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Since there is no moderation of comments involving personal attacks, I think it is reasonable to mention this.

From BC Human Rights Code

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3  The purposes of this Code are as follows:

(a)to foster a society in British Columbia in which there are no impediments to full and free participation in the economic, social, political and cultural life of British Columbia;

(b)to promote a climate of understanding and mutual respect where all are equal in dignity and rights;

(c)to prevent discrimination prohibited by this Code;   unquote

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7   (1)A person must not publish, issue or display, or cause to be published, issued or displayed, any statement, publication, notice, sign, symbol, emblem or other representation that

(a)indicates discrimination or an intention to discriminate against a person or a group or class of persons, or

(b)is likely to expose a person or a group or class of persons to hatred or contempt

because of the Indigenous identity, race, colour, ancestry, place of origin, religion, marital status, family status, physical or mental disability, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or age of that person or that group or class of persons.   unquote

Human Rights Code (gov.bc.ca)

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Do you have an example of the purported incident ?

I just received a reply to my post about this issue from the offender.  He totally rejects my reply and reference to the BC Human Rights Code and just adds more insults.  You can read over a number of his comments under this topic:

Time to bring back capital punishment for murder of police officers and prison guards - Page 3 - Federal Politics - Repolitics.com - Political Discussion Forums

 

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2 hours ago, blackbird said:

 

Since there is no moderation of comments involving personal attacks, I think it is reasonable to mention this.

From BC Human Rights Code

quote

3  The purposes of this Code are as follows:

(a)to foster a society in British Columbia in which there are no impediments to full and free participation in the economic, social, political and cultural life of British Columbia;

(b)to promote a climate of understanding and mutual respect where all are equal in dignity and rights;

(c)to prevent discrimination prohibited by this Code;   unquote

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7   (1)A person must not publish, issue or display, or cause to be published, issued or displayed, any statement, publication, notice, sign, symbol, emblem or other representation that

(a)indicates discrimination or an intention to discriminate against a person or a group or class of persons, or

(b)is likely to expose a person or a group or class of persons to hatred or contempt

because of the Indigenous identity, race, colour, ancestry, place of origin, religion, marital status, family status, physical or mental disability, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or age of that person or that group or class of persons.   unquote

Human Rights Code (gov.bc.ca)

No one has ever been prosecuted for insulting someone on a forum.   ? 

Have you ever told anyone they were going to hell on this forum?  (I know you have)   Do you think telling someone that they will burn for eternity for their beliefs meets the threshold of a human rights violation?   If not, why were the insults levelled at you worse?

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19 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

No one has ever been prosecuted for insulting someone on a forum.   ? 

Have you ever told anyone they were going to hell on this forum?  (I know you have)   Do you think telling someone that they will burn for eternity for their beliefs meets the threshold of a human rights violation?   If not, why were the insults levelled at you worse?

Not that i'm a huge fan of black birds preaching, but i have to ask why is it the LGBTQ community can say words can be violent, and a matter of life and death and that is OK even protected by people on this very forum.......my question is why is the LGBTQ community afforded those rights and some how it is ok to make fun of black bird believes.....is it just ok to be gay, but not religious...or just what is in style at the moment...

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29 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Do you think telling someone that they will burn for eternity for their beliefs meets the threshold of a human rights violation?

No, saying someone could go to hell is not in the BC Human Rights Code and I have very rarely said anything like that.  Secondly it is not a personal comment in the same sense as a steady stream of name-calling and personal insults.  The occasional comment in the context of a religious belief is not in the same category at all.   I can understand people on the forum make the odd comment which is questionable, as I have done on occasion.  But this person, has absolutely no restraint at all with his steady stream of name-calling and personal insults.  Something is seriously wrong where a forum has that kind of thing going on.   

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56 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I just received a reply to my post about this issue from the offender.  He totally rejects my reply and reference to the BC Human Rights Code and just adds more insults.  You can read over a number of his comments under this topic:

Time to bring back capital punishment for murder of police officers and prison guards - Page 3 - Federal Politics - Repolitics.com - Political Discussion Forums

 

You are aware this is a national forum, not just BC? BC rights mean nothing outside of BC.

