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Devon Archer Transcript proves Joe had the Ukrainian prosecutor fired to help end the investigation into his son's energy firm Burisma


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4 hours ago, taxme said:

What makes you so dumb? Trump has not yet been proven guilty of any criminal act. It's all in those Marxist  democrat/liberal minds that have dreamed up all those many false indictments in the hopes of trying to find and nail something on Trump and then be able to put Trump in the gulag before the next election. It will not work.The more that they try and make problems for Trump, the more popular he becomes and his voting numbers go up. 

Even the lying and fake MSM thought that once they could get Trump's mugshot that would be the end for Trump. But not so. T-shirts and mugs with Trump's mugshot on them have become quite popular to buy and apparently it has backfired on the demonrats. Even ordinary black people and black gangstas in the hood are now identifying with Trump. They see his mugshot and they now call him a brother of the hood. How is that for a nice kick in the arse holes of the demonrats. 

The demonrats are terrified of Trump right now and they are trying to do anything that they can to try and get rid of him. They know what Trump will do to them if he becomes the next President. It will be revenge time, baby.  Sadly for the demonrats and lefty liberal losers like you, Trump will never be found guilty on anything. In prison, my arse. LOL.

 

If there is no evidence that Trump committed crimes, why did four separate grand juries indict him on felony charges? 

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2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Joe's a russian? Does that make Hunter a son of a -vitch?  LOLOL

Ok i'll stop now.

Joe Biden is a Russian agent who imposed ultra-tough, crippling economic sanctions on Russia AND he’s sent over $80 billion in weapons and aid to Ukraine.  You figure that out that “Russian agent” theory all by yourself, Sherlock?

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Why is is that in every thread, leftists are outed as lying pieces of shit and they've still never admitted to a single thing, ever?

They can't even be a bit suspicious of Hunter and Joe? It's way past ridiculous now.

There is no decency in these people at all. They are the scum of the earth. 

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49 minutes ago, Rebound said:

If there is no evidence that Trump committed crimes, why did four separate grand juries indict him on felony charges? 

For the exact same reason that the FBI get busted for lying and committing crimes about Russian collusion, and then caught using an entrapment scheme to influence an election, and lied to everyone on earth about the Hunter laptop before the 2020 election, dumbass.

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On 8/30/2023 at 5:50 PM, West said:

It's a nonsensical argument.. 

The guy who's son making millions off Burisma claims the prosecutor who's investigating is corrupt therefore its true. 

And this corruption watch is probably backed by these corrupt companies. About as legitimate as the ACLU in the US or any of these other nutty far left activist groups

The investigation was DORMANT by that time. Meaning NOTHING was being done.

ALL but completely CLOSED.

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On 8/31/2023 at 2:25 AM, Hodad said:

You are a liar. As before, there was broad consensus that Shokin was corrupt. Archer's testimony was specific that Burisma did not want Shokin fired because they had him under control. That is not a circular argument. (I don't think you know what that means, BTW). 

Your premise is that Joe Biden corruptly did Hunter a favor by firing and honest and earnest Shokin who was investigating Burisma. 

This theory falls apart on even the slightest examination.

1. Shokin was not investigating Burisma- had shelved the investigation and actively sabotaged the UK investigation.

2. For these reasons (and others) there was broad, international consensus that Shokin was corrupt.

3. Per Archer's testimony, not only could Hunter not influence Joe, but Joe did the opposite of what Burisma wanted.

 

What is so crazy about you conspiracy kooks is that the western world broadly understood Shokin to be corrupt, US Republicans included. Joe Biden was sent to apply pressure in service of US and allied objectives. You don't like Joe Biden, so suddenly and magically you claim that Shokin was not corrupt, and everyone else is. Fix your brain.

Seems like it's the Giuliani effect. He was in Ukraine trying to dig up dirt on Joe for the campaign and got Shokin to tell some LIES about the investigation still being active to help out Rudy and Trump.

Everyone else in Ukraine said the OPPOSITE; the investigation was DORMANT.

