God bless our monarch - Queen Elizabeth

[I am Groot]

This is either another story of the disregard and disinterest the Trudeau government has in anything related to English Canada's historical and traditional ties with Britain or another sad tale of the bureaucratic inertia in Ottawa. It seems that a year after the Queen's death no one in the Canadian government seems  much interested in making any changes to anything to update our official monarch. it will take at least another three years, apparently, to get Charles' picture on the $20 bill or on passports. And no one seems to have a clue as to when the official portraits hanging in government buildings and embassies might be replaced. I think it's a combination of almost comically inepct bureaucracy and a total lack of interest and respect by Trudeau and his leftist cadre for anything related to our monarchy.

 

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/justin-trudeau-lets-king-charles-down-again

[Zeitgeist]

39 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

This is either another story of the disregard and disinterest the Trudeau government has in anything related to English Canada's historical and traditional ties with Britain or another sad tale of the bureaucratic inertia in Ottawa. It seems that a year after the Queen's death no one in the Canadian government seems  much interested in making any changes to anything to update our official monarch. it will take at least another three years, apparently, to get Charles' picture on the $20 bill or on passports. And no one seems to have a clue as to when the official portraits hanging in government buildings and embassies might be replaced. I think it's a combination of almost comically inepct bureaucracy and a total lack of interest and respect by Trudeau and his leftist cadre for anything related to our monarchy.

 

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/justin-trudeau-lets-king-charles-down-again

 It indicates that the country lacks strength and confidence.  A country that doesn’t take pride in its history, achievements, and culture, isn’t a country worth defending, which also explains why the federal government has given up on our military.  Either stand up for Canada or let it fizzle out into a Balkanized collection of jurisdictions, some of which might join the US or go it alone.  This is also what happens when you weaken your population with mamby pamby messaging about “vulnerablizing” children and affirm kids who claim they’re cats, or that says anyone who opposes rampant immigration is a white supremacist.  

The Post-National state is a failed China-UN puppet.

The next federal government has a lot to do to restore Canada.

Edited May 20, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[herbie]

The UK won't even have Chucky on its money for another couple months.

WTF does Trudeau even have to do with it? Does he personally decide when the mint redesigns and issues coins and bills? Once again showing you think the PM should, praising democracy as you bellow for a leader who will tell you what you will have for f*cking breakfast.

Call PP and tell him to take up the highly important issue of WhoTF is on the money so he can outrage too. He can order the trains to run on time as he wishes away the glacial speed of bureaucracies.

As for you tradionalists, replace the $20 with Terry Fox and all the coins with the Maple Leaf from the old penny. You can still wave at Chucky when he visits.

Edited May 20, 2024 by herbie

[Nefarious Banana]

Justin Trudeau should be on the Canadian $5.- note.

His face on one side, his other face on the other side.

One of those faces should be black.

The $5.- note wasn't worth much before, and is virtually worthless

now with Trudeau's 'Justinflation' policies.

With a pocket full of those 'Justin junk' notes, you're never out of toilrt paper. 

 

 

Edited May 21, 2024 by Nefarious Banana

[ExFlyer]

Monarchy Pffft.

Parlaiment wants to be productive instead of bickering, find out a way to cut the British apron strings....completely.

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Monarchy Pffft.

Parlaiment wants to be productive instead of bickering, find out a way to cut the British apron strings....completely.

So why not become American?

[ExFlyer]

13 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

So why not become American?

Why? Just because I am not  monarchist??

The Americans have their very own, made by them, system.  Not hanger ons to the knights of the round table LOL

You must be Sir Canadalot

[myata]

How could a modern democratic country be run by a foreign monarch? Can we think still? Or is it too expensive already?

Edited May 21, 2024 by myata

[Legato]

We already have Prince Trudeau the Sockmighty and his roundish table.

 

[blackbird]

The advantage of the Constitutional Monarch is the armed forces and the RCMP swear allegiance to the monarch and this prevents a would-be little tin-pot dictator from seizing absolute power and setting up a Communist or Fascist dictatorship like north Korea or Cuba or China and eliminating all human rights and freedoms.  We have an elected Parliament now and supposed to have human rights although at times it is not perfect.  But if you get rid of the Constitutional Monarch you could be setting yourself up for an absolute dictatorship because the barrier to protect from that would be gone.

