Nationalist Posted January 18, 2024 Report Posted January 18, 2024 17 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Those are the facts from any source that’s not controlled by Putin. If there are no men of fighting age left ell then surely Russia will win any day now ow, right? This weekend? Next week? Surely by the end of the month? At least make some major gains and capture large sections of new territory right? So what’s the excuse going to be when that doesn’t happen? I mean you’ve been saying “Russia is going to win any day now” for 2 years and all Russia has done is lose a third of a million men with nothing to show for it. And all you’ve done is show everyone what a gullible clueless fool you are. No it's controlled by comic-boy. And you're controlled by a twit with a lisp. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 18, 2024 Report Posted January 18, 2024 6 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Those are the facts from any source that’s not controlled by Putin. If there are no men of fighting age left ell then surely Russia will win any day now ow, right? This weekend? Next week? Surely by the end of the month? At least make some major gains and capture large sections of new territory right? So what’s the excuse going to be when that doesn’t happen? I mean you’ve been saying “Russia is going to win any day now” for 2 years and all Russia has done is lose a third of a million men with nothing to show for it. And all you’ve done is show everyone what a gullible clueless fool you are. Lol... "Ukraine will beat Russia!" Well no...they will not. I've always known that and accepted it. You? Well you're guided by stupidity so ya...there's that. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Moonbox Posted January 18, 2024 Report Posted January 18, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Well no...they will not. I've always known that and accepted it. You? Well you're guided by stupidity so ya...there's that. Is that what you've always known? Did you always know that they'd have stalled out after a few months, and that they wouldn't have advanced for approaching 2 years against a country with less than 1/4 of Russia's population and wealth? I don't think you did. 🙃 Edited January 18, 2024 by Moonbox Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Nationalist Posted January 19, 2024 Report Posted January 19, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, Moonbox said: Is that what you've always known? Did you always know that they'd have stalled out after a few months, and that they wouldn't have advanced for approaching 2 years against a country with less than 1/4 of Russia's population and wealth? I don't think you did. 🙃 I always knew Russia was going to take the Eastern provinces. Go check if you don't believe me. You can try to save face with your excuses. But Ukraine will not take back that region. They should have held the peace deal they had. Now it wouldn't surprise me if putin takes Odessa out of spite. Gee...good thing Johnson talked comic-boy outta that deal eh? Edited January 19, 2024 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
BeaverFever Posted January 19, 2024 Report Posted January 19, 2024 13 hours ago, Nationalist said: No it's controlled by comic-boy. And you're controlled by a twit with a lisp. LMAO you make no sense you fool. Meanwhile dictator Putin just banned the Ukrainian language from schools in the parts of Ukraine he “liberated” Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 19, 2024 Report Posted January 19, 2024 7 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol... "Ukraine will beat Russia!" Well no...they will not. I've always known that and accepted it. You? Well you're guided by stupidity so ya...there's that. Ukraine has stopped Russia’s attempt to takeover the entire country in its tracks and Russia has no way to proceed with its original plan. Even if Russia keeps the territory it stole their invasion has been a disaster. In the USSR’s ten years of fighting in Afghanistan they had 50,000 killed and wounded before they retreated, now they have 6 times that in just 2 years of their invasion of Ukraine you clueless goof. Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 19, 2024 Report Posted January 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: I always knew Russia was going to take the Eastern provinces. Go check if you don't believe me. You can try to save face with your excuses. But Ukraine will not take back that region. They should have held the peace deal they had. Now it wouldn't surprise me if putin takes Odessa out of spite. Gee...good thing Johnson talked comic-boy outta that deal eh? Putin has been trying and failing to take Odessa and the rest of Ukraine for 2 years. He’s not holding back, he’s barely holding on to what what has and his military is losing soldiers by the thousands every week. Not to mention vehicles amd equipment. He in hoc to Iran, China and North Korea up to his eyeballs trying to keep his military afloat. If Ukraine is out ox men and Putin can take Odessa any time he wants “out of spite” then why isn’t he winning any battles or capturing any new ground? He’s just been sending suicide waves of his own subjects to their deaths as cannon fodder with nothing to show for it, how do you explain that genius? He’s made no progress whatsoever since Ukraine’s original 2023 offensive pushed him back across the Dnipro. Of course in you knew Russia would take Eastern Ukraine. Russia did that in 2014 via Kremlin-controlled militias and Wagner mercenaries that Putin created Quote
Nationalist Posted January 19, 2024 Report Posted January 19, 2024 19 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: LMAO you make no sense you fool. Meanwhile dictator Putin just banned the Ukrainian language from schools in the parts of Ukraine he “liberated” I make perfect sense...unless you're a fool. Putin banned the Ukrainian language in schools? Huh...di Jake Tapper tell you that one too? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 19, 2024 Report Posted January 19, 2024 17 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Ukraine has stopped Russia’s attempt to takeover the entire country in its tracks and Russia has no way to proceed with its original plan. Even if Russia keeps the territory it stole their invasion has been a disaster. In the USSR’s ten years of fighting in Afghanistan they had 50,000 killed and wounded before they retreated, now they have 6 times that in just 2 years of their invasion of Ukraine you clueless goof. Snatching defeat from the mouth of defeat huh? Lol...you sure are a silly dweeb. Meh...it's hard to admit you were wrong all along. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 19, 2024 Report Posted January 19, 2024 10 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Putin has been trying and failing to take Odessa and the rest of Ukraine for 2 years. He’s not holding back, he’s barely holding on to what what has and his military is losing soldiers by the thousands every week. Not to mention vehicles amd equipment. He in hoc to Iran, China and North Korea up to his eyeballs trying to keep his military afloat. If Ukraine is out ox men and Putin can take Odessa any time he wants “out of spite” then why isn’t he winning any battles or capturing any new ground? He’s just been sending suicide waves of his own subjects to their deaths as cannon fodder with nothing to show for it, how do you explain that genius? He’s made no progress whatsoever since Ukraine’s original 2023 offensive pushed him back across the Dnipro. Of course in you knew Russia would take Eastern Ukraine. Russia did that in 2014 via Kremlin-controlled militias and Wagner mercenaries that Putin created YOU WERE WRONG! ALL ALONG...YOUVE BEEN WRONG! choke on it Tweenkie-poo. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
BeaverFever Posted January 19, 2024 Report Posted January 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: YOU WERE WRONG! ALL ALONG...YOUVE BEEN WRONG! choke on it Tweenkie-poo. LMAO you’re such a clown it’s hilarious! I’ve been wrong about what exactly? I haven’t been wrong about anything! YOU are the one whose been saying all along that Russia will win any day now. You’ve been wrong this whole time and you’re still wrong! But here’s a treat for delusional mind: They’re Just Choosing Where To Die.’ When Russia’s Poorly-Trained Stormtroopers Retreat, Russian Barrier Troops Gun Them Down. ‘Death awaits them behind and in front.’ Along the most critical axes of Russia’s faltering winter offensive in Ukraine, Ukrainian defenders are inflicting devastating casualties on Russian attackers. It’s possible that, around Avdiivka in northeastern Ukraine, the Russian 2nd and 41st Combined Arms Armies are losing 10 troops for every one Ukrainian casualty. Many people might struggle to understand why the Russians would keep fighting when every assault is virtual suicide for the soldiers at the front of the attack. But remember: many Russian assault troops don’t have a choice. If the Ukrainian army doesn’t get them, their own army might. That’s because, 23 months into Russia’s wider war on Ukraine, Russian regiments and brigades routinely deploy “blocking” or “barrier” troops whose job is to, ahem, “encourage” Storm-Z assault units to keep advancing. In World War II, blocking units sometimes shot retreating Soviet troops. More often, they arrested them and sent them back to the front. While it’s possible today’s blocking or barrier troops usually function as de facto military police—arresting retreating Storm-Z troops rather than killing them—there is evidence of barrier troops opening fire on their countrymen. