Devon Archer Transcript proves Joe had the Ukrainian prosecutor fired to help end the investigation into his son's energy firm Burisma

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Actually there is evidence biden committed a crime. A business associate of hunter said biden was getting payments and provided emails demonstrating the fact.  The emails referred to biden by another term "the big guy' or something, but the associate swore they were all aware that was biden. 

There are other reports as well.

Emails and "other reports" is NOT evidence. It MAY BE grounds for an investigation to determine FACT, but that is ALL.

Anyone can LIE in an email without penalty. Show us SWORN TESTIMONY like that given to the Jan 6th Committee about Trump that you right wingers REJECT.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

 

And just a reminder - biden had classified documents at his home as well,  and your statement that trump stole them is innacurate - nobody's even accused him of stealing them.  They just say he didn't return them when asked to as required.

Taking without authorization and refusing to return when required is stealing. And lying about not having them is obstruction of justice.

You need to stop pretending you are an authority of US law.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

So once again  - you feel the need to lie entirely about the situation to make your point.

IF you have to lie to make a point, it's probably not a very good point.

IF anyone lied ^here it's YOU.

[Rebound]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I still can't believe Hillary got off, so anything's possible.

You can’t believe Hillary got off because you only listen to news media that tells you what you want to hear.  
 

Who has said that the 2020 US Presidential election was NOT stolen? 
Senate Leader Mitch McConnell. 
Senator Lindsay Graham

Attorney General Barr

Ivanka Trump (under oath!)

Trump’s Campaign Manager

The Secretaries of State of Arizona, Michigan, Arizona and Georgia

The Supreme Court

Over 60 lawsuits

[WestCanMan]

23 hours ago, Rebound said:

Let me get this straight: 

Biden: No evidence he committed a crime. He worked to fire a prosecutor that the entire Western world wanted fired. Not a crime.

Yeah, you definitely don't have it straight but I don't blame you, considering you're a CNN junkie.

1) Zlochevsky was the epitome of a bad oligarch. He was appointed to be the Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources by the baddest of baddies Viktor Yanukovich, and his massive stake in Burisma was a direct conflict of interest. 

Re: Zloch, even wiki says "He is wanted by Ukrainian authorities for attempting to bribe the prosecutors in order to drop all charges against him.^[5]"

2) Biden didn't "work" to do that, he just threatened to withhold $1B in US loan guarantees if Shokin wasn't fired. IE, he used his gov't office for a sweet quid pro quo.

I'll type this slowly so that you can read it: "VPOTUS Joe Biden used the weight of the Vice President's Office to protect a Yanukovich crony/family fried and that benefitted his family far more than it did the US gov't".

3) "The entire western world" didn't want Shokin fired. Shokin just won court orders against Zloch, seizing some of his wealth, less than 2 months before Biden went all-in to get him canned.

Biden admittedly "put a solid guy in Shokin's place" and then Biden's "solid guy" let Zloch off the hook. Zloch is Hunter's sugar daddy.

 

Do you think that Yanukovich cronies should be protected by the US gov't? Do you think that's why Biden fired Shokin? Or was Shokin fired because the Bidens were making $83k/mo from the guy who bribes everyone? 

Edited September 3, 2023 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

There's no weasel room left for Joe Biden. 

He clearly fired Shokin (the guy who had just won court orders against MZ) to protect his family friend/Yanukovich crony, Mykola Zlochevsky, and to protect the family's cash cow: Burisma.

The guy that Biden appointed to replace Shokin let Zlochevsky off the hook. Shocker.

[taxme]

On 8/31/2023 at 4:06 PM, robosmith said:

Says the guy who STILL defends Trump despite the 100+ counts of his FELONY INDICTMENTS. LMAO

Rumors is all takes to muddy Joe, but not even felony indictments touch Trump. sure.

The communist democrats can lay all the charges that they want to against Trump. They will all be dismisses in court. Geez, what makes you Marxist liberals so stupid. You will believe anything that the bought off MSM will tell you. It's no wonder the world is in the shape that it is in with puppet on a string people like you around. 

The Demonrats could have gone after Trump two years ago, but they did not. Now that Trump is running for the presidency, they want to use whatever means that they can come up with to try and nail Trump. The Demonrats are totally scared of Trump. If Trump wins the next election, they know that they asses are all in big trouble. It will be Trump's revenge on these communists. I am looking forward to that day. YAHOO COWBOY. LOL. 

[taxme]

On 8/31/2023 at 5:55 PM, robosmith said:

Have you even READ the indictments? They are quite SPECIFIC and much of the SWORN TESTIMONY evidence from WH INSIDERS has already been presented in the House Hearings.

