DUI_Offender Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 A record number of South Asians has come too Canada over the past two years. Housing supply is not adequate, and ads for homes, apartments, and room are advertising to "Indians only." Is it time we stopped the flow of Indians and other South Asian groups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 as a property owner, I am not in anyway opposed to South Asians driving property values through the roof naive big government socialist Canadian policies for the win what ? some left wing voting Canadian "Progressives" have been caught in their own trap ? all the better, let them burn in a fire of their own making who would defend a Post National State with no identity anyways ? if it came to war, I'd rather recruit from the Punjab Regiment more British than the British themselves at this juncture 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 The housing supply will not be adequate whether it's south asians, regular asians or martians. The race doesn't matter. Population increase needs to be reduced to a sustainable level given our infrastructure growth and we need to make sure our points system is ...er.... on point and the rest will take care of itself. I think it's counterproductive to worry about one race or another, not to mention probably not defensible by the charter and i'm not sure an overtly racist policy serves us well in the future If i was going to suggest banning anyone i'd say limit the numbers from conflict zones as they seem to cause problems here but again that's not really racially based. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: if i was going to suggest banning anyone i'd say limit the numbers from conflict zones as they seem to cause problems here but again that's not really racially based. ban the native born WASP Woke Progressives since they are the ones bringing Western civilization down South Asians who come here are honestly stunned that these lunatics are running the country 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 3 hours ago, Dougie93 said: ban the native born WASP Woke Progressives that would involve cutting the province of Ontario free completely and allowing it to drift away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 While you all once again flap your gums about liberals and progressives, not one speaks of the suggestion as a blatantly racist policy from 100 years ago. Change your name top Idi Amin, you must be DUI to post such crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athos Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 The problem is that Canada failed to develop its own cultural and national identity. How can you integrate into a culture that does not exist?. You can't compare Canada and the UK. The United Kingdom is the core of the Empire where the natives lived a thousand years ago. America chose the revolution to free yourself from British colonial rule and thus greatly build own cultural and national identity by becoming a world empire. On the other hand, Canada tried to achieve the same result as the British colony through evolution, which is practically impossible.Canada still has no national and cultural identity and where the indigenous people were practically exterminated a long time ago. In fact, Canada is the perfect place for multiculturalism to thrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 18 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: Is it time we stopped the flow of Indians and other South Asian groups? I would think limiting immigration to reflect what we realistically can bring in, will be a wiser idea. Asians are among the highest earning demographics in Canada. Among the likeliest to be business owners. Among the highest educated. Not sure why you would want to avoid bringing such people here. You can contribute? I would roll out the red carpet, and let as many as we can in. To me, problematic, is bringing too many people from somewhere like Gaza, Syria etc. without heavy vetting, checking language skills and education levels, and adding that strain to the economy. There are so many homeless newcomers to Canada. This is embarrassing. Contributing immigrants are not the problem. Am all for helping people at war if its feasible. But doing so, without even having a remote idea of the toll it will take on your overwhelmed medical systems, welfare systems and so on, is shortsighted. When I see Syrian women panhandling I don't feel they are the problem. I look at who felt it was a good idea, without an insane amount of planning to make sure not only could they land here, but be able to make a living as well, and I don't know, live a dignified life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 29 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: I look at who felt it was a good idea, without an insane amount of planning to make sure not only could they land here, but be able to make a living as well, and I don't know, live a dignified life. The kind of planning you're talking about never mind execution require time frames that are longer than political cycles. It requires a technocracy whose long-term prescriptions can't be usurped by short-term political expediency. This requires self-disciplined dignified electorates that can likewise restrain themselves from succumbing to their baser short term instincts and seductiveness of political prescriptions. A very tall order it seems especially so late in the day where our planet's population and its needs and desires have grown so large. There are just too many unsustainable things happening now to expect things will be resolved very pleasantly. