NOT the availability of firearms. That plays almost no role if you follow the science.  As to 'culture'  it depends what  you mean by that. We have pretty much the same culture the us does and we are far more successful at preventing this kind of thing (excluding pro crime violence anyway). 

20 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Using Black people as a props to defend gun nuttery is particularly gross when one remembers that for a good chunk of U.S. history, including the periods where the KKK was most active, Black people did not have the right to bear arms and the proliferation of guns has had a disproportionately negative impact on the Black community.

you Literally just shot your own point in the foot. You pointed out what happens when people don't have firearms rights. And you did it using black people strangely enough. As you just proved, if you don't have the right to arm yourself you are vulnerable as we saw with the black people that you mentioned.

Maybe don't argue other people's points for them if you're trying to refute them?

22 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Modern interpretations of the 2nd Amendment that have shaped today's gun laws (or lack thereof) are mostly made up mumbo jumbo disconnected from the text of the constitution and intent of its framers.

Is specifically says that the right to own arms shall not be infringed    That's about as NON mumbo jumbo as it gets   

Don't like the constitution? Amend it. 

[User]

I don't understand how this keeps happening. These schools are gun free zones. 

Did they not have enough signs showing no guns? Maybe the bad person doing the shooting didn't see them?