TDS in full swing at NYT

[Deluge]

Oh, dear! What's a democrat to do?? *CRY*

Donald J. Trump and his allies are already laying the groundwork for a possible second Trump presidency, forging plans for an even more extreme agenda than his first term.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/trump-2025-second-term.html

[QuebecOverCanada]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

for an even more extreme agenda than his first term

What was extreme?

To tariff China? To lower taxes to all Americans and enact lower corporate tax that had the effect to bring back corporations that were offshore? To say no to open borders? To enact a ban for individuals from problematic countries to enter the US? To make a deal between South and North Korea? To have no war for 4 years? To enact deals between Israel and Arab countries?

Oh wait... I get it.

He said things that were not politically correct, while the sniffer in chief that was instated back in 21 isn't able to speak a clear sentence.

But hey, he loves the ice cream. Isn't he a sweet grandpa.

[Fluffypants]

44 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

What was extreme?

To tariff China? To lower taxes to all Americans and enact lower corporate tax that had the effect to bring back corporations that were offshore? To say no to open borders? To enact a ban for individuals from problematic countries to enter the US? To make a deal between South and North Korea? To have no war for 4 years? To enact deals between Israel and Arab countries?

Oh wait... I get it.

He said things that were not politically correct, while the sniffer in chief that was instated back in 21 isn't able to speak a clear sentence.

But hey, he loves the ice cream. Isn't he a sweet grandpa.

He is a sweet Grandpa to most of his grandchildren. One of them he either keeps forgetting exists or chooses to pretend doesn't exist.

Edited February 20, 2024 by Fluffypants

[Deluge]

One thing about the NYT is that they're not even aware of how woke they are. I think most news outlets are like that. 

The following article talks about when the left-wing rag became infected with wokeness - which, of course, feeds directly into the TDS epidemic of today: 

A Visual Demonstration of How Fast the NYT Got Woke:

https://fee.org/articles/a-visual-demonstration-of-how-fast-the-nyt-got-woke/

[Rebound]

2 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

What was extreme?

To tariff China? To lower taxes to all Americans and enact lower corporate tax that had the effect to bring back corporations that were offshore? To say no to open borders? To enact a ban for individuals from problematic countries to enter the US? To make a deal between South and North Korea? To have no war for 4 years? To enact deals between Israel and Arab countries?

Oh wait... I get it.

He said things that were not politically correct, while the sniffer in chief that was instated back in 21 isn't able to speak a clear sentence.

But hey, he loves the ice cream. Isn't he a sweet grandpa.

Why don’t you read the article and learn something? 
 

“Since beginning his 2024 presidential campaign, Donald J. Trump has said the “termination” of the Constitution would have been justified to overturn the 2020 election, told followers “I am your retribution” and vowed to use the Justice Department to prosecute his adversaries — starting with President Biden and his family.

 

If he wins another term, Mr. Trump has said he would use the Justice Department to have his adversaries investigated and charged with crimes, including saying in June that he would appoint “a real special prosecutor to go after” President Biden and his family. He later declared in an interview with Univision that he could, if someone challenged him politically, have that person indicted.

Allies of Mr. Trump have also been developing an intellectual blueprint to cast aside the post-Watergate norm of Justice Department investigatory independence from White House political direction.

Trump hints he may undercut NATO and retreat from Europe, but plans to use U.S. military force in Mexico.

Mr. Trump has long made clear that he sees the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, the country’s most important military alliance, not as a force multiplier with allies but as a drain on American resources by freeloaders.

While in office, he repeatedly threatened to withdraw from NATO, and his campaign website says he plans to “finish” the process of “fundamentally re-evaluating NATO’s purpose and NATO’s mission.” He and his team have refused to elaborate on that cryptic line, fueling widespread anxiety that his return to power could mean ending or gutting the alliance.

 

Trump wants to use U.S. troops on domestic soil.

Mr. Trump could also deploy federal troops inside the United States. While it is generally illegal to use the military for domestic law enforcement purposes, a law called the Insurrection Act creates an exception. His top immigration adviser has said that in a second term, they would invoke the Insurrection Act at the southern border to use soldiers as immigration agents.

After some anti-police-violence demonstrations in 2020 became riots, Mr. Trump had an order drafted to use troops to crack down on protesters in Washington. He never signed it. But the prospect of using federal troops to enforce order on domestic soil continues to entice him. Mr. Trump also suggested at a rally in Iowa this year that he intends to unilaterally send troops into Democratic-run cities.

Trump allies want fewer checks to restrain him.

Forces that somewhat contained Mr. Trump’s autocratic tendencies in his first term — staff members who saw their job as sometimes restraining him, a few congressional Republicans episodically willing to criticize or oppose him, a partisan balance on the Supreme Court that occasionally ruled against him — would all be weaker in a second term. As a result, his and his advisers’ more extreme policy plans would have a greater prospect of becoming reality.

