gatomontes99 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 It's the economy stupid...right? You can try to make all the excuses in the world, but when people are feeling it in their wallets, the candidates feel it at the polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: It's the economy stupid...right? You can try to make all the excuses in the world, but when people are feeling it in their wallets, the candidates feel it at the polls. Obviously ^this guy is struggling because he FAILED to pay attention in HS, since he can't even identify Ukraine on a map. Let alone understand how expensive it will be for US if Ukraine LOSES the war PUTIN STARTED. He probably doesn't even know anything about what happened. Nor does he understand that the vast majority of that $60B is being spent to employ US citizens to build the arms that Ukraine NEEDS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: Obviously ^this guy is struggling because he FAILED to pay attention in HS, since he can't even identify Ukraine on a map. Let alone understand how expensive it will be for US if Ukraine LOSES the war PUTIN STARTED. He probably doesn't even know anything about what happened. Nor does he understand that the vast majority of that $60B is being spent to employ US citizens to build the arms that Ukraine NEEDS. Study your butt off in college and work like a slave at your first job and you’ll move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 These guys will dredge through the Internet to find any ****** they think makes their claim. Obvious the guy isn't bright enough to attend post secondary and have to worry about student loans. That is until they make you go to Hamburger University and make you pay for it before they'll hire you (for the least they can legally pay you). Uhhh,.... they're all getting rich working at Chick FIl A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted April 13 Author Report Share Posted April 13 37 minutes ago, herbie said: These guys will dredge through the Internet to find any ****** they think makes their claim. Obvious the guy isn't bright enough to attend post secondary and have to worry about student loans. That is until they make you go to Hamburger University and make you pay for it before they'll hire you (for the least they can legally pay you). Uhhh,.... they're all getting rich working at Chick FIl A You are missing the point. This isn't about whether or not he is right. This is about the perception he, and others his age, have about the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 And a fraudulent billionaire will act in their best interests? Like how stupid are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, herbie said: And a fraudulent billionaire will act in their best interests? Like how stupid are they? You mean George Soros? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, Legato said: You mean George Soros? Soros is NOT governing their country nor attempting to. Duh 4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: You are missing the point. This isn't about whether or not he is right. This is about the perception he, and others his age, have about the economy. You spreading his false perceptions is not helping him see the light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted April 13 Author Report Share Posted April 13 7 hours ago, robosmith said: You spreading his false perceptions is not helping him see the light. His perception isn't false. Prices have risen 21% under Biden. Meanwhile real wages are down 3.4%. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Hilarious. The Libbies are losing young voters, Blacks, Hispanics, women, men, and themselves. Their panic is fun to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: His perception isn't false. Prices have risen 21% under Biden. Meanwhile real wages are down 3.4%. World wide phenomena are not CAUSED BY BIDEN. Duh. US economy is now the best in the Western world. Which you would know if you watched the real news instead of FOS LIES. 🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, robosmith said: World wide phenomena are not CAUSED BY BIDEN. Duh. US economy is now the best in the Western world. Which you would know if you watched the real news instead of FOS LIES. 🤮 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 3 hours ago, robosmith said: World wide phenomena are not CAUSED BY BIDEN. Duh. US economy is now the best in the Western world. Which you would know if you watched the real news instead of FOS LIES. 🤮 No, it's directly traceable to biden and his policies. It's not a world phenomenon - places that make questionable financial decisions are experiencing inflation and higher interest and places that make better decisions are not. To quote twain, your faults are not in your stars but in your selves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted April 13 Author Report Share Posted April 13 5 hours ago, robosmith said: World wide phenomena are not CAUSED BY BIDEN. Duh. US economy is now the best in the Western world. Which you would know if you watched the real news instead of FOS LIES. 🤮 It isn't world wide: "Euro area annual inflation down to 2.4% Skip to the content Overview Euro area annual inflation is expected to be 2.4% in March 2024, down from 2.6% in February according to a flash estimate from Eurostat, the statistical office of the European Union." https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-euro-indicators/w/2-03042024-ap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 On 4/12/2024 at 5:48 PM, robosmith said: Obviously ^this guy is struggling because he FAILED to pay attention in HS, since he can't even identify Ukraine on a map. Let alone understand how expensive it will be for US if Ukraine LOSES the war PUTIN STARTED. He probably doesn't even know anything about what happened. Nor does he understand that the vast majority of that $60B is being spent to employ US citizens to build the arms that Ukraine NEEDS. He is not wrong on the issue of affordability though. It's worse than ever now for young people. Granted, he's not the most eloquent speaker. And now Iran has reportedly launched drones against Israel. Biden supporters said all this wouldn't happen under the 'vastly experienced' Joe Biden. Conflicts are getting bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 5 hours ago, robosmith said: Which you would know if you watched the real news instead of FOS LIES. 