Many simple-minded people don't understand that.

Edited May 21, 2024 by blackbird

[I am Groot]

18 hours ago, herbie said:

The UK won't even have Chucky on its money for another couple months.

WTF does Trudeau even have to do with it? Does he personally decide when the mint redesigns and issues coins and bills?

He sets the tone for his incompetent, inefficient, overly bureaucratic government. Do you think Harper would have let the public service balloon by 40% in a few short years? You think it takes four years to replace the Queen's face with the King's? Seriously? You sure have that bureaucrat mentality.

You know how to get it done faster? You tell the head of the Bank that if The King isn't on the bill by the end of the year he needn't bother coming to work in 2025. You bet your ass it will get done. And on the passports too. As for pictures in government offices and embassies, same message to Heritage. Get it done or find other employment.

[blackbird]

19 hours ago, herbie said:

WTF does Trudeau even have to do with it?

The PM is supposed to be overall in charge of the government and how it functions don't you think?  Or is the bureaucracy free to do whatever they feel like at taxpayer's expense?  I am afraid it does do whatever it feels like under Trudeau. He is useless and the government is out of control to a significant degree.  We have seen that on countless issues and scandals.  Things like the Arrivecan app are an example.  Foreign interference is another example.

Edited May 21, 2024 by blackbird

[myata]

Canada is confused. That much is clear already.

[SpankyMcFarland]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

The advantage of the Constitutional Monarch is the armed forces and the RCMP swear allegiance to the monarch and this prevents a would-be little tin-pot dictator from seizing absolute power and setting up a Communist or Fascist dictatorship like north Korea or Cuba or China and eliminating all human rights and freedoms.  We have an elected Parliament now and supposed to have human rights although at times it is not perfect.  But if you get rid of the Constitutional Monarch you could be setting yourself up for an absolute dictatorship because the barrier to protect from that would be gone.

Many simple-minded people don't understand that.

Many stable democracies have elected heads of state to perform the duties of a monarch and get on perfectly well. In fact, more countries in Europe are parliamentary republics with a ceremonial president than anything else. We are close to that already with our GG as de facto head of state and a monarch who hasn’t turned up in well over a decade. 

Edited May 21, 2024 by SpankyMcFarland

[blackbird]

12 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Many stable democracies have elected heads of state to perform the duties of a monarch and get on perfectly well. In fact, more countries in Europe are parliamentary republics with a ceremonial president than anything else. We are close to that already with our GG as de facto head of state and a monarch who hasn’t turned up in well over a decade. 

Most of the world are dictatorships.  Be careful what you wish for.

[Black Dog]

On 5/20/2024 at 10:38 AM, I am Groot said:

This is either another story of the disregard and disinterest the Trudeau government has in anything related to English Canada's historical and traditional ties with Britain or another sad tale of the bureaucratic inertia in Ottawa. It seems that a year after the Queen's death no one in the Canadian government seems  much interested in making any changes to anything to update our official monarch. it will take at least another three years, apparently, to get Charles' picture on the $20 bill or on passports. And no one seems to have a clue as to when the official portraits hanging in government buildings and embassies might be replaced. I think it's a combination of almost comically inepct bureaucracy and a total lack of interest and respect by Trudeau and his leftist cadre for anything related to our monarchy.

I think i's a good move since Charles is probably going to be dead very soon and we'll have to spend a whole bunch more money to change it all over again, might as well just wait for William.

[Moonbox]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

He sets the tone for his incompetent, inefficient, overly bureaucratic government. Do you think Harper would have let the public service balloon by 40% in a few short years? 

No, but what does that have to do with our $20 bills?  

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

You know how to get it done faster? You tell the head of the Bank that if The King isn't on the bill by the end of the year he needn't bother coming to work in 2025. You bet your ass it will get done.

Yeah, but why bother?  Why would we be in any rush to get the face of a whiney, deservedly unliked monarch, when the bills of the previous popular monarch are just fine?  Like...why would we do anything but the bare minimum on this front?  

[herbie]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

You know how to get it done faster? You tell the head of the Bank that if The King isn't on the bill by the end of the year he needn't bother coming to work in 2025. You bet your ass it will get done. And on the passports too. As for pictures in government offices and embassies, same message to Heritage. Get it done or find other employment.

