I think there are a few that need reminding they are crossing the line on here at times.

[TreeBeard]

27 minutes ago, blackbird said:

They don't believe what I said from the Bible anyway, so why would that be a big thing?  Only if someone is unsure and the idea of hell scares them, right?  You are contradicting yourself. 

By that reasoning, you must believe the insults that were levelled at you are true, otherwise it wouldn’t be a big thing, right?

27 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Does it scare you? 

Why would it?  I’m heading upstairs!  
I used it as an example of your hypocrisy, not as something that I consider scary.  

 

27 minutes ago, blackbird said:

It is just a part of religious beliefs and therefore a legitimate part of conversation.

You can have religious beliefs that you should only hire someone at your hotdog stand who has never had sex before marriage, but you would be breaking labour laws and it would be an actual human rights violation.   Not this made up nonsense you’re pulling out of your ass because your feelings are hurt. 

 

27 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Give us a list of the subjects that you think are forbidden to speak about.  We will check the BC Human Rights Code and see if they are forbidden.

There are no forbidden subjects.  We’re discussing YOUR claims that some insults violated YOUR human rights.  I don’t think anything anyone says on this site, no matter how vile or stupid, violates my rights.  
 

 

Edited September 27, 2023 by TreeBeard

[Army Guy]

3 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

You can change your religion tomorrow.   People do everyday.  Conflating religious ideas with being gay is apples and oranges.  
 

Regarding violent language, I have no idea what you’re talking about. 

Actually you can change your gender every second if you want to,

but that was not my point , If words can be considered hurtful, even a matter of life and death, according to the LGBTQ community, why does one community get this protection, and all the others do not...such as the religious community...

[TreeBeard]

Just now, Army Guy said:

Actually you can change your gender every second if you want to,

but that was not my point , If words can be considered hurtful, even a matter of life and death, according to the LGBTQ community, why does one community get this protection, and all the others do not...such as the religious community...

I have no idea what you’re blathering about….   you can say all the anti-LGBTQ2S+ nonsense you’d like.  @blackbird and others say vile, hurtful things about that community all the time and aren’t arrested for it.   

[Army Guy]

20 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

I have no idea what you’re blathering about….   you can say all the anti-LGBTQ2S+ nonsense you’d like.  @blackbird and others say vile, hurtful things about that community all the time and aren’t arrested for it.   

I was not blathering about anything, except reminding you and others what the LGBTQ community has said on national media... a lot of people on this forum seems to agree with or stand up for this community when it suits them, why does other groups not get the same protection. Basically most are saying STFU, and rub some dirt on it, to Blackbird...I guess only certain groups get protection while others are told your a wingnut stfu...

[blackbird]

37 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

By that reasoning, you must believe the insults that were levelled at you are true, otherwise it wouldn’t be a big thing, right?

No, I don't believe they are true.  The name calling and insults are just vile rubbish.  But you seem to support it all and think that kind of language is acceptable on here.   Tell me how you manage to reason that is acceptable if you are in God's good grace?

[TreeBeard]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

except reminding you and others what the LGBTQ community has said on national media

Again, no clue what you’re blathering about.  
 

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

why does other groups not get the same protection.

No idea what groups you don’t think have the same protections or what protections you’re talking about.  
 

Can you provide any actual examples?  

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

I guess only certain groups get protection while others are told your a wingnut stfu...

Examples?

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

No, I don't believe they are true.  The name calling and insults are just vile rubbish.  But you seem to support it all and think that kind of language is acceptable on here.   Tell me how you manage to reason that is acceptable if you are in God's good grace?

The person who insulted you is on my ignore list, so clearly I don’t support anything they say since I don’t even see their posts.  Why did you jump to the conclusion that I support what they say?  
 

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

No, I don't believe they are true.  The name calling and insults are just vile rubbish.  But you seem to support it all and think that kind of language is acceptable on here.   Tell me how you manage to reason that is acceptable if you are in God's good grace?

Well this is going well for you isn't it  

Here's the deal. I reply to very few of your posts mostly because i know you're a religious nut and i'm not interested  in that discussion, and it's not imporant enough for me to get involved most times . Looking back i respond to your religious insanity about 1 in every 843 times you bring it up.

I replied to your post in this case because you seemed to be asking a legit question and i replied with a perfectly legit and polite answer and you were an asswipe back. And you know my policy - if you do that then i have no problem treating you badly.  So - that was your choice.

Further - when you put your religion front and center in discussions then you absolutely invite critisizm of that religion. That's how it works. There is no human rights violation there at all.

If you want to be treated with respect, treat people with respect. If you don't want people to critisize your religion then don't put your religion forward as your argument or discussion point.

Sometimes we bring heartache upon ourselves. Maybe don't do that.

