Pierre Poilievre, “man of the people “ LOL

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Isn't that what Stephan Harper's Accountability Act was supposed to do?

 

Good lord no. The accountability act was supposed to make more information avaialble so that people could do their job - not do their job for them.

And justin just bypassed all that together - broke the law, admitted breakkng the law, became the first PM convicted of that by the federal ethics commissioner and  you STILL voted for him.

 

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How on Earth did such a dilletantish drama teacher with a banana in his pocket get around it?

He DIDN"T!  He got caught!  SNC was another example - that's one of harper's accountability laws right there and he totally got busted....  and in both cases the liberal supporters said "meh - i don't mind corruption, lets keep going".

Accountaiblity is supposed to be so that voters could hold him accountable - and they refused .

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Where was PP when this so called Act was cooked up?

Optimistically hoping voters would do the right thing when the time came

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Like I said, how does PP turn this ancient duty he's yacking about into a policy that actually does what it's says?

Beats the shit out of the libeals, gets into power, and stops waiting for liberal voters to do the right thing and does things hmself.

IF he's smart there will be an obnibus bill day one that doesn't just defund the cbc but sells it off completely, changes the gun laws to be better than they were before to say 'screw you' to future gun law changes, wipes out half the dumb laws the libs passed like the censorship law  and passes it all in the first 3 months while ignoring the opposition just like justin did.

And i'm sure libs like you will be furious - and conservatives won't care.  If you don't want to vote against that kind of thing when it benefits  you then you get to live with it when it doesn't.  Just like cancelling the cbc  - too late now to complain about losing it. You should have cleaned it up when you had the chance if you wanted to keep it.

[eyeball]

30 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

IF he's smart there will be an obnibus bill day one that doesn't just defund the cbc but sells it off completely, changes the gun laws to be better than they were before to say 'screw you' to future gun law changes, wipes out half the dumb laws the libs passed like the censorship law  and passes it all in the first 3 months while ignoring the opposition just like justin did.

Really? I'd vote for that just for the sheer entertainment value. What on Earth do you call a obnoxibus Bill that links the end of the CBC with looser gun laws anyway?

35 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 If you don't want to vote against that kind of thing when it benefits  you then you get to live with it when it doesn't.

Hey, if PP says it is the way you do, he's got my vote. Just to be clear, if he doesn't that means someone's lying right?

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Really? I'd vote for that just for the sheer entertainment value. What on Earth do you call a obnoxibus Bill that links the end of the CBC with looser gun laws anyway?

Progress.

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Hey, if PP says it is the way you do, he's got my vote. Just to be clear, if he doesn't that means someone's lying right?

That someone would be you.  He's never promised to put forward an omnibus bill like that and i've never said he did promise it.

Of course - being a leftie you feel compelled to lie and pretend someone did though ':) 

[BeaverFever]

On 7/21/2023 at 12:07 PM, Perspektiv said:

Give me a break. She is selling that house for 500k. Nobody has bought it, and it's been on the market forever. 

Does she deserve humiliation?

Absolutely not, but she should get a clue. The house is not selling because nobody with the right mind, would consider shelling that kind of money for a house that small.

That's not her problem, which is why she should not have been dragged into this. Its a market issue. He should have focused on that, and avoiding the name dropping which would distract from the problem at hand.

If you can be pathetic and poor and make 500k for selling a house, I think most Canadians would sign up, tomorrow. 

Also, the house is sized like a shack. Technically its the truth. He just should have kept that to himself.

This is the only thing keeping more people from wanting to vote for him.

I certainly will, no doubt about it as he is better than Trudeau simply based on his competence level. 

1) GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT: The poor woman humiliated by PP is not the owner who is selling the house she is the tenant renting the house, 

2) GET YOUR LOGIC STRAIGHT: If the house is NOT selling because it is listed too high as you state, that would suggest the market is not so overpriced and it is not a public policy problem  or any of PP’s business amd logically the price for the “shack” will eventually come down. Think about it: the problem that PP is trying to illustrate is that “shacks” ARE selling for that price.   I think you got a little overzealous in your PP apologies and are trying to invent an argument that PP isn’t even trying to claim  Also, if you had any knowledge of the GTA / Niagara housing market you would know yes prices are that bad and the problem is that they ARE selling high. Last year we sold our GTA 3br/2.5b house for almost $860k, which we purchased in 2007 for $240k.   Of course we then had to buy a house in the same market so all our profits went to paying for a house at double what the previous owners paid for it in 2005. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

1) GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT: The poor woman humiliated by PP is not the owner who is selling the house she is the tenant renting the house, 

Regardless, this is a house that is way overpriced for the market that it is in. Doesn't matter who is selling it as she is the one confronting PP, on an overpriced house that isn't selling.

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

2) GET YOUR LOGIC STRAIGHT: If the house is NOT selling because it is listed too high as you state, that would suggest the market is not so overpriced and it is not a public policy problem

Or that the house is laughable to those on the market for one, at that rate. The fact the owner could list a house that tiny in that market for 500k and not think twice about it, is ridiculous.

[eyeball]

$10 says the house in question sells above asking price.

[herbie]

Every day PP gives me another reason not to vote Conservative.

[I am Groot]

41 minutes ago, herbie said:

Every day PP gives me another reason not to vote Conservative.

PP could have the most incredible plan for economic recovery and expansion the world has ever known and it wouldn't matter to you. Be honest enough to admit it. Nothing would ever cause you to vote for him.

[eyeball]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Progress.

That someone would be you.  He's never promised to put forward an omnibus bill like that and i've never said he did promise it.

It's what you want to see though and PP wants your vote.