 

 

Edited February 20, 2024 by Rebound

[Deluge]

2 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Why don’t you read the article and learn something? 

There's really not much to read. The New York Times wants world wide communism and Trump is their biggest obstacle right now. 

That pretty much sums it up.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

What was extreme?

To tariff China? To lower taxes to all Americans and enact lower corporate tax that had the effect to bring back corporations that were offshore? To say no to open borders? To enact a ban for individuals from problematic countries to enter the US? To make a deal between South and North Korea? To have no war for 4 years? To enact deals between Israel and Arab countries?

Oh wait... I get it.

He said things that were not politically correct, while the sniffer in chief that was instated back in 21 isn't able to speak a clear sentence.

But hey, he loves the ice cream. Isn't he a sweet grandpa.

That's what i was thinking  - if we took 'trump' out of his term and just looked at what happened with foreign policy and the economy etc (ie - his job) then it would be considered a moderately successful and largely uneventful presidency even by the left's standards.  What was radical? What did he do that almost every other president did not? Other than not start any wars  

 

[Rebound]

12 minutes ago, Deluge said:

One thing about the NYT is that they're not even aware of how woke they are. I think most news outlets are like that. 

The following article talks about when the left-wing rag became infected with wokeness - which, of course, feeds directly into the TDS epidemic of today: 

A Visual Demonstration of How Fast the NYT Got Woke:

https://fee.org/articles/a-visual-demonstration-of-how-fast-the-nyt-got-woke/

Typical dipshlt, you judge The NY Times without even reading them. 

[Deluge]

11 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Why don’t you read the article and learn something? 
 

“Since beginning his 2024 presidential campaign, Donald J. Trump has said the “termination” of the Constitution would have been justified to overturn the 2020 election, told followers “I am your retribution” and vowed to use the Justice Department to prosecute his adversaries — starting with President Biden and his family.

 

If he wins another term, Mr. Trump has said he would use the Justice Department to have his adversaries investigated and charged with crimes, including saying in June that he would appoint “a real special prosecutor to go after” President Biden and his family. He later declared in an interview with Univision that he could, if someone challenged him politically, have that person indicted.

Allies of Mr. Trump have also been developing an intellectual blueprint to cast aside the post-Watergate norm of Justice Department investigatory independence from White House political direction.

Trump hints he may undercut NATO and retreat from Europe, but plans to use U.S. military force in Mexico.

Mr. Trump has long made clear that he sees the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, the country’s most important military alliance, not as a force multiplier with allies but as a drain on American resources by freeloaders.

While in office, he repeatedly threatened to withdraw from NATO, and his campaign website says he plans to “finish” the process of “fundamentally re-evaluating NATO’s purpose and NATO’s mission.” He and his team have refused to elaborate on that cryptic line, fueling widespread anxiety that his return to power could mean ending or gutting the alliance.

 

Trump wants to use U.S. troops on domestic soil.

Mr. Trump could also deploy federal troops inside the United States. While it is generally illegal to use the military for domestic law enforcement purposes, a law called the Insurrection Act creates an exception. His top immigration adviser has said that in a second term, they would invoke the Insurrection Act at the southern border to use soldiers as immigration agents.

After some anti-police-violence demonstrations in 2020 became riots, Mr. Trump had an order drafted to use troops to crack down on protesters in Washington. He never signed it. But the prospect of using federal troops to enforce order on domestic soil continues to entice him. Mr. Trump also suggested at a rally in Iowa this year that he intends to unilaterally send troops into Democratic-run cities.

Trump allies want fewer checks to restrain him.

Forces that somewhat contained Mr. Trump’s autocratic tendencies in his first term — staff members who saw their job as sometimes restraining him, a few congressional Republicans episodically willing to criticize or oppose him, a partisan balance on the Supreme Court that occasionally ruled against him — would all be weaker in a second term. As a result, his and his advisers’ more extreme policy plans would have a greater prospect of becoming reality.

 

 

All looks good to me. 

Can't wait to get started.

3 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Typical dipshlt, you judge The NY Times without even reading them. 

What's to judge? We both know the NYT is a left-wing rag, so why are you crying? 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

All looks good to me. 

Can't wait to get started.

The desperation is frankly appalling. The claims are so over the top exaggerated that no reasonable person is going to believe them.

Which is going to be a problem for the dems.

They've been screaming that the sky is falling and that trump will eat their babies for so long now that people have tuned it out.

