Canada looks to take political prisoners in the Crown vs Leich, Barber trial

[West]

All for the crime of opposing the government which Trudeau told us isn't allowed

[Aristides]

Leich and Barber are getting due process. The courts will decide, not politicians.

[Aristides]

Either you believe in due process or anarchy. You can't pick and choose, that is anarchy.

Edited September 5, 2023 by Aristides

[ExFlyer]

They are charged with mischief, obstructing police, counselling others to commit mischief and intimidation., they will get a slap on the fingers.

A waste of everybody's time.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/hold-line-freedom-convoy-organizers-100000255.html

Edited September 5, 2023 by ExFlyer

[Queenmandy85]

Mischief under the criminal code is a serious offence. It is a section that covers things like vandalism among other offences. People mistakenly associate the charge with a prank. If she is convicted, she could possibly get a sentence of ten years in prison. It is unlikely to be the maximum in this case, but if she is convicted, she may face a few years. On top of that, she will carry a criminal record which has its own set of ramifications for her.

She is not being charged with opposing the government.

[Aristides]

Except for murder, no one gets a maximum sentence for anything in this country.

[Nefarious Banana]

14 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Mischief under the criminal code is a serious offence. It is a section that covers things like vandalism among other offences. People mistakenly associate the charge with a prank. If she is convicted, she could possibly get a sentence of ten years in prison. It is unlikely to be the maximum in this case, but if she is convicted, she may face a few years. On top of that, she will carry a criminal record which has its own set of ramifications for her.

She is not being charged with opposing the government.

Would a 'death sentence' or perhaps life imprisonment be appropriate Queenie?

There was no need for Trudeau to enact the Emergency Act . . . that was the start of the resistance by truckers and their supporters.  Trudeau's 'convenient covid' saved him from acting like a leader and meeting with the truckers like a real leader would do.  Disrespectful, deceitful, and all'round chickensh!t . . . . that's the little boy you proclaim as your leader.  Thankfully, there's a possible real leader in the wings waiting to serve Canadians rather than the little boy who serves himself with your ok.

[West]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Leich and Barber are getting due process. The courts will decide, not politicians.

Yeah just like appointing a Liberal Party hack in the EA enquiry was due process lol

53 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

They are charged with mischief, obstructing police, counselling others to commit mischief and intimidation., they will get a slap on the fingers.

A waste of everybody's time.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/hold-line-freedom-convoy-organizers-100000255.html

Apparently crown wants ten years for organizing an effective protest against the looney tune Trudeau 

[Aristides]

12 minutes ago, West said:

Yeah just like appointing a Liberal Party hack in the EA enquiry was due process lol

Apparently crown wants ten years for organizing an effective protest against the looney tune Trudeau 

Doesn't matter what politicians or crown wants, the court will decide whether they are guilty and what if any penalties apply. 

 

[Queenmandy85]

1 hour ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Would a 'death sentence' or perhaps life imprisonment be appropriate Queenie?

There was no need for Trudeau to enact the Emergency Act . . . that was the start of the resistance by truckers and their supporters.  Trudeau's 'convenient covid' saved him from acting like a leader and meeting with the truckers like a real leader would do.  Disrespectful, deceitful, and all'round chickensh!t . . . . that's the little boy you proclaim as your leader.  Thankfully, there's a possible real leader in the wings waiting to serve Canadians rather than the little boy who serves himself with your ok.

She is innocent unless proven guilty. The law provides the penalties in the case of a conviction. She is responsible for her actions.

I always admired Ali. He broke the law and took responsibility.

[ExFlyer]

2 hours ago, West said:

Yeah just like appointing a Liberal Party hack in the EA enquiry was due process lol

Apparently crown wants ten years for organizing an effective protest against the looney tune Trudeau 

I did not read that anywhere in any article I have seen.

Where did you get that information?

 

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trial-freedom-convoy-organizers-tamara-080000863.html

Edited September 5, 2023 by ExFlyer

[blackbird]

Trudeau Rewrites History As He Claims He Never Forced ANYONE To Get Vaccinated | Watch (msn.com)

[blackbird]

5 hours ago, Aristides said:

Either you believe in due process or anarchy. You can't pick and choose, that is anarchy.