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/18/theyre-just-choosing-where-to-die-when-russias-poorly-trained-stormtroopers-retreat-russian-barrier-troops-gun-them-down/?sh=1fc4a3c075a0 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 19, 2024 Report Posted January 19, 2024 8 hours ago, BeaverFever said: LMAO you’re such a clown it’s hilarious! I’ve been wrong about what exactly? I haven’t been wrong about anything! YOU are the one whose been saying all along that Russia will win any day now. You’ve been wrong this whole time and you’re still wrong! But here’s a treat for delusional mind: They’re Just Choosing Where To Die.’ When Russia’s Poorly-Trained Stormtroopers Retreat, Russian Barrier Troops Gun Them Down. ‘Death awaits them behind and in front.’ Along the most critical axes of Russia’s faltering winter offensive in Ukraine, Ukrainian defenders are inflicting devastating casualties on Russian attackers. It’s possible that, around Avdiivka in northeastern Ukraine, the Russian 2nd and 41st Combined Arms Armies are losing 10 troops for every one Ukrainian casualty. Many people might struggle to understand why the Russians would keep fighting when every assault is virtual suicide for the soldiers at the front of the attack. But remember: many Russian assault troops don’t have a choice. If the Ukrainian army doesn’t get them, their own army might. That’s because, 23 months into Russia’s wider war on Ukraine, Russian regiments and brigades routinely deploy “blocking” or “barrier” troops whose job is to, ahem, “encourage” Storm-Z assault units to keep advancing. In World War II, blocking units sometimes shot retreating Soviet troops. More often, they arrested them and sent them back to the front. While it’s possible today’s blocking or barrier troops usually function as de facto military police—arresting retreating Storm-Z troops rather than killing them—there is evidence of barrier troops opening fire on their countrymen. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/18/theyre-just-choosing-where-to-die-when-russias-poorly-trained-stormtroopers-retreat-russian-barrier-troops-gun-them-down/?sh=1fc4a3c075a0 Lol...riiight... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
BeaverFever Posted January 19, 2024 Report Posted January 19, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol...riiight... Another dose of reality you can’t handle Here’s another one which sort of praises Russian abilities in certain areas so now you’ll have to tell me half the sentence is right amd half the sentence is “fake news” lol Ukraine drives Russia back out of a most crucial territory Namely, the electromagnetic spectrum The Russian military’s electronic-warfare capability was the envy of the world. Emphasis on was. In 23 months of hard fighting, Ukrainian forces have not only blunted the Russians’ electronic advantage – on key battlefields, they’ve tilted it in their own favor. … Electronic warfare, or EW, is invisible. It’s the practice of tapping, blocking and hijacking the enemy’s radars and radios – while preventing the enemy from tapping, blocking and hijacking your own radars and radios. It’s high-tech work, involving sensitive electronic receivers and powerful transmitters. It’s all about frequencies and wattage, time, space and coordination. After all, if you’re not careful, the same radio noise that might jam the enemy’s communications might also block yourcommunications. EW is expensive, unglamorous and requires a lot of training. So it should come as no surprise that many militaries neglect it. Not so the Russian military. The Russians, and the Soviets before them, had a reputation for fearsome electronic attack and defense. That reputation wasn’t unearned. In July 2014, during the early months of Russia’s initial invasion of eastern Ukraine, three Ukrainian brigades learned the hard way that Russian regiments always fight for the electromagnetic spectrum. … The Russian military arguably had the EW advantage for more than a year. But gradually, and with tremendous effort, the Ukrainians began to turn the electromagnetic tide. When Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi, commander-in-chief of Ukraine’s armed