Trudeau's immigration minister Marc Miller announces that he is quintupling the number of refugees Canada is taking from Gaza from 1,000 to 5,000.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Yes 

2. All you're doing is explaining where your prejudice comes from. 

 

 

It's a ridiculous argument. And one I predicted you would make.

If someone were to say we do not want Nazis moving to Canada because we don't like Nazis and we don't agree with what they believe in or how they behave, that would not be prejudice. That would simply be an acknowledgment that their cultural nature is not compatible with our own.

In this case you are trying to argue that he doesn't like these people and therefore that's why he believes that they are bad people. In reality they are bad people and that's why he doesn't like them. That is 100% different.

So now you are attempting to debate on an ad hominem attack where you attempt to discredit his entire argument without discussing it instead of dealing with the facts that he has presented.

That is dishonest Mike. If you feel that their culture is different than what he is presenting you can make that argument. But dismissing the whole thing and telling him he can go sit in the car instead of doing that is dishonest.

[ironstone]

The fact that there isn't peace with the Palestinians isn't for a lack of willingness on the part of Jews.

https://lawandsocietymagazine.com/how-palestine-rejected-offer-to-have-its-own-state-5-times-in-the-past/

In 2000 at Camp David with Ehud Barak and Yasser Arafat: Barak offered Arafat a Palestinian state in all of Gaza, and 94% of the West Bank, with East Jerusalem as its capital. But the Palestinian leader rejected the offer.
In the words of U.S. President Bill Clinton, “Arafat was here 14 days and said no to everything.”
Instead, the Palestinians launched a bloody wave of suicide bombings that killed over 1,000 Israelis and maimed thousands more, on buses, in wedding halls, and in pizza parlors.

This is what the Israelis have always been up against.

 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, ironstone said:

This is what the Israelis have always been up against.

Pointing it out is racist.

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Pointing it out is racist.

Pointing out it's racist is racist. 

Which means you have two racist points and can now upgrade to 'homophobe'.   Three of those and you can reach the coveted "Deplorable" rank. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Yes 

2. All you're doing is explaining where your prejudice comes from. 

If you say something that's demonstrably true, which I did, that's not prejudiced. The truth just remains true. 

Their cultural norms are quite different from ours. 

If there's a culture that values individual freedoms and religious freedoms then Canadians will generally fit right in. Canadians aren't embarrassed to fit in there.

If there's a culture where individual freedoms are trampled down and islamic religious bigotry is normal then Pakistanis and Afghan will generally fit right in. Pakistanis and Afghans aren't embarrassed to fit in there.

The things that you parade around in Canada saying, which give you "moral standing" here, are anathema to Pakistanis and Afghans. They are repulsed by your tolerance of gays and Jews.  

 

[herbie]

I call people bigots who's entire posting history consists of disparaging people because of their race or religion.
Hidden behind deceitful terms such as 'don't conform to our culture' while deluding themselves that we're some universal homogeneous mass of drones.

And, AS USUAL the standard response of such people is:
I'm not the bigot, you're the bigot for calling me one. They're discriminating against me!

Time to think harder and realize we're not 9 yr olds and I know you are but what am I is not reasoned adult response.

[ironstone]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

I call people bigots who's entire posting history consists of disparaging people because of their race or religion.
Hidden behind deceitful terms such as 'don't conform to our culture' while deluding themselves that we're some universal homogeneous mass of drones.

And, AS USUAL the standard response of such people is:
I'm not the bigot, you're the bigot for calling me one. They're discriminating against me!

Time to think harder and realize we're not 9 yr olds and I know you are but what am I is not reasoned adult response.

How well do you think you would fit into Afghanistan? Pakistan or Iran? Hard core Islamists from any of those countries can come to Canada and we will bend over backwards to not offend them in any way. The same can't be said for any non-Muslim that would go to live in any of those countries.( Extremely unlikely that anyone born in the west would want to live there!)

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, herbie said:

I call people bigots who's entire posting history consists of disparaging people because of their race or religion.
Hidden behind deceitful terms such as 'don't conform to our culture' while deluding themselves that we're some universal homogeneous mass of drones.

And, AS USUAL the standard response of such people is:
I'm not the bigot, you're the bigot for calling me one. They're discriminating against me!