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17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Joe's a russian? Does that make Hunter a son of a -vitch?  LOLOL

Ok i'll stop now.

You're LYING AGAIN. YOU NEVER STOP.

14 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Why is is that in every thread, leftists are outed as lying pieces of shit and they've still never admitted to a single thing, ever?

They can't even be a bit suspicious of Hunter and Joe? It's way past ridiculous now.

There is no decency in these people at all. They are the scum of the earth. 

Not when the suspicions are fed to you by FOS LIES.

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14 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

For the exact same reason that the FBI get busted for lying and committing crimes about Russian collusion, and then caught using an entrapment scheme to influence an election, and lied to everyone on earth about the Hunter laptop before the 2020 election, dumbass.

YOU STILL have NO EVIDENCE of the FBI lying about the Hunter laptop.

Here's the truth: that laptop's contents were legally protected confidential according to Delaware law and leaked to the press ILLEGALLY by Rudy.

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According to The Guardian article, the UK's SFO froze 23M pounds in one of its banks, as illegally acquired during Yanukovich's admin, when Zlochevsky, who was a Minister and the owner of Burisma, tried to transfer that money to a tax haven in Cypress.

Zlochevsky sued to get the money unfrozen, and the SFO had to make a case for keeping the money frozen so it could be returned to the Ukraine government. As part of the case, the SFO tried to get documentation from the Ukraine's prosecutor's office to support the freezing but could get no cooperation. Shokin was the top prosecutor who was the obstacle blocking the documentation release and was "under control" of Zlochevsky and Burisma, until Joe Biden got Ukrainian President Poroshenko to fire him.

So the upshot is, Joe Biden was helping Ukraine to recover money allegedly stolen by Zlochevsky during his tenure as an energy Minister under Yanukovych. Shokin was stone walling the release of documentation to support SFO freezing the money. Because the documentation was never released, the Judge in the SFO case released the frozen allegedly stolen funds to Zlochevsky.

IF Hunter was trying to help Burisma through Joe Biden, it didn't work. And Archer testified that Hunter exerted NO INFLUENCE over Joe.

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4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Well you better get to it then....

If you're asking me to tuck you in or something the answer would be a resounding 'oh hell no'.  :)

You go ask your mommie like a good boy :) 

LOL - god it's always fun to laugh at you ;)  This forum just woudln't be the same without you here for the comic relief.   Duuuuhhh :)  

 

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On 8/27/2023 at 2:51 PM, robosmith said:

I can explain why anything you read in the NYPost is no more credible than the National Enquirer. LMAO

Are you saying the links I posted from the NY Post are false? Hunter did not sell his "art" for $1.3 million? And that buyer did not get a plum government position?

Both of these stories are also on other sites.

Democratic Donor Appointed to Commission Buys Hunter Biden’s Artwork for $1.3 Million: Report (msn.com)

A Mystery Buyer Paid $875,000 for 11 Hunter Biden Paintings (businessinsider.com)

Just because you do not like the source you cannot suggest that anything and everything they write that is unflattering to the Democrats must be false.

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4 hours ago, ironstone said:

Are you saying the links I posted from the NY Post are false? Hunter did not sell his "art" for $1.3 million? And that buyer did not get a plum government position?

As I said, don't know, don't care.

4 hours ago, ironstone said:

Both of these stories are also on other sites.

Democratic Donor Appointed to Commission Buys Hunter Biden’s Artwork for $1.3 Million: Report (msn.com)

A Mystery Buyer Paid $875,000 for 11 Hunter Biden Paintings (businessinsider.com)

Just because you do not like the source you cannot suggest that anything and everything they write that is unflattering to the Democrats must be false.

Lack of credibility doesn not NECESSARILY mean false.

Are you claiming that Joe appointed Hunter's art customer to a non-paid position BECAUSE of the purchase?

Are you claiming that position carries any ACTUAL GOVERNMENT POWER?

What is your position on Trump/Kushner NEPOTISM?

