Tim Walz Lied About His Military Service

[Aristides]

6 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Your source is Coehn? Lmao...ok...you got me Skippy.

 

And the family of the doctor who gave him the deferment. 

[Black Dog]

9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

He didn't hold that position because he didn't finish training. He was awarded the position. He never held it because he never finished training.

He didn't hold the position he was awarded? What the f(ck are you talking about, son? Walz served as sergeant major and that was his rank at the time of his retirement in 2005. After he retired, it was retroactively reverted back to master sergeant. Therefore it is not a lie to say he "retired as a sergeant major" because that was the rank he held when he retired regardless of what paperwork got filed afterwards. 

Edited August 7, 2024 by Black Dog

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2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

The Minnesota National Guard confirmed Wednesday that Gov. Tim Walz, Kamala Harris' vice presidential running mate, was demoted and did not retire as a command sergeant major like he has claimed for years, including on his official gubernatorial biography.

Huh...so JD says Walz didn't go to a conflict area, despite Walz suggesting he did. CNN confirmed that Vance was right. Now Walz is confirmed to have been demoted because he didn't complete the course work for his promotion.

I heard someone say today that picking Walz was done to help Harris lose, not help her win.

 

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[Rebound]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

He was demoted from command sergeant. What I said about his classes was that he didn't finish them. I wasn't faulting him for that. I was giving you the facts. He left before he finished. That is why he was demoted.

As for Trump, I dont know if he had spurs or not. Those can be fixed. But I would seriously doubt the military would just accept his word. They probably had some evidence like a medical record. Either way, he didn't lie about serving.

We all know you are trying to equivocate to distract from your nominees lack of qualifications.

If the story is true and he was demoted, he still held the rank at one point and so he did not lie.  Besides that, it’s all very irrelevant.  
 

My take is this: They vet VP candidates very thoroughly. It’s easy for the VP’s office to order service records, so it’s unlikely that your claim is true. 
 

Also, even if he omitted his demotion, it’s insignificant compared to the dishonesty of paying a doctor to submit falsified medical records to justify a deferment when others were being drafted into combat.  Since Trump voters have no trouble looking the other way over that, I see no reason why anyone will refuse to vote for Walz over this unproven allegation.  

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

 

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Couldn't counter the information so you felt you had to attack what you thought was the source. Can you tell what the real source is?

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2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Couldn't counter the information so you felt you had to attack what you thought was the source. Can you tell what the real source is?

It's a garbage source. Now try to provide a link from a reputable news source...

[gatomontes99]

3 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

It's a garbage source. Now try to provide a link from a reputable news source...

The source was the Minnesota NG. Justthenews was just reporting what the Minnesota NG said. Your attempt to negate facts because of what website listed them is transparent. You can't debate on the facts so you choose to attack the source.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/08/07/tim-walz-military-record/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/national-guard-disputes-tim-walzs-military-biography/ar-AA1opbDD

So there is WaPo and Newsweek reporting on his demotion. Need more?

 

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1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said:

The source was the Minnesota NG. Justthenews was just reporting what the Minnesota NG said. Your attempt to negate facts because of what website listed them is transparent. You can't debate on the facts so you choose to attack the source.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/08/07/tim-walz-military-record/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/national-guard-disputes-tim-walzs-military-biography/ar-AA1opbDD

So there is WaPo and Newsweek reporting on his demotion. Need more?

 

I love how JD Vance opened his mouth about this issue, and all the veterans are shitting on him, and saying that Walz is 10x the man that Vance is. I guess we know which side the US military is on.

[gatomontes99]

7 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

I love how JD Vance opened his mouth about this issue, and all the veterans are shitting on him, and saying that Walz is 10x the man that Vance is. I guess we know which side the US military is on.

Lol...ok...now you are just making shtick up?

[gatomontes99]

Next story:

So he was in Afghanistan and implied he was in Iraq.

[CouchPotato]

3 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

So he was in Afghanistan and implied he was in Iraq.

I made a post earlier where he says he carried weapons in war.

5 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

 

 

[gatomontes99]

2 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

I made a post earlier where he says he carried weapons in war.

 

Someone should ask him which war an AR-15 was used and by what army.

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44 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

I made a post earlier where he says he carried weapons in war.

 

Now that is a man I can trust.

Edited August 8, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

That's your answer? Walz lied about his service...TWICE...and you don't care? I guess as long as he's for infanticide, mutilating children's sexual organs, gay porn in school, open boarders and taxing our economy out of existence, it doesn't matter that he lied about his service.

How many times have i pointed it out: whenever the left knows they're in real trouble they play the 'why are we talking about this" card.   Who cares? That was LAST week.  why are we even talking about this?

They try and downplay the hell out of it. 

The fact is to a lot of people, especially americans and especially in many of the swing states, they care very much.  Fudging your military service is seen as pissing on the graves of solders who really did serve and  give their lives. 

It will turn him from being a help in some states to being an albatross in states they needed to win. 

The problem for Harris is that the media can only keep her propped up on a hype train for so long, and then the excitement dies down and people start paying attention to the reality.  Starting about september 15th ish people will focus on this race and she's going to have nothing in the tank.  Her vp's a bad choice, her policies are left of castro and she'll have a tough time convincing people otherwise with all the quotes out there, and she's got no track record and her history is too spotty to stand on. Not to mention no experience and very little name brand recognition. 