Time to think harder and realize we're not 9 yr olds and I know you are but what am I is not reasoned adult response.

Herbie - you're a 9 year old. 

[Goddess]

21 minutes ago, ironstone said:

How well do you think you would fit into Afghanistan? Pakistan or Iran? Hard core Islamists from any of those countries can come to Canada and we will bend over backwards to not offend them in any way. The same can't be said for any non-Muslim that would go to live in any of those countries.( Extremely unlikely that anyone born in the west would want to live there!)

Maybe ask your wives if they want to holiday in Afghanistan or Pakistan or Iran?  😬

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, ironstone said:

In the words of U.S. President Bill Clinton, “Arafat was here 14 days and said no to everything.”
Instead, the Palestinians launched a bloody wave of suicide bombings that killed over 1,000 Israelis and maimed thousands more, on buses, in wedding halls, and in pizza parlors.

They occasionally attend "peace talks" but it's all just lipstick on a pig.

Achieving their goal of "from the river to the sea" is all they're really after, and they only attend peace talks so that they can pretend that they're trying.

It sucks in people like MH, herbie, eyeball, etc. Ironically the biggest 'liberals' on the planet are all unwittingly supporting a genocide. 

Edited May 30, 2024 by WestCanMan

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

They occasionally attend "peace talks" but it's all just lipstick on a pig.

Achieving their goal of "from the river to the sea" is all they're really after, and they only attend peace talks so that they can pretend that they're trying.

It sucks in people like MH, herbie, eyeball, etc. Ironically the biggest 'liberals' on the planet are all unwittingly supporting a genocide. 

I'm not sure how unwitting it is. They often speak as tho the jews had it coming. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

I call people bigots who's entire posting history consists of disparaging people because of their race or religion.
Hidden behind deceitful terms such as 'don't conform to our culture'

Advocating for genocide & praising terrorist attacks that killed women and children, like we saw people doing at the Ottawa protest, actually goes well beyond "not conforming to our culture". 

I don't know why you feel like we need to import people like that into our country. 

Soon enough another islamic state will flare up somewhere and those people can go join in the festivities. If their state fails then you'll be there to welcome them back. 

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while deluding themselves that we're some universal homogeneous mass of drones.

We're not. But your liberal views and my conservative views both fall well into the liberal category by ME standards. 

Canadians don't admire past genocides and we're not planning future genocides. We don't admire Pakistan's genocides and we don't admire Germany's genocide. 

If you drew a bell curve of our Canadian political views there would be a handful of outliers, 5 standard deviations from the mean, in the category of "would cheer on a genocide against 10M people", but if you drew that same bell curve in Iran or Pakistan that group would appear in the middle.

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And, AS USUAL the standard response of such people is:
I'm not the bigot, you're the bigot for calling me one. They're discriminating against me!

No, that's not the reply. The reply is that they're the ones saying it. I'm just the messenger.

If they were saying "We're good people", and judging by their history and current political climate it seemed like they were good people - by our standards - then it would be a bigoted view to say that their beliefs are incompatible with what we'd consider "good". 

I'd be hard-pressed to find a bunch of evidence that the Portuguese are essentially violent in nature, and favour genocide. If I made such a claim then you'd be able to quickly counter it with facts. 

But you have no facts here so you've gone straight to ad-hominem attacks.

The Iranians are not saying "We're good people". They're saying "We support Pakistan's genocides. We support genocide against Israel. We will never acknowledge Israel as a state. We will never be at peace with Israel. It's not enough to just kill the Jews in Israel, we need to kill them all." ^That's not 5 standard deviations from the mean in Iran. It's definitely not even 3. It's central to their culture.

I don't see how it's beneficial in any way to bring people here to spread those views. Go over there if you want to cheer on a genocide, herbie. You'll be another pea in the pod.

[ironstone]

Britain has pretty much the same immigration policy as Canada, so let's see how well that's going over there.🙄

 

[Goddess]

I'm actually kind of astonished that so many deny the anti-Semitism that is part of Muslim/Islamic countries.

Or the belief that Canada's soil is "magic", so somehow centuries of anti-Semitic indoctrination disappears upon airplane touchdown.