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 18 hours ago, CdnFox said: that would involve cutting the province of Ontario free completely and allowing it to drift away. Ontario, once the Guardians of Confederation & The Engine of the Canadian Economy has indeed become the socially degenerate ticking time bomb of unrestricted debt financing therein tho that would be the death knell of Canada itself by default so nothing to celebrate for the constitutional monarchists of British North America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 Canada belongs to the whole world. You cannot say 'our' country. People from Asia are just as Canadian as Paul Bunyan. If you happen to be Paul Bunyan then sorry you just don't have a country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 14 minutes ago, Five of swords said: Canada belongs to the whole world. No, it doesn't 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 7 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Not sure why you would want to avoid bringing such people here. You can contribute? I would roll out the red carpet, and let as many as we can in. That doesn't make sense. It doesn't matter what immigrants can contribute if we don't have the housing, accommodations, or apartments to house the people we have now. Immigration in the present situation is just making things worse. Canada has to solve it's housing and accommodation crisis before letting in large number of people. Solving that problem takes a long time. The government has already created the mess we are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 38 minutes ago, Five of swords said: Canada belongs to the whole world. You cannot say 'our' country. People from Asia are just as Canadian as Paul Bunyan. If you happen to be Paul Bunyan then sorry you just don't have a country. well, Canada & India joined the British Empire on the same day by the Treaty of Paris 1763 to end the Seven Years War so a Punjabi Sikh is technically just as British as the next Canadian, any way you slice it now, if you are abandoning the British Empire, that's fair enough but that basically renders you into an American by default to include the fact that Paul Bunyan was an American invention from Minnesota 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 48 minutes ago, Five of swords said: Canada belongs to the whole world. Our country is open to the world, but we do have borders for a reason. Our way of life. We have had wars fought, in order to uphold it. Literally. Hundreds of thousands of people have died for it. I don't think there are a race of people who don't belong here. However, there are ways of life. Ideas, that have no business making it here. Stating it, is not racist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, Perspektiv said: Our country is open to the world, but we do have borders for a reason. that reason only being the War of 1812 prior to that, there was no official border between Canada and the United States it was only after the Americans went on a rampage on the north shore of Lake Erie burning down the farms of the Loyalists in retaliation for the Canadian repulsing the American invasion that people here even conceived of the need for a border, and for the need the call themselves "Canadians" therein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 13 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: Our country is open to the world, but we do have borders for a reason. Our way of life. We have had wars fought, in order to uphold it. Literally. Hundreds of thousands of people have died for it. I don't think there are a race of people who don't belong here. However, there are ways of life. Ideas, that have no business making it here. Stating it, is not racist. Sorry but I don't agree. You don't have borders for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 at the zenith of the British Empire, 25% of the world's population was British and the vast majority of those Britons were Chinese, Indian & African so in fact, the White Anglo Saxon Protestants being a tiny minority of Britons again, dates back to the birth of the British Empire at Paris on 10 February 1763 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 23 minutes ago, Five of swords said: Sorry but I don't agree. You don't have borders for a reason. Then why do we have borders? (wait - just let me grab some popcorn.... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, CdnFox said: Then why do we have borders? short answer, in broad strokes ? the founding of the modern nation state by the Treaty of Westphalia 1648 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 25 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: Our country is open to the world, but we do have borders for a reason. Our way of life. We have had wars fought, in order to uphold it. Literally. Hundreds of thousands of people have died for it. I don't think there are a race of people who don't belong here. However, there are ways of life. Ideas, that have no business making it here. Stating it, is not racist. Great post. Immigration is out of control. And nobody can deny it. To many to fast and to different. And it's sad that we can't have a conversation about it, without one side being called racist. But we need to clean it up. Yes, we need immigrants, but not at this rate. Need to clean up the borders. What I don't understand why some people think that everyone can come here,that's suicide. My understanding is world pop will be dropping, except N.A. And one more thing that's sad ,that people have to pack up and move 3000 miles to find a home. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: short answer, in broad strokes ? the founding of the modern nation state by the Treaty of Westphalia 1648 ahhh, no, That's stupid. That was not the why that was the how Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: ahhh, no, That's stupid. That was not the why that was the how the why was that armies prior to Westphalia would cross over frontiers to attack opposing populations so at the end of the brutal Thirty Years War, a treaty was signed wherein there would be "countries" with "citizens" behind borders and the Sovereigns of those "countries" would be bound to defend their "citizens" on the borders at the same time, attacking an opposing population of "citizens" over a sovereign border was outlawed the central purpose of a modern nation state therein, becoming "national security" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: the why was that armies prior to Westphalia would cross over frontiers to attack opposing populations so at the end of the brutal Thirty Years War, a treaty was signed wherein there would be "countries" with "citizens" behind borders and the Sovereigns of those "countries" would be bound to defend their "citizens" on the borders at the same time, attacking an opposing population of "citizens" over a sovereign border was outlawed the central purpose of a modern nation state therein, becoming "national security" Still not the why. Maybe you should leave the discussion to canadians? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 11 hours ago, Five of swords said: Sorry but I don't agree. You don't have borders for a reason. Then why do we have borders? Why do countries go to war to protect their interests and sovereignty? Just for fun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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