So when they get to the actual election - what will they have left in the bank? Their whole campaign seems to be building around 'orange man bad' as their ONLY platform plank, and nobody's going to care.  I think they're hoping that maybe he'll get convicted on one of the criminal charges by then but PEOPLE STILL won't care. They've lied and 'trumped up' charges so much that nobody cares any more about whether he's convicted or he isn't.

And that's going to leave them biden's record to run on as their only choice. And that's  a problem.

[Deluge]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

The desperation is frankly appalling. The claims are so over the top exaggerated that no reasonable person is going to believe them.

Which is going to be a problem for the dems.

They've been screaming that the sky is falling and that trump will eat their babies for so long now that people have tuned it out.

So when they get to the actual election - what will they have left in the bank? Their whole campaign seems to be building around 'orange man bad' as their ONLY platform plank, and nobody's going to care.  I think they're hoping that maybe he'll get convicted on one of the criminal charges by then but PEOPLE STILL won't care. They've lied and 'trumped up' charges so much that nobody cares any more about whether he's convicted or he isn't.

And that's going to leave them biden's record to run on as their only choice. And that's  a problem.

I still think they believe their mindless blather is effective, as they still manage to cow weak Republicans and Moderates. 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Deluge said:

I still think they believe their mindless blather is effective, as they still manage to cow weak Republicans and Moderates. 

Well it's 'effective' to them - THEY believe the crap and so they think everyone else should. It's a fact that the mentally ill believe their self delusions and are genuinely shocked when others don't.  But the fact of the matter is they are horribly out of touch with the average American. There's actually been some polling and study on this and the results were quite interesting.

And i don't think they're doing that great a job with the moderates or what we call the 'red tories'  (liberals are the reds in canada, and peope who are weak conservatives and somewhat libearal are called red tories.  I guess you'd calll them blue republicans).

the polling indicates that the mushy middle is leaning towards trump.

ANd now that they've already turned their Amp all the way up to 11 - by the time the election starts its just not going to have the kind of impact they want.

[Yakuda]

29 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Typical dipshlt, you judge The NY Times without even reading them. 

Typical brainwashed leftist, you read that bird cage carpeting. I bet even you don't read that sh*t do you? 

[Deluge]

19 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well it's 'effective' to them - THEY believe the crap and so they think everyone else should. It's a fact that the mentally ill believe their self delusions and are genuinely shocked when others don't.  But the fact of the matter is they are horribly out of touch with the average American. There's actually been some polling and study on this and the results were quite interesting.

And i don't think they're doing that great a job with the moderates or what we call the 'red tories'  (liberals are the reds in canada, and peope who are weak conservatives and somewhat libearal are called red tories.  I guess you'd calll them blue republicans).

the polling indicates that the mushy middle is leaning towards trump.

ANd now that they've already turned their Amp all the way up to 11 - by the time the election starts its just not going to have the kind of impact they want.

Biden is the reason their boomboxes are roaring up to 11. All it'd take is his removal and Michael Obama slithering in to turn this race into a wokeness carnival - even those leaning toward Trump would switch for something like that. 

[Yakuda]

9 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Biden is the reason their boomboxes are roaring up to 11. All it'd take is his removal and Michael Obama slithering in to turn this race into a wokeness carnival - even those leaning toward Trump would switch for something like that. 

Its either Mike and gruesome newsome or gruesome and Mikey. I think it will be the latter rather than the former. They see gruesome as the white male successor to biden and would hope to have 8 years of gruesome to build mike up then unleash her for hopefully another 8 years after that. Leftists are patient if nothing else. They will play for the long game.

Edited February 20, 2024 by Yakuda

[herbie]

See the problem with 'rightspeak' is it's always backwards.

The deranged are actually the ones still supporting a scumbag who if anyone else would already be doing the perp walk
 

 

[Yakuda]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

See the problem with 'rightspeak' is it's always backwards.

The deranged are actually the ones still supporting a scumbag who if anyone else would already be doing the perp walk
 

 

I know, right???? That biden gets away with all kinds of sh*t 

Edited February 20, 2024 by Yakuda

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

He is a sweet Grandpa to most of his grandchildren. One of them he either keeps forgetting exists or chooses to pretend doesn't exist.

This is true...

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Biden is the reason their boomboxes are roaring up to 11. All it'd take is his removal and Michael Obama slithering in to turn this race into a wokeness carnival - even those leaning toward Trump would switch for something like that. 

Hard to say. There is political precedent with regards to parachuting in a 'white night' at the last minute (or in this case a black one). It can often lead to disaster rather than good fortune. It's often seen by voters as a crass political trick.  And that person has very little time to make their case as to why they'd be an excellent leader.  Its different than if she'd been running a campaign to win the nomination.

They might pull it off but it would have to be like RIGHT NOW and there would have to be at least a few token 'competitors'.  They're not going to get away with it at the last second.