forces, cited his troops’ most urgent needs back in the fall, EW systems were at the top of the list. The first evidence of Ukraine’s new emphasis on EW came late last summer, as its forces prepared the left bank of the Dnipro River in Russian-occupied southern Kherson Oblast for an impending river-crossing operation by Ukrainian marines. Before the marines boarded their boats, Ukrainian EW troops, artillery gunners and drone-operators struck Russian jammers – and jammed Russian drones. The result is that, for several months now, the Ukrainians have controlled the air over Krynky, helping them to hold onto a slim bridgehead in the left-bank town. Kyiv’s EW troops repeated the feat around Avdiivka, a major battleground in northeastern Ukraine, a few weeks later. They targeted the radio-jammers the Russians use to ground Ukrainian drones while setting up their own jammers to ground Russian drones. “The Ukrainian advantage in electronic warfare seems to be holding in this sector,” analyst Donald Hill wrote. “The number of Ukrainian drone attacks have increased. A lot. The number of Russian drone attacks have decreased by the same amount.”… https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/19/ukraine-russia-war-electronic-warfare-ew-electromagnetic/ Russia’s Cash Inflow Plummeted During Second Year of War 2023 current account surplus down from previous year’s record Bank of Russia has forecast end-of-year balance of $75 billion January 19, 2024 at 9:31 AM EST Russia’s current account surplus slumped in 2023, the first full year under sweeping sanctions imposed by the US and its allies over the invasion of Ukraine that have curbed the country’s export revenues. The current account balance — the difference between cash flowing into the country and outflows — amounted to just $50.2 billion last year, dropping from a record $238 billion at the end of 2022, according to preliminary central bank data published on Friday. The decrease was even more than officials expected, and brought the annual surplus to its lowest level since the pandemic that started in 2020.… https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-19/russia-s-cash-inflow-plummeted-during-second-year-of-war Ukrainian Crews Set A Complex Missile Trap For Russia’s Best Radar Plane David AxeJan 16, 2024, On Sunday night, Ukrainian air-defenses shot down one of the Russian air force’s very rare, and very valuable, A-50 radar early-warning planes, likely killing all 15 people aboard—potentially including high-ranking officers. A Russian Ilyushin Il-22 command plane was damaged in the same attack. … Down one A-50, the Russian air force may have just two of the jets left; the other six A-50s reportedly are in need of upgrade and overhaul. Unless the air force is willing to risk the last two flyable A-50s, it must make peace with its new inability to provide radar coverage over all of Crimea. It must, in other words, accept the risk of continuing—indeed, escalating—Ukrainian missile raids on Russian forces on the peninsula. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/16/ukrainian-crews-set-a-complex-missile-trap-for-russias-best-radar-plane/?sh=bcef96d3566a Edited January 19, 2024 by BeaverFever Quote
August1991 Posted January 20, 2024 Report Posted January 20, 2024 On 1/18/2024 at 1:25 AM, myata said: A brutal aggressive totalitarian fascist thug. That's a fact. You said it. And according to NBC/CNN, so is Trump. ===== IMHO, we need a new structure of peace. I fear that we are now like the 1910s or the 1780s. An elite was clueless and ordinary people have forgotten. Quote
myata Posted January 20, 2024 Author Report Posted January 20, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, August1991 said: new structure of peace With fascist dictator thugs? That our ancestors never considered, their bad? Yes you can have that kind of peace: by being rolled into the dust and paved over with dictator's concrete. You can always choose this option. Others do not exist though, in the sane world. Edited January 20, 2024 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
August1991 Posted January 20, 2024 Report Posted January 20, 2024 29 minutes ago, myata said: With fascist dictator thugs? That our ancestors never considered... In 1910 or so, many young men lived - not perfectly - but well. And in the summer of 1914, an elite lead these young men to death ====== We no longer need NATO. Quote
myata Posted January 20, 2024 Author Report Posted January 20, 2024 2 minutes ago, August1991 said: We no longer need NATO Bullshit, more bullshit still more bizarre bullshit: "we don't need NATO". Vlad Putin's itching dream? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