🤮 What news networks do you watch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caswell Thomas Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 22 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: You are missing the point. This isn't about whether or not he is right. This is about the perception he, and others his age, have about the economy. Actually YOU are missing it. In terms of dollars, the U. S. Economy ..if it we're based in the flat rate standard of unemployment you claim at 3.4% you state, it would be flat and stagnant , but that's A misconception. The actual standard rate is $11.06 higher than it last was the last standard measuring era...ten years c ago in the previous generation whose data was actually based on data over five years old when it was reported, just as this is for the "current" years report.  So...based on how this statistic us measured, current standard rate of $27.76 is much better than the last era whose best standard was $16.70. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted April 13 Author Report Share Posted April 13 25 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said: Actually YOU are missing it. In terms of dollars, the U. S. Economy ..if it we're based in the flat rate standard of unemployment you claim at 3.4% you state, it would be flat and stagnant , but that's A misconception. The actual standard rate is $11.06 higher than it last was the last standard measuring era...ten years c ago in the previous generation whose data was actually based on data over five years old when it was reported, just as this is for the "current" years report.  So...based on how this statistic us measured, current standard rate of $27.76 is much better than the last era whose best standard was $16.70. Holy crap! That's only two sentences? Break it down for me. I'm having a hard time following your train of thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 On 4/13/2024 at 2:48 PM, gatomontes99 said: It isn't world wide: "Euro area annual inflation down to 2.4% Skip to the content Overview Euro area annual inflation is expected to be 2.4% in March 2024, down from 2.6% in February according to a flash estimate from Eurostat, the statistical office of the European Union." https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-euro-indicators/w/2-03042024-ap It's still world wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 On 4/13/2024 at 2:54 PM, ironstone said: He is not wrong on the issue of affordability though. It's worse than ever now for young people. Granted, he's not the most eloquent speaker. And now Iran has reportedly launched drones against Israel. Biden supporters said all this wouldn't happen under the 'vastly experienced' Joe Biden. Conflicts are getting bigger. Israel attacked the Iranian consulate. It is OBVIOUS that Biden has no control over Netanyahu. However, the DEFENSE WORKED. Who are these "Biden supporters" who you imagine provided that guarantee? LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 On 4/13/2024 at 2:57 PM, ironstone said: What news networks do you watch? All of them. I've even watched FOS LIES when visiting a friend who was a fan. That's how I found out about their LIES. And reading about the Dominion discovery and them winning the $800M settlement. On 4/13/2024 at 4:15 PM, gatomontes99 said: Holy crap! That's only two sentences? Break it down for me. I'm having a hard time following your train of thought. Can't you count? There are actually FOUR sentences. LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted April 15 Author Report Share Posted April 15 16 minutes ago, robosmith said: It's still world wide. That literally proves my point. Plus, it is old data. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 Just now, gatomontes99 said: That literally proves my point. Plus, it is old data. No, it shows all the countries have been in the same ballpark for MONTHS. AKA worldwide phenomena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted April 15 Author Report Share Posted April 15 Just now, robosmith said: No, it shows all the countries have been in the same ballpark for MONTHS. AKA worldwide phenomena. No it doesn't. It shows the European countries, China and Italy well below us and Russia and Brazil well above us. That proves it isn't world wide. It is a national issue. Plus the data is old, we are at 3.4% CPI and the producers index is even higher. Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 On 4/12/2024 at 2:40 PM, gatomontes99 said: It's the economy stupid...right? You can try to make all the excuses in the world, but when people are feeling it in their wallets, the candidates feel it at the polls. I can see where he's coming from, but two things strike me: if he can't point out Israel and Ukraine on a map, maybe he's not the most interesting voice in the room lol a lot of people his age had parents and grandparents who lost everything they had in the 2000's, and they were too old to ever make it all back. The uni-party? I can believe that the Dems and GOP are secretly a lot more united than they let on, but one party definitely favours American workers over illegal immigrants more than the other, and there's no doubt who that is.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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