Was everyone who worked for Trump LYING? LMAO

Trump is not a criminal as of yet until they can nail him on something. Trump is still an innocent man. And it will remain that way. The Demonrats can come up with all of the indictments that they want to come up with, but none will stick. It's all bull shit, comrade. ?

[Rebound]

3 minutes ago, taxme said:

Trump is not a criminal as of yet until they can nail him on something. Trump is still an innocent man. And it will remain that way. The Demonrats can come up with all of the indictments that they want to come up with, but none will stick. It's all bull shit, comrade. ?

Yes or No: Have you read the indictments?

[taxme]

On 8/31/2023 at 8:41 PM, Rebound said:

If there is no evidence that Trump committed crimes, why did four separate grand juries indict him on felony charges? 

They may have indicted Trump, but that is all. The trials have not started yet. Now all they have to do is to try and prove that Trump did anything wrong. Good luck on that one. 

The fix is in to get Trump. They are trying to do whatever they can to try and get Trump before the next election and hopefully put him in their commie gulag. They are all running scared of Trump becoming the next President of the USA.

Those commies know that Trump will nail their commie asses if he gets elected. They are all terrified of Trump becoming the next President. Oh ya, baby. ?

 

[taxme]

7 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Yes or No: Have you read the indictments?

No, and I do not give a shit about them either. They are all made up lies and bull shit. All the indictments will fail and Trump will walk away a free man as he should be. ?

[CdnFox]

On 9/2/2023 at 9:41 PM, robosmith said:

Emails and "other reports" is NOT evidence.

Of course it's evidence, especially when backed by testimony.  In fact that's literally what evidence is.

I keep forgetting how little you know about law.

[Rebound]

22 hours ago, taxme said:

No, and I do not give a shit about them either. They are all made up lies and bull shit. All the indictments will fail and Trump will walk away a free man as he should be. ?

How do you know that the indictments are made up lies if you haven’t read them? 

[taxme]

On 9/4/2023 at 11:02 AM, Rebound said:

How do you know that the indictments are made up lies if you haven’t read them? 

How do I know? Because it is all leftist liberal lying bull chit. That's why. Those Demonrats only know how to lie. No matter how much they try and nail Trump on anything, Trump will be the next American President of the USA. Trump cannot be stopped now. Every time they throw another indictment at Trump, his stats keeps going up. I guess the American people are starting to wake up. Too bad for the lefty liberal/democrat losers. In the end, they will be the losers. Ha-ha-ha. 

[WestCanMan]

11 minutes ago, taxme said:

How do I know? Because it is all leftist liberal lying bull chit. That's why. Those Demonrats only know how to lie. No matter how much they try and nail Trump on anything, Trump will be the next American President of the USA. Trump cannot be stopped now. Every time they throw another indictment at Trump, his stats keeps going up. I guess the American people are starting to wake up. Too bad for the lefty liberal/democrat losers. In the end, they will be the losers. Ha-ha-ha. 

Yep. Let's let the mail-in ballots decide... 

[taxme]

29 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Yep. Let's let the mail-in ballots decide... 

It is believed that mail-in-ballots was the main reason why Joey boy got elected as president in the last election. The Demonrats still want to push mail-in-ballots. Get ready for the Demonrats to commit more fraud to take place in the next election in America. 

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

How do I know? Because it is all leftist liberal lying bull chit. That's why. Those Demonrats only know how to lie. No matter how much they try and nail Trump on anything, Trump will be the next American President of the USA. Trump cannot be stopped now. Every time they throw another indictment at Trump, his stats keeps going up. I guess the American people are starting to wake up. Too bad for the lefty liberal/democrat losers. In the end, they will be the losers. Ha-ha-ha. 

The Judge who signed the Mar a Lago search warrant was appointed by Trump.

The FBI Director who approved the search warrant was appointed by Trump. 
 

Every witness in the cases against Trump are Trump-selected Republicans.  
 

The judge who gave Enrique Tarrio 22 years was appointed by Trump.

The judge who will hear Trump’s Florida trial was appointed by Trump.   

[robosmith]

On 9/4/2023 at 12:40 AM, CdnFox said:

Of course it's evidence, especially when backed by testimony.  In fact that's literally what evidence is.

I keep forgetting how little you know about law.

ONLY when backed by testimony or other CORROBORATING EVIDENCE.

Anyone can write a BULLSHIT email. Duh

Edited September 6, 2023 by robosmith

[Legato]

Just now, robosmith said:

ONLY when backed by testimony or other CORROBORATING EVIDENCE. Duh

Which is exactly what he said.