You insult people all the time, telling them they will go to hell or suffer the wrath of you imaginary saviour. Your constant preaching is as threatening as what you are whining about

Lastly, this is not a Federal Politics issue, this should be in the Suggestions forum.

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If you get seriously hurt by something someone said on the internet, you need to leave and go talk to mommy for comfort.

Ignoring people is an amazing superpower. Freedom of speech is an amazing human right. "Reminding" is only needed if you have good reasons to believe you're being threatened IRL and if such threats are found on this forum, which they aren't. If you don't like someone's personal opinion, you don't have to listen to them. You can even mute/block them.

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1 minute ago, ExFlyer said:

You are aware this is a national forum, not just BC?

You insult people all the time, telling them they will go to hell or suffer the wrath of you imaginary saviour.

Lastly, this is not a Federal Politics issue, this should be in the Suggestions forum.

I know it is a national forum.

I don't insult people very often, and nowhere near with the fierceness and repetition of this individual.  He has proven his insults are partly driven by his animosity toward my religious beliefs and therefore it is a violation of the BC Human Rights Code.   You yourself have sometimes referred by my religious beliefs as a reason for your opposition to me and my comments.  So you too also broke the BC Human Rights Code.

The reason I posted under the Federal Politics is because that is where 95% of the discussions and insults take place.  Therefore it is the best place to draw attention to it.  But I can understand why you would want it not to be seen.

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6 minutes ago, Canadian_Cavalier said:

If you get seriously hurt by something someone said on the internet, you need to leave and go talk to mommy for comfort.

I can understand why you would want someone you disagree with to just go away and disappear.  Your name if fairly new on here and some of us have been on here for a long time.   But I have as much right to speak as you without endless insults and name-calling form a particular individual.  Freedom of speech is not unlimited.  When you go beyond debate about a certain subject and concentrate on insulting and name-calling, it is perfectly proper to point that out and explain why it is wrong.  We should try a little harder to treat other people with some respect.

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4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I can understand why you would want someone you disagree with to just go away and disappear.  Your name if fairly new on here and some of us have been on here for a long time.   But I have as much right to speak as you without endless insults and name-calling form a particular individual.  Freedom of speech is not unlimited.  When you go beyond debate about a certain subject and concentrate on insulting and name-calling, it is perfectly proper to point that out and explain why it is wrong.  We should try a little harder to treat other people with some respect.

Gatekeeping the forum isn't a good argument, as I believe there are many site veterans who would agree with my position.

If you think someone is acting unhinged, refute them with facts. If they won't listen, promptly ignore them. The truth will always prevail.

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41 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I know it is a national forum.

I don't insult people very often, and nowhere near with the fierceness and repetition of this individual.  He has proven his insults are partly driven by his animosity toward my religious beliefs and therefore it is a violation of the BC Human Rights Code.   You yourself have sometimes referred by my religious beliefs as a reason for your opposition to me and my comments.  So you too also broke the BC Human Rights Code.

The reason I posted under the Federal Politics is because that is where 95% of the discussions and insults take place.  Therefore it is the best place to draw attention to it.  But I can understand why you would want it not to be seen.

You insult everyone all the time under the auspices of some religious drivel.

If you do not agree or like something you damn them with bible quotes.

Harassment by your constant biblical damnation is a violation of BC Human Rights Code as well. No one should be subjected to constant preaching LOL

This post should be in the proper forum, otherwise you are harassing us with your precept.

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14 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

You insult everyone all the time under the auspices of some religious drivel.

If you do not agree or like something you damn them with bible quotes.

Harassment by your constant biblical damnation is a violation of BC Human Rights Code as well. No one should be subjected to constant preaching LOL

This post should be in the proper forum, otherwise you are harassing us with your precept.

False.  An examination of a number of posts will prove I do not insult everyone all the time.  Your claim is a lie.

I do not "damn them with Bible quotes".  I often quote the Bible to prove them wrong or what I am saying is true.