[Nefarious Banana]

Skin thickness 'trumps' skin color . . . every time.  There's nothing on this forum that's worth lighting your hair on fire.

Remember Charles Anthony and his crimped style of moderation?  Anyone want a return to that stifling, overbearing type of control, and childish time-outs, points against, etc., etc.

If you're so hurt about something on this forum, put that poster/individual on ignore.  No big deal.   

[Perspektiv]

12 hours ago, blackbird said:

Something is seriously wrong where a forum has that kind of thing going on. 

But how is this criminal?

Immature, inappropriate, and we are in agreement.

I don't see it as any different as someone cutting you off on the roads and you hoping they get hit by a bus during your screaming match.

Yes, very mean. Criminal? Didn't you engage with them, too?

How if they took down your plates, and you found a dead rat with its head chopped off in your mail box, with "You're next" tagged to one of its paws, this is where you cross a line legally going from shit posting online, to criminal behavior.

What you're eluding to, is someone being mean, which is hardly criminal. 

Its also why you can ignore them or simply remove yourself from the conflict.

Its like my sisters kids feuding, and one refusing to walk away and continuing the argument, then getting hit with the "I hope you f***ing die..You're such a waste of space" and somehow they are now victims, even though they refused to get out of their siblings face after multiple warnings to knock it off by their parents.

That kid crying because of how hurtful what was said to them in such context, would get as much sympathy as a dog chasing a skunk around a block, and finally getting sprayed and running back to their owner yelping like they had just been shot.

[Nationalist]

Huh...all this over a disagreement about capital punishment. I too think capital punishment is a reasonable option for those who prove they cannot live peacefully within society. But the proof must be irrefutable. 

As to insults...I insult people daily in here. A lot of us do. In Alberta's playground and retirement province, the weenies who govern it are trying to neuter people. To turn the society into a bastion of smiling zombies who simply OBEY. That I cannot support.

[blackbird]

Finally figured out how to put him on ignore. Done. 

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

As to insults...I insult people daily in here. A lot of us do. In Alberta's playground and retirement province, the weenies who govern it are trying to neuter people. To turn the society into a bastion of smiling zombies who simply OBEY. That I cannot support.

I would say there are different levels of insults.  Most fall into a lower level category.  His insults were a different level entirely.   That is why Parliament, and any organization have rules on how people can speak to the other people.  That is why we have Human Rights Codes.  It cannot be reasonable to unfairly trash other people.  There has to be a certain level of decorum or respect.  It cannot be a free-for-all. 

 As someone who holds certain beliefs, I found them more offensive.  He is a clever man but uses his ability to attack people that believe in God.  Nobody should have to spend their time reading that.  He says I should simply shut up and not mention the Bible or anything religious.  I strongly disagree because for a Bible believer that is his reason for being.  The powers in the world can be divided between two.  One is the Devil or Satan and the other is God.  God has infinite power and we don't always understand his ways and purposes.  The Devil's power is very limited.  But the people in the world generally follow him.  So naturally the Devil wants to silence Bible believers.  That is what it is all about.  

I also oppose excessive government control or authoritarianism.  But there has to be some level of control of society which we call law and order or we have anarchy.  I don't oppose law and order.  The reason we have businesses in Canada in some places being constantly being robbed, employees assaulted, and windows broken, and property damaged is because criminals are arrested and immediately released by the courts.  This system was created by the liberal-left that blames society, poverty, etc. for the existence of crime and they don't hold criminals responsible.

Edited September 27, 2023 by blackbird

[Nefarious Banana]

3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I would say there different levels of insults.  Most fall into a lower level category.  His insults were a different level entirely.  As someone who holds certain beliefs, I found them more offensive.  He is a clever man but uses his ability to attack people that believe in God with exuberance.  Nobody should have to spend their time reading that.

Yet you complain about his posts, while you've received complaints about yours.  "Nobody should have to spend their time reading that"  . . . also applies to your posts.   Grow up.

 

[Nationalist]

36 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I would say there are different levels of insults.  Most fall into a lower level category.  His insults were a different level entirely.   That is why Parliament, and any organization have rules on how people can speak to the other people.  That is why we have Human Rights Codes.  It cannot be reasonable to unfairly trash other people.  There has to be a certain level of decorum or respect.  It cannot be a free-for-all. 

 As someone who holds certain beliefs, I found them more offensive.  He is a clever man but uses his ability to attack people that believe in God.  Nobody should have to spend their time reading that.  He says I should simply shut up and not mention the Bible or anything religious.  I strongly disagree because for a Bible believer that is his reason for being.  The powers in the world can be divided between two.  One is the Devil or Satan and the other is God.  God has infinite power and we don't always understand his ways and purposes.  The Devil's power is very limited.  But the people in the world generally follow him.  So naturally the Devil wants to silence Bible believers.  That is what it is all about.  