[WestCanMan]

35 minutes ago, taxme said:

It is believed that mail-in-ballots was the main reason why Joey boy got elected as president in the last election. The Demonrats still want to push mail-in-ballots. Get ready for the Demonrats to commit more fraud to take place in the next election in America. 

The MSM/Dems needed covid and mail-in ballots to get rid of Trump, they ditched covid in 2022 because they needed to pump up the economy a bit before the next election (deaths were up by 30% in Canada and fear porn was down by 99%), now Trudeau and the Dems need covid fear porn for 2023/24. 

[robosmith]

On 9/2/2023 at 8:23 PM, CdnFox said:

Actually there is evidence biden committed a crime. A business associate of hunter said biden was getting payments and provided emails demonstrating the fact.  The emails referred to biden by another term "the big guy' or something, but the associate swore they were all aware that was biden. 

There are other reports as well.

 

On 9/2/2023 at 9:41 PM, robosmith said:

Emails and "other reports" is NOT evidence. It MAY BE grounds for an investigation to determine FACT, but that is ALL.

Anyone can LIE in an email without penalty. Show us SWORN TESTIMONY like that given to the Jan 6th Committee about Trump that you right wingers REJECT.

 

3 minutes ago, Legato said:

Which is exactly what he said.

He said emails demonstrating the fact. That is NOT SWORN testimony which is ACTUAL EVIDENCE IN COURT.

You should really follow the chain instead of demonstrating YOUR IGNORANCE.

[Rebound]

25 minutes ago, robosmith said:

 

 

He said emails demonstrating the fact. That is NOT SWORN testimony which is ACTUAL EVIDENCE IN COURT.

You should really follow the chain instead of demonstrating YOUR IGNORANCE.

You’re right. “I saw an email” is not evidence, generally. 
It could be probable cause to obtain a search warrant to obtain emails, and those emails could be evidence.  
 

Emails stolen from Hunter Biden’s laptop are most likely inadmissible as evidence but if they lead to other evidence, that evidence may or may not be admissible.  

Edited September 6, 2023 by Rebound

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

ONLY when backed by testimony or other CORROBORATING EVIDENCE.

 

Ummm.. no.  Testimony is evidence in and of itself. It may or may not be sufficient for conviction but it is evidence.

And in this case the emails WERE corroborating evidence.

Wow - you managed to be stupid twice in one sentence!  Very efficient of you  

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Ummm.. no.  Testimony is evidence in and of itself. It may or may not be sufficient for conviction but it is evidence.

And in this case the emails WERE corroborating evidence.

Wow - you managed to be stupid twice in one sentence!  Very efficient of you  

Emails are NOT EVIDENCE, dumbass. Anyone can write any BULLSHIT in an email. Means nothing BY ITSELF in court.

You still have NO understanding of US law. Duh

[WestCanMan]

On 9/4/2023 at 11:02 AM, Rebound said:

How do you know that the indictments are made up lies if you haven’t read them? 

To be honest, you already know that they come from liars and criminals, so that should be your first clue. 

FYI there's a really good reason why intelligent people take anything they see on CNN with a grain of salt, right? 

If a guy who was convicted of pedophilia several times offers to babysit your kid, do you let them do it? What if they say that they don't do that anymore? What if they promise? 

It just makes sense to reserve your trust for people who've earned it, and especially not for people who are known criminals and liars. 

[Nationalist]

20 hours ago, Rebound said:

The Judge who signed the Mar a Lago search warrant was appointed by Trump.

The FBI Director who approved the search warrant was appointed by Trump. 
 

Every witness in the cases against Trump are Trump-selected Republicans.  
 

The judge who gave Enrique Tarrio 22 years was appointed by Trump.

The judge who will hear Trump’s Florida trial was appointed by Trump.   

And when Trump get back in the Whitehouse, I would think he'll clean house and begin taking his well deserved revenge.

Enjoy that...

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

And when Trump get back in the Whitehouse, I would think he'll clean house and begin taking his well deserved revenge.

Enjoy that...

And there's the pandora's box.

If trump gets back in and manages to put a few prosecutors and investigators of his choosing in key positions - then he will likely spend most of his free time in those 4 years attacking his 'opponents' and ruining their lives - and what can dems say? They created fake dossiers on him, broke the law trying to pin crimes on him, openly admitted that they were going to investigate him and his family till they 'got him', put out some pretty fake charges initially that were obviously vengence motivated - they can whine if he comes after them but that's it.  And it's not like he'll have to worry about re election.

And then the next dem tries to get revenge and the next republican - that door is open now and it's not likely to get shut.

Oh well.  Might keep politicians a little more clean anyway if they know their opponents will be looking for any reason to prosecute.