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On 9/1/2023 at 12:33 AM, WestCanMan said:

For the exact same reason that the FBI get busted for lying and committing crimes about Russian collusion, and then caught using an entrapment scheme to influence an election, and lied to everyone on earth about the Hunter laptop before the 2020 election, dumbass.

Let me get this straight: 

Biden: No evidence he committed a crime. He worked to fire a prosecutor that the entire Western world wanted fired. Not a crime.

Trump: Dozens of boxes of stolen classified documents found at his home and solid proof that he lied in a sworn document in order to hide them from the FBI.

But you can't wrap your head around the fact that the false God you worship committed a crime? The man could walk into your house, pull out a gun and shoot your nine year-old kid in the head, and you'd swear he hadn't committed a crime. You are brainwashed, dude. 

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19 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Let me get this straight: 

Biden: No evidence he committed a crime. He worked to fire a prosecutor that the entire Western world wanted fired. Not a crime.

Trump: Dozens of boxes of stolen classified documents found at his home and solid proof that he lied in a sworn document in order to hide them from the FBI.

But you can't wrap your head around the fact that the false God you worship committed a crime? The man could walk into your house, pull out a gun and shoot your nine year-old kid in the head, and you'd swear he hadn't committed a crime. You are brainwashed, dude. 

That was established long ago when WCM denied that Trump is a pathological LIAR.

Based on a LOGICAL FALLACY that if one allegation of lying in a list of 30,000+ is "disputed," the whole list is discredited.

Then his dispute evidence (ABC News video) was used to prove Trump LIED. LMAO

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10 hours ago, Rebound said:

Let me get this straight: 

Biden: No evidence he committed a crime. He worked to fire a prosecutor that the entire Western world wanted fired. Not a crime.

Trump: Dozens of boxes of stolen classified documents found at his home and solid proof that he lied in a sworn document in order to hide them from the FBI.

But you can't wrap your head around the fact that the false God you worship committed a crime? The man could walk into your house, pull out a gun and shoot your nine year-old kid in the head, and you'd swear he hadn't committed a crime. You are brainwashed, dude. 

Actually there is evidence biden committed a crime. A business associate of hunter said biden was getting payments and provided emails demonstrating the fact.  The emails referred to biden by another term "the big guy' or something, but the associate swore they were all aware that was biden. 

There are other reports as well.

And just a reminder - biden had classified documents at his home as well,  and your statement that trump stole them is innacurate - nobody's even accused him of stealing them.  They just say he didn't return them when asked to as required.

 

So once again  - you feel the need to lie entirely about the situation to make your point.

IF you have to lie to make a point, it's probably not a very good point.

 

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On 8/31/2023 at 10:41 PM, Rebound said:

If there is no evidence that Trump committed crimes, why did four separate grand juries indict him on felony charges? 

Here's how stupid these Maga's are. Literally all the witnesses for charges against TRump , was his closest allies, his old lawyers, his cabinet, his best friends  and mostly his own family. Tell me how they couldn't have indited him, and tell me how using those same witnesses against him during the trial , how is any jury going to find him not guilty. He is toast and he will be spending the rest of his life in jail.

Trump is scum and will being going down big with his 100 felony charges against him. He will never see the outside of jail for the rest of his life.

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3 minutes ago, jbander1A said:

Here's how stupid these Maga's are. Literally all the witnesses for charges against TRump , was his closest allies, his old lawyers, his cabinet, his best friends  and mostly his own family. Tell me how they couldn't have indited him, and tell me how using those same witnesses against him during the trial , how is any jury going to find him not guilty. He is toast and he will be spending the rest of his life in jail.

Trump is scum and will being going down big with his 100 felony charges against him. He will never see the outside of jail for the rest of his life.

Another 'boy who cried trump'.

We've been hearing the same bullshit for almost a decade now.  When he's convicted of a crime, we can talk.  But it's not for trump supporters or those of us who are actually NOT insanely invested in hating him to explain anything. that's for a jury and judge and we'll see what they say.

I still can't believe Hillary got off, so anything's possible.

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