August1991 Posted January 20, 2024 Report Posted January 20, 2024 17 minutes ago, myata said: Bullshit... IMHO, we're not in the 1930s, facing Hitler - or even the 1950s - facing the Soviets. If there is a comparison, it is the 1910s. We ordinary people live well - but our clueless elite is creating war. Quote
myata Posted January 20, 2024 Author Report Posted January 20, 2024 1 hour ago, August1991 said: IMHO, we're not How many moons do you see in you HO window? "Elites creating" or Hitler invading, any difference there? 1 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Nationalist Posted January 20, 2024 Report Posted January 20, 2024 18 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Another dose of reality you can’t handle Here’s another one which sort of praises Russian abilities in certain areas so now you’ll have to tell me half the sentence is right amd half the sentence is “fake news” lol Ukraine drives Russia back out of a most crucial territory Namely, the electromagnetic spectrum The Russian military’s electronic-warfare capability was the envy of the world. Emphasis on was. In 23 months of hard fighting, Ukrainian forces have not only blunted the Russians’ electronic advantage – on key battlefields, they’ve tilted it in their own favor. … Electronic warfare, or EW, is invisible. It’s the practice of tapping, blocking and hijacking the enemy’s radars and radios – while preventing the enemy from tapping, blocking and hijacking your own radars and radios. It’s high-tech work, involving sensitive electronic receivers and powerful transmitters. It’s all about frequencies and wattage, time, space and coordination. After all, if you’re not careful, the same radio noise that might jam the enemy’s communications might also block yourcommunications. EW is expensive, unglamorous and requires a lot of training. So it should come as no surprise that many militaries neglect it. Not so the Russian military. The Russians, and the Soviets before them, had a reputation for fearsome electronic attack and defense. That reputation wasn’t unearned. In July 2014, during the early months of Russia’s initial invasion of eastern Ukraine, three Ukrainian brigades learned the hard way that Russian regiments always fight for the electromagnetic spectrum. … The Russian military arguably had the EW advantage for more than a year. But gradually, and with tremendous effort, the Ukrainians began to turn the electromagnetic tide. When Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi, commander-in-chief of Ukraine’s armed forces, cited his troops’ most urgent needs back in the fall, EW systems were at the top of the list. The first evidence of Ukraine’s new emphasis on EW came late last summer, as its forces prepared the left bank of the Dnipro River in Russian-occupied southern Kherson Oblast for an impending river-crossing operation by Ukrainian marines. Before the marines boarded their boats, Ukrainian EW troops, artillery gunners and drone-operators struck Russian jammers – and jammed Russian drones. The result is that, for several months now, the Ukrainians have controlled the air over Krynky, helping them to hold onto a slim bridgehead in the left-bank town. Kyiv’s EW troops repeated the feat around Avdiivka, a major battleground in northeastern Ukraine, a few weeks later. They targeted the radio-jammers the Russians use to ground Ukrainian drones while setting up their own jammers to ground Russian drones. “The Ukrainian advantage in electronic warfare seems to be holding in this sector,” analyst Donald Hill wrote. “The number of Ukrainian drone attacks have increased. A lot. The number of Russian drone attacks have decreased by the same amount.”… https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/19/ukraine-russia-war-electronic-warfare-ew-electromagnetic/ Russia’s Cash Inflow Plummeted During Second Year of War 2023 current account surplus down from previous year’s record Bank of Russia has forecast end-of-year balance of $75 billion January 19, 2024 at 9:31 AM EST Russia’s current account surplus slumped in 2023, the first full year under sweeping sanctions imposed by the US and its allies over the invasion of Ukraine that have curbed the country’s export revenues. The current account balance — the difference between cash flowing into the country and outflows — amounted to just $50.2 billion last year, dropping from a record $238 billion at the end of 2022, according to preliminary central bank data published on Friday. The decrease was even more than officials expected, and brought the annual surplus to its lowest level since the pandemic that started in 2020.