Did Harper lie when he used the word accountability in his obnoxious bill? It certainly didn't do squat to make transparency more effective or prevent corruption did it?

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

If you asked for 2 million dollars worth of real estate in Vancouver they'd ask if you'd like it wrapped to take with you.

Do you want fries with that? 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Every day PP gives me another reason not to vote Conservative.

Can you think of any things Trudeau has done that would make you not want to vote Liberal? For example, things worse than calling someone's shack a 'shack'? 

I'm guessing that you can't. Right now you're rambling off the list of possible answers in your head and it looks like this:

"Socks? Nope, they're cutting edge and shiny

Hair? Nope. His coif is perfection.

Countenance? OMG no, he's so dreamy he makes Chris Hemsworth look like Harvey Weinstain.

Manliness? Fffffuhfuhfuhfuhfuhfuh hhhhoooooohboy. I gotta take a cold shower now.

Only possible answer: "Trudeau has never done anything as awful as using the word 'shack'. Oh my God.""

[eyeball]

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Can you think of any things Trudeau has done that would make you not want to vote Liberal?

Can you imagine never assuming that deciding not to vote for PP doesn't automatically signify support for Trudeau?

It doesn't seem as if any deplorable of your ilk is capable of that.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

$10 says the house in question sells above asking price.

I wouldn't be surprised, but that would further emphasize PPs point.

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

I wouldn't be surprised, but that would further emphasize PPs point.

While putting pressure on him to voice a solution instead of more criticism.

 

[herbie]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Can you imagine never assuming that deciding not to vote for PP doesn't automatically signify support for Trudeau?

Some of us vote for 'balance of power'. The ones that keep the Libs from turning into Tories and the Tories from turning into what people on this forum want them to be. Christian Falangists.

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, eyeball said:

While putting pressure on him to voice a solution instead of more criticism.

 

Taxing people more through carbon taxes, increasing their cost of living, and sustaining the insanely bureaucratic process to building new construction projects, stalling billions of dollars worth of jobs, as well as properties people desperately need, won't help either.

Trudeau's policies are incredibly incompetent. 

PP may not have answers, but I would side with someone who sounds competent, than one who has proven to be the opposite.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, herbie said:

Every day PP gives me another reason not to vote Conservative.

With a closed and tribal mind like yours - his mere existence is enough for you to never vote for him.'

So seeing as He does in fact continue to exist every day, I suppose your comment is true

31 minutes ago, herbie said:

Some of us vote for 'balance of power'. The ones that keep the Libs from turning into Tories and the Tories from turning into what people on this forum want them to be. Christian Falangists.

You don't give two seconds of thought to whom you vote for.  If there was a box marked "Not the tories" you'd hammer it every time.

[CdnFox]

56 minutes ago, eyeball said:

While putting pressure on him to voice a solution instead of more criticism.

 

Not really.  He's given general indications of what his solutions are, but he's opposition.  Opposition does NOT provide detailed plans or suggestions to gov't.  It is political death to do so and the system is not set up that way.

It is the job of the gov't to propose solutions and it is the job of the opposition to test and challenge those solutions in the hopes that flaws and improvements can be addressed before it's implemented.

It's kind of beyond pathetic to suggest that it's the opposition's job to run the gov't due to the current gov't being too incompetent to find solutions.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Can you imagine never assuming that deciding not to vote for PP doesn't automatically signify support for Trudeau?

It doesn't seem as if any deplorable of your ilk is capable of that.

It does these days, unless you're voting for Mad Max  or block if you're in quebec. None of the others matter so it's the same as not voting.

Vote ndp? It's a vote for justin for sure, as we've seen. 

 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

It's kind of beyond pathetic to suggest that it's the opposition's job to run the gov't due to the current gov't being too incompetent to find solutions.

It's kind of beyond stupid to suggest that's what I did.

Where you born this way or did you sign up for a course?

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Taxing people more through carbon taxes, increasing their cost of living, and sustaining the insanely bureaucratic process to building new construction projects, stalling billions of dollars worth of jobs, as well as properties people desperately need, won't help either.

Trudeau's policies are incredibly incompetent.

Nimbyism towards allowing more development of housing is Trudeau's fault too?

And what on Earth do carbon taxes have to do with the shortage of housing?

Nevermind, I get it, every single thing that's wrong with the universe is Trudeau's fault....Ok, I admit I overstated that a little. Just everything in the Milky Way galaxy.

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Nevermind, I get it, every single thing that's wrong with the universe is Trudeau's fault

If you think he's a competent leader, we really have zero to debate about. His popularity in Canada speaks for itself.

You don't hate a leader this profusely for doing a great job.

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

And what on Earth do carbon taxes have to do with the shortage of housing?

Nothing. However, a lot to do with the inflationary effects it has on our cost of living. 

Us having a housing crisis and him wanting to fast track 500k immigrants to come here annually, vs fixing the broken immigration and passport systems, point to the incompetence and poor leadership am eluding to.

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

If you think he's a competent leader, we really have zero to debate about.

FFS....?

I think he's the worst PM Canada has ever had...EVER.

Yes yes I know, you guys all say that means I voted for him anyway.

Yes, I love Trudeau and I'm a liar.

You people do disbelieve me right?

?

Did the entire right wing fall on its head or something - you all seem to be suffering some form of mass hysteria.

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I think he's the worst PM Canada has ever had...EVER.

Yes yes I know, you guys all say that means I voted for him anyway.

Yes, I love Trudeau and I'm a liar.

You people do disbelieve me right?

*backs away slowly*

[SpankyMcFarland]

We should regard politics as ‘a real job’ and a bloody difficult one at that. Give me an over-prepared, well done politician over the barely seared variety any day of the week.