 

** fairy dust, unicorn farts and  candy rainbows **

Edited May 30, 2024 by Goddess

[CdnFox]

Just now, Goddess said:

 

Or the belief that Canada's soil is "magic", so somehow centuries of anti-Semitic indoctrination disappears upon airplane touchdown.

 

 

That's the one that gets me. "these people have been fighting for generations in the Middle East but I'm sure they'll totally be well behaved here as soon as they arrive"

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That's the one that gets me. "these people have been fighting for generations in the Middle East but I'm sure they'll totally be well behaved here as soon as they arrive"

Maybe I missed it in all my 50+ years of life, but I don't ever remember any of my fellow Canadians taking to the streets with shouts of Kill the Jews, shooting up Jewish schools, vandalizing Jewish businesses or Jewish children needing their community to escort them about for their safety.

Lots here arguing that it does not come from Muslim/Islamic immigrants, due to the rareness of anti-Semitism in those cultures.

Where did all this come from, do you suppose?

 

[Army Guy]

17 hours ago, eyeball said:

Compared to the ones you apologize for?

Go fu ck yourself.

SO i guess no hug then...

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Maybe I missed it in all my 50+ years of life, but I don't ever remember any of my fellow Canadians taking to the streets with shouts of Kill the Jews, shooting up Jewish schools, vandalizing Jewish businesses or Jewish children needing their community to escort them about for their safety.

 

Maybe we were sick that day?

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Lots here arguing that it does not come from Muslim/Islamic immigrants, due to the rareness of anti-Semitism in those cultures.

Well these are the kinds of people who insist that right is left and black is white and get themselves killed at a zebra crossing. It's like the old Rice Krispie commercial: What did you THINK Anti-Semitism was made of?

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Where did all this come from, do you suppose?

I'm sure it's harper's fault

The capacity for self delusion a denial of observable facts amongst the left is legendary. I mean I don't even know what to say about it, at this point all you can do is laugh. Arguing that bringing scores of militant anti-semites to Canada won't result in more anti-Semitism in Canada is difficult to fathom.

[ironstone]

This is a really good documentary about what can or will happen to many cities in North America. It's about Hamtramck Michigan which is now a Muslim majority city with an entirely Muslim city council.

So what happens when Islam meets liberal lgtb+ activists? In this case, it seems like the lgtb+ side is meekly backing down. It also points out a sort of alliance on some issues with Islam and Republicans and the inherent dangers of that.

It's not a long video. I'm curious what you guys think?

[herbie]

5 hours ago, ironstone said:

How well do you think you would fit into Afghanistan? Pakistan or Iran?

Whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout anything other than the subject being addressed?

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

Whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout anything other than the subject being addressed?

So you can't answer the question  

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout anything other than the subject being addressed?

Whatabout the fact that you just got dummied again, son? 

Go to any of the countries that you imagine to be chock full of decent people and see how long your liberal ways last. See how long your sister and your mom can walk around without hijabs before they get verbally harassed, spit on, or even assaulted, and then see what the cops do about it. 

After you do that, you can go ahead and bring some of those guys back to live with you. 

[paradox34]

On 5/27/2024 at 1:16 PM, CdnFox said:

I really wish politicians would recognize reality instead of living in their dream world. Perhaps they could start by taking an English course since many don't appear to grasp the language. 

 

Latin root for diversity

The Latin root for diversity is diversus, which means “opposite”, “separate”, “different”, “contrary”, or “hostile”. 

Tuning in to the global media should have convinced them of this by now!

 

 

[PIK]

On 5/30/2024 at 1:19 PM, Goddess said:

Maybe ask your wives if they want to holiday in Afghanistan or Pakistan or Iran?  😬

And don't forget to wave your pride flag.

[CDN1]

On 5/30/2024 at 11:49 AM, herbie said:

I call people bigots who's entire posting history consists of disparaging people because of their race or religion.
Hidden behind deceitful terms such as 'don't conform to our culture' while deluding themselves that we're some universal homogeneous mass of drones.

And, AS USUAL the standard response of such people is:
I'm not the bigot, you're the bigot for calling me one. They're discriminating against me!

Time to think harder and realize we're not 9 yr olds and I know you are but what am I is not reasoned adult response.

Canada is f'd. When the shit hits the fan... that's on you guys.

We're witnessing a pact between a suicidal cult (Woke White libs) and a death cult (Islam).