5 minutes ago, herbie said:

See the problem with 'rightspeak' is it's always backwards.

The deranged are actually the ones still supporting a scumbag who if anyone else would already be doing the perp walk
 

 

So you're a leftie AND you're dyslexic.  Good to know.

[Deluge]

15 minutes ago, herbie said:

See the problem with 'rightspeak' is it's always backwards.

The deranged are actually the ones still supporting a scumbag who if anyone else would already be doing the perp walk

"rightspeak" is right.

What's backwards is the regressive nature of psychopaths who refer to themselves as "progressive". 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Why don’t you read the article and learn something? 
 

“Since beginning his 2024 presidential campaign, Donald J. Trump has said the “termination” of the Constitution would have been justified to overturn the 2020 election, told followers “I am your retribution” and vowed to use the Justice Department to prosecute his adversaries — starting with President Biden and his family.

 

If he wins another term, Mr. Trump has said he would use the Justice Department to have his adversaries investigated and charged with crimes, including saying in June that he would appoint “a real special prosecutor to go after” President Biden and his family. He later declared in an interview with Univision that he could, if someone challenged him politically, have that person indicted.

Allies of Mr. Trump have also been developing an intellectual blueprint to cast aside the post-Watergate norm of Justice Department investigatory independence from White House political direction.

Trump hints he may undercut NATO and retreat from Europe, but plans to use U.S. military force in Mexico.

Mr. Trump has long made clear that he sees the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, the country’s most important military alliance, not as a force multiplier with allies but as a drain on American resources by freeloaders.

While in office, he repeatedly threatened to withdraw from NATO, and his campaign website says he plans to “finish” the process of “fundamentally re-evaluating NATO’s purpose and NATO’s mission.” He and his team have refused to elaborate on that cryptic line, fueling widespread anxiety that his return to power could mean ending or gutting the alliance.

 

Trump wants to use U.S. troops on domestic soil.

Mr. Trump could also deploy federal troops inside the United States. While it is generally illegal to use the military for domestic law enforcement purposes, a law called the Insurrection Act creates an exception. His top immigration adviser has said that in a second term, they would invoke the Insurrection Act at the southern border to use soldiers as immigration agents.

After some anti-police-violence demonstrations in 2020 became riots, Mr. Trump had an order drafted to use troops to crack down on protesters in Washington. He never signed it. But the prospect of using federal troops to enforce order on domestic soil continues to entice him. Mr. Trump also suggested at a rally in Iowa this year that he intends to unilaterally send troops into Democratic-run cities.

Trump allies want fewer checks to restrain him.

Forces that somewhat contained Mr. Trump’s autocratic tendencies in his first term — staff members who saw their job as sometimes restraining him, a few congressional Republicans episodically willing to criticize or oppose him, a partisan balance on the Supreme Court that occasionally ruled against him — would all be weaker in a second term. As a result, his and his advisers’ more extreme policy plans would have a greater prospect of becoming reality.

 

 

I read this...how could one not. The font is kid sized.

Terminate the Constitution? Ya...rather unlikely.

That he is talking about treating the Libbies to a taste of their own medicine...sound fair to me. I mean...if they have nothing to hide...why be concerned? Right?

Gutting NATO? OH MY! Gut the organization that's become a global joke. An excuse to mug taxpayers because...EVERYONE KNOWS Putin desperately wants the Polaks back.

Its amazing how hard the NYT tries to drum up fear and loathing. I guess its because their so...inclusive.

Well I've had fun. You? We'll have to have more of these chats. Been a slice.

[herbie]

Here goes the Chorus

Noooo! You're all the deranged ones... (AKA I know you are nut what am I - the intellectual level of MAGAs)

 

[Nationalist]

15 minutes ago, herbie said:

Here goes the Chorus

Noooo! You're all the deranged ones... (AKA I know you are nut what am I - the intellectual level of MAGAs)

 

As opposed to this? Spud?

[impartialobserver]

I admit to reading the NYT often. However, I usually skip the first section entirely. I read it mainly for the sunday NYT magazine, the book review, the business section, and the arts. Rarely do I bother with the front page or the Opinion section for this exact reason. Ok, so you do not like Trump.... I get it. Do not need to read this thousands of times. 

[robosmith]

Just now, impartialobserver said:

I admit to reading the NYT often. However, I usually skip the first section entirely. I read it mainly for the sunday NYT magazine, the book review, the business section, and the arts. Rarely do I bother with the front page or the Opinion section for this exact reason. Ok, so you do not like Trump.... I get it. Do not need to read this thousands of times. 

Don't want to keep up with the thousands of REASONS for understanding that Trump is a despicable human who is unfit to lead the nation? Understandable.

Though it is that level of denial and ignorance which allows the MAGA CULT to continue to exist and vote for him.