… https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-19/russia-s-cash-inflow-plummeted-during-second-year-of-war Ukrainian Crews Set A Complex Missile Trap For Russia’s Best Radar Plane David AxeJan 16, 2024, On Sunday night, Ukrainian air-defenses shot down one of the Russian air force’s very rare, and very valuable, A-50 radar early-warning planes, likely killing all 15 people aboard—potentially including high-ranking officers. A Russian Ilyushin Il-22 command plane was damaged in the same attack. … Down one A-50, the Russian air force may have just two of the jets left; the other six A-50s reportedly are in need of upgrade and overhaul. Unless the air force is willing to risk the last two flyable A-50s, it must make peace with its new inability to provide radar coverage over all of Crimea. It must, in other words, accept the risk of continuing—indeed, escalating—Ukrainian missile raids on Russian forces on the peninsula. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/16/ukrainian-crews-set-a-complex-missile-trap-for-russias-best-radar-plane/?sh=bcef96d3566a Nice book. But none of this means jack-shit and most of its bullshit. You really should give it up. It's obvious how this will end. And Ukraine winning back any of what they've lost, is just a pipedream. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
BeaverFever Posted January 20, 2024 Report Posted January 20, 2024 21 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Nice book. But none of this means jack-shit and most of its bullshit. You really should give it up. It's obvious how this will end. And Ukraine winning back any of what they've lost, is just a pipedream. They may not win back 100% of what Russia stole but they’ve already won back much of it. As for it being “bullshit” you have no reason to actually believe that, it’s not like you have any knowledge or info that contradicts it. It’s contradictory to your preference narrative, so like a good Putin Puppet and many MAGA turds in general you just dismiss any inconvenient truth as fake news Quote
Nationalist Posted January 20, 2024 Report Posted January 20, 2024 21 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: They may not win back 100% of what Russia stole but they’ve already won back much of it. As for it being “bullshit” you have no reason to actually believe that, it’s not like you have any knowledge or info that contradicts it. It’s contradictory to your preference narrative, so like a good Putin Puppet and many MAGA turds in general you just dismiss any inconvenient truth as fake news Put in is no angel, but he is gonna be Russian president for the foreseeable future. You can toss all you ad homin attacks you like. None of it is based on reality. Comic-boy's big counteroffensive was a flop. Now they have no men left to send in to die, so he's begging eu nations to send all those brave Ukrainians who ran away, to send them back to die. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
BeaverFever Posted January 20, 2024 Report Posted January 20, 2024 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Put in is no angel, but he is gonna be Russian president for the foreseeable future. You can toss all you ad homin attacks you like. None of it is based on reality. Comic-boy's big counteroffensive was a flop. Now they have no men left to send in to die, so he's begging eu nations to send all those brave Ukrainians who ran away, to send them back to die. So Russia’s top-of the line T-90M Main Battle Tank can easily defeat an Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV)like the US-made Bradley that’s been supplied to Ukraine An IFV is not meant to take on tanks and its relatively tiny 25mm gun can barely scratch the paint on the T-90 while the Russian T-90 could easily incinerate a Bradley with a single shot from its mighty 125mm gun, one on the biggest tank guns on any battlefield. And yet… In this video that has gone viral this week a top-of-the-line Russian T90M encounters a Ukrainian Bradley crew who probably should have fled from the mighty Russian tank. Instead the overmatched Ukrainians courageously pressed the attack and used aggression and skill to defeat the dazed and confused Russians who clearly had none of those attributes. As it’s getting pounded by the Ukrainian Bradley the Russian tank freezes and only manages to get off one shot, which misses completely, then as the rain of Bradley rounds finally starts to take its toll on the Russian Armour, the Russian turret starts spinning round and round wildly out of control as the tank crashes