August1991 Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 The civilised world collapsed in summer 1914 because an elite was clueless. The US must agree to peace in Ukraine. The US must agree that Taiwan is part of China. Israel, Lebanon? A distraction. ==== Truman and Kennan- not Roosevelt - created a world of peace in 1945. We have many environmental issues. True, I agree. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 19 hours ago, August1991 said: The civilised world collapsed in summer 1914 because an elite was clueless. The US must agree to peace in Ukraine. The US must agree that Taiwan is part of China. Israel, Lebanon? A distraction. ==== Truman and Kennan- not Roosevelt - created a world of peace in 1945. We have many environmental issues. True, I agree. What is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted February 17 Author Report Share Posted February 17 On 2/14/2024 at 6:33 PM, Nationalist said: What is this? For a century after 1815, there was a structure of peace between States - and as a result, ordinary people lived far better. We discovered so much. I am thankful that the US and NATO defeated the Soviet Union in 1989. In 2020, we need a new structure of peace. We have many problems to solve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 18 hours ago, August1991 said: For a century after 1815, there was a structure of peace between States - and as a result, ordinary people lived far better. We discovered so much. I am thankful that the US and NATO defeated the Soviet Union in 1989. In 2020, we need a new structure of peace. We have many problems to solve. One major problem is the USA thinks they can police the world, while internally the USA rots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted February 21 Author Report Share Posted February 21 On 2/17/2024 at 2:45 PM, Nationalist said: One major problem is the USA thinks they can police the world, while internally the USA rots. Disagree. You Americans have your own way of solving problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted February 21 Author Report Share Posted February 21 (edited) Let me explain. In your own way, you Americans will solve your rising/increasing government debt-to-GDP problem. And since Clinton, Bush, Obama, you Americans will stop your world police/change the world obsession. ==== The rest of the world does not care if Trump is your president. Edited February 21 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 I listened to Biden's speech of March 2024. To me, Biden wants to impose America on the rest of us. ===== Like 1814 or so,, we now have a wonderful chance to create peace for a century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 On 2/13/2024 at 8:04 PM, August1991 said: The civilised world collapsed in summer 1914 because an elite was clueless. The US must agree to peace in Ukraine. The US must agree that Taiwan is part of China. Israel, Lebanon? A distraction. ==== Truman and Kennan- not Roosevelt - created a world of peace in 1945. We have many environmental issues. True, I agree. Nice of you not to give the people of Ukraine or Taiwan any say in the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: Nice of you not to give the people of Ukraine or Taiwan any say in the matter. We no longer face the Soviets. Reagan won. ===== We now live in a multipolar world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 (edited) 23 minutes ago, August1991 said: We no longer face the Soviets. Reagan won. ===== We now live in a multipolar world. So we now live in a world where people don't have the right to determine their own future? Is that what Reagan intended? Unlike the current GOP, I don't believe Reagan would have turned his back on Ukraine or Taiwan. Edited March 9 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 12 minutes ago, Aristides said: So we now live in a world where people don't have the right to determine their own future? Is that what Reagan intended? Aristides, Let each State decide its own affairs. In 2024, we are in a place to create a century of place. Like in 1815, States must make arrangements so that ordinary people can live well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Just now, August1991 said: Aristides, Let each State decide its own affairs. In 2024, we are in a place to create a century of place. Like in 1815, States must make arrangements so that ordinary people can live well. I think the opposite is true. Russia will not stop with Ukraine and China will not stop with Taiwan. They are already building artificial islands and claiming the whole South China Sea as territorial waters even though it borders the Philippines, Viet Nam and Indonesia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 1 minute ago, Aristides said: I think the opposite is true. Russia will not stop with Ukraine and China will not stop with Taiwan. They are already building artificial islands and claiming the whole South China Sea as territorial waters even though it borders the Philippines, Viet Nam and Indonesia. Aristides, Putin is no Hitler To me, this Ukraine War is like the Balkan Wars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 (edited) 13 hours ago, August1991 said: Aristides, Putin is no Hitler To me, this Ukraine War is like the Balkan Wars Putin wants to rebuild the Russian Empire, he is ex KGB. The people of Ukraine don't give a crap what you think, it's their country, not yours. Edited March 9 by Aristides 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 (edited) What a load of bullshit: just give it all to psycho bandits and hope they'll leave you in peace. Or now that they see that you're weak they'll come for more. Every time. Which one would it be? Guess. Centuries, millennia of memories, expeience: all for nothing. Yes it's possible: just look. Edited March 10 by myata 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted April 26 Author Report Share Posted April 26 On 3/9/2024 at 12:27 PM, Aristides said: Putin wants to rebuild the Russian Empire, he is ex KGB. The people of Ukraine don't give a crap what you think, it's their country, not yours. I disagree. But even if you are correct, we're back to 1815. We need a new order of peace - Kissinger, Nixon style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 28 Report Share Posted April 28 On 4/25/2024 at 9:31 PM, August1991 said: We need a new order of peace - Kissinger, Nixon style What we need and get will be two different things. We need a world in which politicians are under ordinary people's thumbs, not the other way around. What we'll likely get however is billions dead and an intereggnum that lasts for centuries....maybe forever. I figure tardigrades will be the ones piloting starships from Earth one day. Not us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted April 28 Author Report Share Posted April 28 11 minutes ago, eyeball said: .... We need a world in which politicians are under ordinary people's thumbs, not the other way around. .... Gotta love you Americans Disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 28 Report Share Posted April 28 40 minutes ago, August1991 said: Gotta love you Americans Disagree. I'm an Earthling actually. Please get your silly countries off my planet. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 On 4/27/2024 at 11:34 PM, eyeball said: I'm an Earthling actually. Please get your silly countries off my planet. Thanks. Nope, i'm still convinced your from another planet...there is way to much evidence.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted May 1 Author Report Share Posted May 1 On 4/29/2024 at 6:43 PM, Army Guy said: Nope, i'm still convinced your from another planet...there is way to much evidence.... Eyeball, AG, After 1815, there was a structure of peace. Ordinary people lived well from 1815-1914. In 1914, this structure fell apart - the elite killed itself, and for ordinary people, the next thirty years were a disaster. ==== IMHO: We must avoid this catastrophe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted May 1 Author Report Share Posted May 1 Truman/Kennedy/Nixon/Reagan correctly fought and defeated the Soviets. Communism. Reagan can take credit. ==== To me, Nixon and Kennedy had a better understanding of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted May 1 Author Report Share Posted May 1 I was very curious about these questions. I went to these places where Roosevelt met Stalin. Yalta. Potsdam. Truman. I walked around. Looked ==== Like walking around an ancient city ruin, it gives a perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 10 hours ago, August1991 said: IMHO: We must avoid this catastrophe. There appears to only be one leader who operated in the cold war, with any power or inclination to deploy tanks. The NATO Countries can fund others to hold ground. I'm hopeful that he will have to stop and accept his meager, but still illegal, gains. If so, we'll have a much stronger NATO, a global tri-polar geopolitical order, and a much less starry eyed view of Fukyama's so called "end of history". That will be your next 100 years peace. The next century will deal with the global social sphere, environmental challenges and the twin forces of depopulation and automation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted May 2 Author Report Share Posted May 2 On 5/1/2024 at 6:31 AM, Michael Hardner said: There appears to only be one leader who operated in the cold war, with any power or inclination to deploy tanks. .... One leader? This is not the late 1940s with a duopoly. Since the 1990s, America won. Like it or not, we are back in a multi-polar world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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