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Posted
1 hour ago, Aristides said:

The  biggest single component of our GDP is real estate. My home has more than doubled since I bought it 11 years ago. Still the same home just 11 years older. Our increase in GDP has little or nothing to do with productivity.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/594293/gross-domestic-product-of-canada-by-industry-monthly/

Well that's scary.

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's right.

They lost me with Mike Harcourt and Glen Clark clinched the deal breaker. No I didn't vote for Gordon Campbell.

Correct me if I'm wrong but these are all pro capitalist politicians right?

Why are people associating them with the left?

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Well that's scary.

Correct me if I'm wrong but these are all pro capitalist politicians right?

Why are people associating them with the left?

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Partisanship.

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Posted
1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Afaik Poilievre has largely ignored the concerns of much of his base about most culture issues. He'll toss off a sentence here and there, but most of his attention has been on the economy, housing, budget deficits, etc.

Really?  

The trucker protests for freedom, the Justinflation, fire the bank of Canada, nobody allowed to go to the WEF, woke woke woke woke.  The dude is a slogan machine. 

Talking about housing, the economy and budget deficits is boilerplate stuff.   

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Posted
3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

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In our case, Pixie-Dust has made such a mess of our tax position and regulations, that investment goes elsewhere.

You keep on and on about pixie dust. Using that term all the time.

Do I take it as you are constantly complimenting Trudeau?

Pixiedust: "a substance or influence with an apparently magical effect that brings great success or luck.

"the folks who live there still seem to believe that they've been sprinkled with pixie dust""

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

Posted
55 minutes ago, eyeball said:
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Your part of the left.

That's right.

 

Amusing :)  LOL

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They lost me with Mike Harcourt and Glen Clark clinched the deal breaker. No I didn't vote for Gordon Campbell.

That's provincial.  But fair enough.  What was wrong with Harcourt? I thought he was reasonably balanced for a leftie

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Posted
39 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

You keep on and on about pixie dust. Using that term all the time.

Do I take it as you are constantly complimenting Trudeau?

Pixiedust: "a substance or influence with an apparently magical effect that brings great success or luck.

"the folks who live there still seem to believe that they've been sprinkled with pixie dust""

LOL...Hilarious...

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
Just now, Nationalist said:

LOL...Hilarious...

Yeah it is. But hey, you keep using it LOL

Time to rethink your insult terms eh??

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

Posted
19 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Yeah it is. But hey, you keep using it LOL

Time to rethink your insult terms eh??

No...I'm good with Pixie-Dust.

It seems to bother you though...

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

No...I'm good with Pixie-Dust.

It seems to bother you though...

Not at all.

I just take it for what it's worth and by definition, you are a Justin fan :)

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

Posted
1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

No...I'm good with Pixie-Dust.

Afer all - Pixie Dust is a substance or influence with an apparently magical effect that brings great success or luck THAT DOESN'T"T REALLY EXIST

And that IS trudeau to a tee - fake, fictional, promises magical cures that don't exist in the real world, makes claims about 'solutions' which will solve everything with magic despite the evidence.

 

Seems to fit.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Not at all.

I just take it for what it's worth and by definition, you are a Justin fan :)

OK...you go with that.

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Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
3 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Really?  

The trucker protests for freedom, the Justinflation, fire the bank of Canada, nobody allowed to go to the WEF, woke woke woke woke.  The dude is a slogan machine. 

Talking about housing, the economy and budget deficits is boilerplate stuff.   

Not happy about the trucker shit, though he does have kind of a point there. Justin Trudeau has most certainly contributed to our inflation with his immense deficits. And the Bank of Canada governor put himself into political territory when he strayed from the bank's job and started talking about climate change.

What's he said about gays and lesbians? Anything? What's he said about immigration? Nothing. What's he even said about how the Trudeau government now prioritizes grants and awards for university grad/doctoral scholars by race and identity instead of science or ability? Has he mentioned how the US courts have tossed out affirmative action (which most Americans are quite happy about) and suggested we do the same? Most Canadians, and certainly any who would be likely to vote Conservative would be happy about THAT. Has he talked about drag queens or transgenders at all? If so it's been something in passing after being asked a question. He certainly hasn't focused on it. Has he defended Sir John A MacDonald? Criticized renaming roads and bridges transit stations into unpronounceable native words?

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5 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Not happy about the trucker shit, though he does have kind of a point there.

Disagree, probably, but I'm not sure what you're referring to.  

5 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Justin Trudeau has most certainly contributed to our inflation with his immense deficits.

Yes, no doubt, and he's making it worse rather than better, with no solutions in sight.  

5 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

And the Bank of Canada governor put himself into political territory when he strayed from the bank's job and started talking about climate change.

Balogna.  His comments on climate change were about mitigating risks from extreme weather and the inevitable shift to low-carbon economies.  You see it as ideology, but this is one of the brightest economists in Canada and his job is to manage fluctuation and try to maintain a stable financial system based on practical realities.  That certain folk deny its happening doesn't make it ideological on his end.  That's on you.  