 Leich and Barber could be used as the political scapegoats for the governments dismal handling of the pandemic response and the convoy protest.  The two accused actually had very little to do with the protest.  But the government failed completely in the whole thing.  First the Ottawa police never stopped the truckers from parking their big rigs in downtown Ottawa.  The was the first fatal mistake.  Then they did nothing during the whole occupation.  Then the provincial police and the RCMP did nothing for weeks.  The federal government and the Ontario provincial government could have ordered the provincial police and RCMP to do something at the beginning, but did nothing.

It was a relatively peaceful protest apart from the occupation.  Protests themselves if peaceful are legal in Canada.  There was no real anarchy or insurrection.  The Liberals and left are trying to paint it as such, but it doesn't meet the definition.  It was the authorities, province and feds that did nothing for weeks about the occupation.  They could easily have stopped the occupation part from happening at the beginning, but didn't.  Protests happen in many countries, but in the convoy protest, it was the government that completely failed to control it.  They learned their lesson after it was over but it was too late.  Now they are looking for scapegoats.

Edited September 5, 2023 by blackbird

[blackbird]

Trudeau Rewrites History As He Claims He Never Forced ANYONE To Get Vaccinated | Watch (msn.com)

[Aristides]

28 minutes ago, blackbird said:

 Leich and Barber could be used as the political scapegoats for the governments dismal handling of the pandemic response and the convoy protest.  The two accused actually had very little to do with the protest.  But the government failed completely in the whole thing.  First the Ottawa police never stopped the truckers from parking their big rigs in downtown Ottawa.  The was the first fatal mistake.  Then they did nothing during the whole occupation.  Then the provincial police and the RCMP did nothing for weeks.  The federal government and the Ontario provincial government could have ordered the provincial police and RCMP to do something at the beginning, but did nothing.

It was a relatively peaceful protest apart from the occupation.  Protests themselves if peaceful are legal in Canada.  There was no real anarchy or insurrection.  The Liberals and left are trying to paint it as such, but it doesn't meet the definition.  It was the authorities, province and feds that did nothing for weeks about the occupation.  They could easily have stopped the occupation part from happening at the beginning, but didn't.  Protests happen in many countries, but in the convoy protest, it was the government that completely failed to control it.  They learned their lesson after it was over but it was too late.  Now they are looking for scapegoats.

You are entitled to your opinion but the law will decide whether laws were broken and if there should be penalties.

[herbie]

Massive crowd turns out to support Tamara and Chris:

[Legato]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Massive crowd turns out to support Tamara and Chris:

The real people are working.

[West]

6 hours ago, Legato said:

The real people are working.

An attack on the working class just like all of Trudeau's policies. Sick person

[West]

9 hours ago, blackbird said:

Trudeau Rewrites History As He Claims He Never Forced ANYONE To Get Vaccinated | Watch (msn.com)

Good to see you come around 

[myata]

21 hours ago, Aristides said:

due process

In Canada? Two years of unlimited and unbounded arbitrary rule, with courts" looking the other way? Democracy is not a formal shell: it's principle; independence; and justice understood and shared by citizens.

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, myata said:

In Canada? Two years of unlimited and unbounded arbitrary rule, with courts" looking the other way? Democracy is not a formal shell: it's principle; independence; and justice understood and shared by citizens.

Courts interpret the law as written. 

[myata]

57 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Courts interpret the law as written

Also constitutional rights of citizens. Also independent courts that understand responsibility to the citizens and democracy. Word is the same, not the same thing though.

[ExFlyer]

17 hours ago, Legato said:

The real people are working.

Same as back when they occupied LOL

[Nationalist]

23 hours ago, Aristides said:

Doesn't matter what politicians or crown wants, the court will decide whether they are guilty and what if any penalties apply. 

 

The crown can't be trusted anymore.

[myata]

Canada does not have independent and impartial institutions of justice. There are no effective limits to what governments can do.