You don't accept it because of your anti-Bible/anti-Christian ideology, that's all.

I am not harassing anyone.  But I am sure you disagree with me and use the argument of harassment, which is false.

The BC Human Rights Code speaks about one of the grounds of discrimination is religion.  Therefore your argument that you can insult and call names because of my Bible quotes is proof you are breaking the Code.  You are breaking the Code by trying to deny my right to quote the Bible and my interpretation of it.  That is what they do Islamic and Communist countries.

 

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1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Not that i'm a huge fan of black birds preaching, but i have to ask why is it the LGBTQ community can say words can be violent, and a matter of life and death and that is OK even protected by people on this very forum.......my question is why is the LGBTQ community afforded those rights and some how it is ok to make fun of black bird believes.....is it just ok to be gay, but not religious...or just what is in style at the moment...

You can change your religion tomorrow.   People do everyday.  Conflating religious ideas with being gay is apples and oranges.  
 

Regarding violent language, I have no idea what you’re talking about. 

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1 hour ago, blackbird said:

No, saying someone could go to hell is not in the BC Human Rights Code and I have very rarely said anything like that. 

You’re threatening someone with hell based on their religious beliefs. 
 

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Secondly it is not a personal comment in the same sense as a steady stream of name-calling and personal insults. 

It is very personal to tell someone that they will be tormented and tortured for all eternity if they don’t believe a certain thing. 

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14 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Since active moderation has ceased on this site,  personal insults have become the norm. I am reluctant to engage with people who think that is carrying on some kind of a debate.

Agreed.  The ignore function works wonders.  
 

However, would you claim your human rights were  violated because someone on the forum is a dick?

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Funny the timing. At this time in Coquitlam, BC bylaw officers are removing signs from poles promoting a "Whites Only" Mom & Baby Playtime group. That is what such legislation applies to.

There actually are online forums where the laws should be extended too, I've run across several. But this forum though it does often implies and sometimes does cross the line regarding those defined groups is fairly tame.
And much to your disappointment berating those who call themselves conservatives and that Brian Mulroney, Joe Clark, Stanfield and O'Toole were 'leftists' do not constitute on of the defined groups and are worthy of constant harassment.

As do those "ducks" that walk like a racist and talk like a racist but claim "you're the racist" for calling them out.

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This was an extremely sad and depressing thread to read, for many reasons. Not the ones OP think though. I think he is very depressing as a person to get mad like that because someone insulted him anonymously on the internet against his online anonymous persona. I hope he recovers from this hellish experience.

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2 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

You’re threatening someone with hell based on their religious beliefs. 
 

It is very personal to tell someone that they will be tormented and tortured for all eternity if they don’t believe a certain thing. 

They don't believe what I said from the Bible anyway, so why would that be a big thing?  Only if someone is unsure and the idea of hell scares them, right?  You are contradicting yourself. 

Does it scare you?  Mentioning hell is not against the BC Human Rights Code.  It is just a part of religious beliefs and therefore a legitimate part of conversation.  If I said you shouldn't have sex outside marriage, would you say that is personal and therefore not allowed as well?  Give us a list of the subjects that you think are forbidden to speak about.  We will check the BC Human Rights Code and see if they are forbidden.

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35 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

This was an extremely sad and depressing thread to read, for many reasons. Not the ones OP think though. I think he is very depressing as a person to get mad like that because someone insulted him anonymously on the internet against his online anonymous persona. I hope he recovers from this hellish experience.

 

No, I would not say I am mad.  Someone with certain beliefs is expected to be constantly insulted and called names by one or two individuals.  I hope you have some sympathy for them.  They are incapable of rational discussion.  They have certain things they are triggered by, especially when I make a quote or comment from the Bible, and will throw insults and derogatory names out as a normal conversation.  I don't think they could be married.  If they are, their wives must be real silent doormats to be able to stick it out.

The reason I felt this should be mentioned is I came across it in the B.C. Human Rights Code and realized that according to that they really have no right to come on a forum and insult people that way.  They have taken over the forum and nobody with my views can comment without expecting to be trashed.  The forum should be more civilized.

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