See what I mean. Boiling down to wanting an actual dictator. Democracy is too inefficient.

 

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

The advantage of the Constitutional Monarch is the armed forces and the RCMP swear allegiance to the monarch and this prevents a would-be little tin-pot dictator from seizing absolute power

We'll just fprget who set Hitler and Mussolini into power will we? How convenient....

3 hours ago, myata said:

Canada is confused. That much is clear already.

Not really, so we have a Head of State that doesn't do Sweet F*ck All but wave when he visits. The Governor General does what very little about anything they can do on the Monarchs behalf.
Beats the snot out of a President that tells you what they're going to do and how you will act any day. Unless you actually want a dictator but scream loudly that anyone who can't dictate to you is one.
And it's impossible to change the Constitution at this time.

So why bother getting your panties in a knot about the Monarchy. Be happy that when they do get Chucky on the coins it will be a side profile, otherwise the coins will have to be changed to oval shaped to fit his ears in.

[myata]

33 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Like...why would we do anything but the bare minimum on this front?  

Because the detachment is now complete. Have to think, what the next cause celebre will be because you're so far from the real problems of the people that cant even imagine what they say. What "mortgage" with 200K salary for doing button pushing, blank faced? What do you mean?

So, a Q++ contest or monarch rebranding something needs to be done, now!

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

Like...why would we do anything but the bare minimum on this front?  

Doing the bare minimum to remember our heritage, history and culture is how we have a country with 'no core identity' made up of growing, disparate diaspora communities with no particular loyalty to Canada or interest in integrating. It's how we get a country full of young people who consider it 'illegitimate' and accept that we should grovel before the world for the past crimes of our ancestors, of people who feel no pride in the country or much interest in its defense or security.

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

55 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Doing the bare minimum to remember our heritage, history and culture is how we have a country with 'no core identity' made up of growing, disparate diaspora communities with no particular loyalty to Canada or interest in integrating. It's how we get a country full of young people who consider it 'illegitimate' and accept that we should grovel before the world for the past crimes of our ancestors, of people who feel no pride in the country or much interest in its defense or security.

The US and many other countries in the Americas have amply demonstrated that such patriotism doesn’t require an unelected foreigner as head of state. Our arrangement with Britain is out of date for many reasons.

[myata]

9 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Our arrangement with Britain is out of date for many reasons.

It takes about one minute to figure out that other than some historical oddity, in the real world it can quickly lead to real, serious problems. This individual is a citizen of another state, and has the first and primary allegiance to another state. Can one really have a "head of state" like that?

Why has it been so hard to think? What hasn't been right with us?

[SpankyMcFarland]

32 minutes ago, myata said:

It takes about one minute to figure out that other than some historical oddity, in the real world it can quickly lead to real, serious problems. This individual is a citizen of another state, and has the first and primary allegiance to another state. Can one really have a "head of state" like that?

Why has it been so hard to think? What hasn't been right with us?

When you write it like that, it looks mad, doesn’t it?

At some point we will probably have a serious falling out with the UK. These things happen. Does anybody doubt whose side our head of state will be obliged to take under such circumstances?

Edited May 21, 2024 by SpankyMcFarland

[paradox34]

On 5/20/2024 at 10:38 AM, I am Groot said:

This is either another story of the disregard and disinterest the Trudeau government has in anything related to English Canada's historical and traditional ties with Britain or another sad tale of the bureaucratic inertia in Ottawa. It seems that a year after the Queen's death no one in the Canadian government seems  much interested in making any changes to anything to update our official monarch. it will take at least another three years, apparently, to get Charles' picture on the $20 bill or on passports. And no one seems to have a clue as to when the official portraits hanging in government buildings and embassies might be replaced. I think it's a combination of almost comically inepct bureaucracy and a total lack of interest and respect by Trudeau and his leftist cadre for anything related to our monarchy.

 

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/justin-trudeau-lets-king-charles-down-again

Thank god! This government squanders enough money. Blowing thousands if not millions more to update our currency and government buildings with irrelevant monarchist symbols can wait forever.

[myata]

59 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Does anybody doubt whose side our head of state will be obliged to take under such circumstances?

Can it (this kind of mentality) be classified as "astounding mental laziness"? We have one empirical case.