I also oppose excessive government control or authoritarianism.  But there has to be some level of control of society which we call law and order or we have anarchy.  I don't oppose law and order.  The reason we have businesses in Canada in some places being constantly being robbed, employees assaulted, and windows broken, and property damaged is because criminals are arrested and immediately released by the courts.  This system was created by the liberal-left that blames society, poverty, etc. for the existence of crime and they don't hold criminals responsible.

Admittedly, The FOX is a sharpie. I've even congratulated him for his knowledge and positions on many issues. I do believe in Gawd, but I try to not push that on others...as much as I can. Not a Christian mind you...but I do, whole heartedly believe in the source of all life and indeed...all existence. I can't rationally defend or prove my beliefs. Its just something I choose to believe because I can "feel" my own soul and know its existence is of paramount import to me...and to Gawd. The FOX seems to accept that and does not chide me about it. He does so with you, because he knows you'll react and take your belief in the Bible, down a notch or two...which quite honestly, is not terribly difficult.

You're not a "bad" person blackbird. But you do have a Bible Thumper's mentality and that is going to draw a lot of contempt from many. Western civilization has turned away from Gawd and deny their own souls. I think its safe to say, we both find that tragic. But...we cannot force folks to believe as we do. All we can do is acknowledge their freedom to believe as they do, and morn for their ultimate true deaths. Its not easy...but its the only way to get along in this rotten, amoralistic society we have managed to take hold.

My advise...stick to your guns but only pull them when its really necessary. Concentrate on the things you CAN change...like...gender bending for instance. But leave Gawd out of it. Gawd knows already and will do what is necessary to maintain the universe of existence and life.

Edited September 27, 2023 by Nationalist

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

 

As to insults...I insult people daily in here. A lot of us do. In Alberta's playground and retirement province, the weenies who govern it are trying to neuter people. To turn the society into a bastion of smiling zombies who simply OBEY. That I cannot support.

And what does it get you other than some sort of self satisfaction, because it certainly isn't respect?

A personal insult is not an argument, it is just an insult.

[Nationalist]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

And what does it get you other than some sort of self satisfaction, because it certainly isn't respect?

A personal insult is not an argument, it is just an insult.

Self satisfaction. What else could I get from calling a person a M0ron? Its not like the insult is gonna change anyone's position. In fact...it probably forces them to dig in.

But...I do use insults as a matter of course. Maybe I should try to curtail that inclination but...I'm not here for "respect". I'm here to oppose the progressive agenda that is currently imposing suffrage on all humans on Earth.

[CdnFox]

55 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I would say there are different levels of insults. 

And I would not.

And when i was being insulted and called anti jewish slurs and pedophile remarks etc etc  by Contrarian and complained to the board owner i was told in no uncertain terms "too bad'. 

So - you don't get to set the level of 'insults" you think is acceptable and which are not.

I play pretty nice when the other guy does - insult my intelligence by playing stupid dishonest debate tricks or insult me directly and then it's different.

Them's the rules -  act accordingly.

As to your belief in god - you are the one that puts that out on the table. There's lots of people here who've noted they believe in god. But they don't present that as their argument. You do - You put that out there and DEMAND i consider it to be valid.

Which means that your thoughts on the matter are 100 percent open to attack and comment just like any other position.

If you don't want that then keep your religion to yourself.  Because as much as you think you shouldn't have to listen to comments about your belief, I don't think i should have to constantly listen to your delusions about your belief. 
 

If you whip out our belief as your primary arugment all the time don't be surprised if someone smak's it.  And (ironically) God knows i'm not the only one who's mentioned that to you.

Edited September 27, 2023 by CdnFox

[Aristides]

Why do you think insults help you do that. Seems to me it does the opposite.

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Why do you think insults help you do that. Seems to me it does the opposite.

Do what?

[Greg]

On 9/26/2023 at 1:29 PM, blackbird said:

From BC Human Rights Code

What makes you think the board even falls under the jurisdiction of the BC Human Rights code?

On 9/26/2023 at 4:32 PM, ExFlyer said:

Lastly, this is not a Federal Politics issue, this should be in the Suggestions forum.

It's been moved to the Support forum!

[Greg]

On 9/26/2023 at 5:34 PM, Aristides said:

Since active moderation has ceased on this site,  personal insults have become the norm.

Active moderation has not ceased and insults have always been present in some shape or form since the forums inception.

My new policy is that members will not be censored or removed for the use of insults.  Feel free to use them - but also know that your ideas will likely be tarnished and ignored.

The forum is free of porn, spammers, etc - believe me, that takes active moderation on my part...