into a tree and the Russians bail out and make a run for it. This is like David knocking out Goliath with hurricane of rabbit-punches and is a perfect example of why Ukraine isn’t doomed: their soldiers have superior training, skill and motivation while the Russian army is made up of poorly trained, poorly motivated conscripts taken from prisons and street corners. Watch and weep: Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 20, 2024 Report Posted January 20, 2024 (edited) 34 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: while the Russian army is made up of poorly trained, poorly motivated conscripts taken from prisons and street corners To wit: A Grenade-Armed Ukrainian Drone Spotted Two Russian Soldiers. One Russian Lit A Smoke, And Asked The Drone-Operator To Kill His Comrade First. …It’s a story with terror, cowardice, betrayal, cruel determination ... and exploding heads... Both Russians know the UAV is there. One cowers on his side, quaking and covering his head. The other calmly sits, puffs on a cigarette and makes eye contact with the drone’s operator through the machine’s camera. The smoking Russian gestures toward his cowering comrade. Kill him, not me. The drone-operator obliges, at first. As the smoker watches from just a few feet away, the drone drops its grenade directly onto the cowering soldier—and explodes his head. Maybe the drone carried just one grenade. Maybe the smoker believed that, if the drone expended its grenade on the frightened soldier, he—the smoker—would live. Or maybe the drone had more than one grenade, and the smoker was desperate to live just a short while longer, and at any moral cost. In any event, the merciless Ukrainian drone-operator doesn’t spare the smoker. Either dropping a second grenade or handing off the mission to a second drone, they line up for a strike on the smoker. The Russian climbs to his feet, appearing to favor what might be an injured leg, and manages to take a couple of steps before the drone’s grenade explodes underfoot… There’s a cut in the border service’s video, implying a time jump as the same drone, or a back-up, returns to drop a third grenade on the now unmoving smoker. His head explodes, just like the head of the comrade he betrayed also exploded a few minutes earlier. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/02/a-grenade-armed-ukrainian-drone-spotted-two-russian-soldiers-one-russian-lit-a-smoke-and-asked-the-drone-operator-to-kill-his-comrade-first/?sh=357087d85098 Edited January 20, 2024 by BeaverFever Quote
OftenWrong Posted January 20, 2024 Report Posted January 20, 2024 14 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: To wit: A Grenade-Armed Ukrainian Drone Spotted Two Russian Soldiers. One Russian Lit A Smoke, And Asked The Drone-Operator To Kill His Comrade First. …It’s a story with terror, cowardice, betrayal, cruel determination ... and exploding heads... Both Russians know the UAV is there. One cowers on his side, quaking and covering his head. The other calmly sits, puffs on a cigarette and makes eye contact with the drone’s operator through the machine’s camera. The smoking Russian gestures toward his cowering comrade. Kill him, not me. The drone-operator obliges, at first. As the smoker watches from just a few feet away, the drone drops its grenade directly onto the cowering soldier—and explodes his head. Maybe the drone carried just one grenade. Maybe the smoker believed that, if the drone expended its grenade on the frightened soldier, he—the smoker—would live. Or maybe the drone had more than one grenade, and the smoker was desperate to live just a short while longer, and at any moral cost. In any event, the merciless Ukrainian drone-operator doesn’t spare the smoker. Either dropping a second grenade or handing off the mission to a second drone, they line up for a strike on the smoker. The Russian climbs to his feet, appearing to favor what might be an injured leg, and manages to take a couple of steps before the drone’s grenade explodes underfoot… There’s a cut in the border service’s video, implying a time jump as the same drone, or a back-up, returns to drop a third grenade on the now unmoving smoker. His head explodes, just like the head of the comrade he betrayed also exploded a few minutes earlier. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/02/a-grenade-armed-ukrainian-drone-spotted-two-russian-soldiers-one-russian-lit-a-smoke-and-asked-the-drone-operator-to-kill-his-comrade-first/?sh=357087d85098 Wow, that's so cool. Did you replay that on your computer video game, "Call of Duty"? Quote
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