 

She needed a vp that would shore up her weakest areas and if anything she's got one that's just added more weaknesses. 

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Next story:

So he was in Afghanistan and implied he was in Iraq.

Noooope. Your randos on Twitter have mislead you again. 

He VERY clearly says where they deployed in support of OEF: Europe. And no, he didn't come close to implying that he was in Iraq. Try listening to the words coming out of his mouth.

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

"... those weapons of war, that I carried in war..."

What a stupid, slimy piece of sh1t he is. 

It's bad enough for him to pretend that he went to war, but he had to have known that people would figure out that he was lying. 

The talking heads in the MSM weren't kidding when they said that he was like a young Joe Biden. He tells the same huge lies as Biden did at that age.

9 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Uh no, he didn't turn it down. He quit after being awarded the position. He just didn't finish the requirements so he was demoted to reflect his true finishing position.

I never said that it was untoward or unusual. I said that his insistence that he held the higher position when he never fully qualified for it is a lie.

Trying to tell the truth to these losers is exhausting. They'll just spin, twist and slither like snakes on hot pavement. 

Edited August 8, 2024 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Next story:

So he was in Afghanistan and implied he was in Iraq.

He wasn't even "in Afghanistan". 

His unit [paraphrasing] "provided base security throughout the European theatre 🤣 in countries from Turkey to England in support of Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan".

I've heard a lot of stories about the dangers of providing base security in Europe in the 2000's... It was a lot like Viet Nam, but without the jungle and the bullets and the bombs. 

Does he have a "European theatre" badge that he wears? 

FFS, being a cop in Brooklyn is worse than what he did. 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I've heard a lot of stories about the dangers of providing base security in Europe in the 2000's..

Research shows that the chances of getting a papercut were 30 percent higher in europe than any other theatre.  30 PERCENT!   Anybody can face a man with a gun, you can always shoot back but it takes REAL courage to do your duty knowing you could be gravely injured at ANY MOMENT and there's simply no fighting back . The paper always wins. IT ALWAYS WINS MAN - THAT TAKES REEAAAAAALLL COURAGE TO FACE!!!! (just like cancer). 

- how the dems think the universe works, apparently. 

[Hodad]

4 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

I made a post earlier where he says he carried weapons in war.

 

Unlike your fellows here, you still get the benefit of the doubt. What you've got here is a case of a clumsy sentence (not prepared remarks) compounded by rapid delivery and (most importantly) an incorrect transcription. 

Parse this for a minute. 

The caption says this: "We can make sure those weapons of war, that I carried in war, are only carried in war"

But if you listen to the video, that's not what he actually said. 

He said, "We can make sure those weapons of war--that I carried--in war is the only place those weapons are at."

^^That's the only way it hangs together. 

If you try to break it differently and move the clause it just doesn't make sense. "We can make sure those weapons of war--that I carried in war--is the only place those weapons are at."

I mean, I guess you could choose to believe that he is a lying and super bad at grammar, but I think the charitable interpretation, given the breathless pace, is that which I proposed above. 

But the way the campaign messed up the transcription is a problem. Some intern should get a lecture. 

Edited August 8, 2024 by Hodad

[Rebound]

13 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Couldn't counter the information so you felt you had to attack what you thought was the source. Can you tell what the real source is?

The truth is that he decided to retire from the Guard after 24 years, he announced his retirement, he had not completed his classes, and as a result, they demoted him the day before his retirement, which was a pretty vindictive, dick move in my opinion.  
 

A year later his unit got called to Iraq to provide artillery defense for an airfield. By then, Walz was in Congress.

Edited August 8, 2024 by Rebound

[gatomontes99]

48 minutes ago, Rebound said:

The truth is that he decided to retire from the Guard after 24 years, he announced his retirement, he had not completed his classes, and as a result, they demoted him the day before his retirement, which was a pretty vindictive, dick move in my opinion.  
 

A year later his unit got called to Iraq to provide artillery defense for an airfield. By then, Walz was in Congress.

All I said is he lied about his rank. You confirmed that.

[Nationalist]

17 hours ago, Black Dog said:

who cares.

 

 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

The truth is that he decided to retire from the Guard after 24 years, he announced his retirement, he had not completed his classes, and as a result, they demoted him the day before his retirement, which was a pretty vindictive, dick move in my opinion.  
 

A year later his unit got called to Iraq to provide artillery defense for an airfield. By then, Walz was in Congress.

 

Tampon Tim strikes again.

Giggle.

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, Hodad said:

Unlike your fellows here, you still get the benefit of the doubt. What you've got here is a case of a clumsy sentence (not prepared remarks) compounded by rapid delivery and (most importantly) an incorrect transcription. 

Tampon Tim strikes again.

 

 

[Rebound]

34 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

All I said is he lied about his rank. You confirmed that.

And as I said…. No Trump voter is changing their vote because Trump used a falsified medical report to evade the draft, so why on Earth do you think this will matter one iota to any voter?

It’s just partisan nonsense.