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Disagree, probably, but I'm not sure what you're referring to.  

They pissed me off at the time. They should have made their point and left. No question. I was quite fine when they were removed. But the way they were treated by the government far exceeded the level of damage and threat they posed. Remember that the natives blockaded the main east-west train line for weeks. How many of them were arrested and kept in jail for months? How many had their bank accounts frozen? How much zeal has the government and its police shown in pursuing those who burned down dozens of churches? The government's view of protesters seems to depend on how much they sympathize with their views.

 

2 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Balogna.  His comments on climate change were about mitigating risks from extreme weather and the inevitable shift to low-carbon economies. 

He and his deputy have both stuck their ores into what was an ongoing political dispute about the value of carbon taxes. 

2 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

You see it as ideology, but this is one of the brightest economists in Canada and his job is to manage fluctuation and try to maintain a stable financial system based on practical realities.  That certain folk deny its happening doesn't make it ideological on his end.  That's on you.  

My only ideology is realism. Anyone who pushes carbon taxes on Canadians without admitting they are going to have ZERO impact on global warming while hampering our economy is a fool or simply dishonest. There are no numbers and no science that contradicts that. The ones who do so are the ones operating by ideology.

Posted
1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

The government's view of protesters seems to depend on how much they sympathize with their views.

Maybe, but then how many of the other protests you referenced were at that scale, happening amidst a contagious public health crisis, and based (mostly) on misinformation and conspiracy theories?  

The Emergencies Act was a joke, but that was a joke that played out across the local/provincial and federal levels.  

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

He and his deputy have both stuck their ores into what was an ongoing political dispute about the value of carbon taxes. 

You'll have to refer me to that, because I can't find anything on it, and even then, so what?  

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

My only ideology is realism. Anyone who pushes carbon taxes on Canadians without admitting they are going to have ZERO impact on global warming while hampering our economy is a fool or simply dishonest. There are no numbers and no science that contradicts that. The ones who do so are the ones operating by ideology.

You oversimplify. I've long agreed that hobbling ourselves with carbon taxes while importing goods from countries who don't do that is just exporting our pollution, but this is something that could be addressed with proper trade policies. 

Regardless of your feelings on the issue, we are transitioning to a low-carbon economy, and sooner than you suspect.  Part of the Bank of Canada's job is to prepare for and highlight short term and long term risks, and beyond expensive natural disasters and the like, the risk of being left behind on low-carbon economy is real.  

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Posted

Tell me when Canada was noted for productivity by any of the parties measuring it?
Has sweet bugger all to do with Liberals and Conservatives and more to do with business practices here. Why upgrade your plant when you're making a profit and the gov't won't fork out to cover the cost? Like why should we have to spend our own hard earned money to increase our profits? -predominant thinking in boardrooms across the country.

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Posted
46 minutes ago, herbie said:

to increase our monopolistic profits?

A minor correction. "Inflation" helps though.

If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

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Of course inflation helps. If your wholesale price doubles, you can double your profits, say with a straight face "our % markup did not increase at all" and fools will find someone else to blame.

Posted
10 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

And yet, for the first time in years, we have full employment...for now.

"Employment" is the most misleading statistic of all time. 

People with part-time jobs just to live in poverty are included as employed, while at the same time people who aren't looking for work because they're busy draining the gov't are left out of unemployment stats. 

If you take away 100,000 high-paying jobs in the energy sector in Alberta and then "create" 60,000 jobs by cutting 60,000 people back from full-time work to 120,000 part-time jobs it's a net increase in "employment" but it's a net decrease in every meaningful way from standard of living to productivity to exports to energy independence, etc. 

Canadians are paying more taxes than ever (thank you carbon tax), inflation is crazy, interest rates are still soaring, and our PM is probably talking about transgender toddlers and the global warming caused by men playing sports right now. 

If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. 

Ex-Canadian since April 2025

Posted (edited)
17 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Maybe, but then how many of the other protests you referenced were at that scale, happening amidst a contagious public health crisis, and based (mostly) on misinformation and conspiracy theories?  

Actually, tons of protests. Because BLM sprang up to burn down the world because a lifelong junkie and violent criminal died when police were trying to arrest him in some city almost no one had ever or will ever go to and many had never even heard about.

Yes, a contagious public health crisis where tens of thousands gathered together to protest against this single policeman who had already been arrested. Including our sanctimonious blackfaced prime minister, who marched into an illegal demo (all public gatherings having been banned due to the aforementioned public health crisis) surrounded by bodyguards to take a knee.

We had protest after protest in the US, Canada, and the UK about that with no one daring to say boo about it and the police doing nothing whatsoever to impede the protesters. There were lots of mostly peaceful riots in the US causing billions of dollars in damage and taking many lives over the conspiracy theory that police were murdering unarmed black men just cuz.

 

17 hours ago, Moonbox said:

You oversimplify. I've long agreed that hobbling ourselves with carbon taxes while importing goods from countries who don't do that is just exporting our pollution, but this is something that could be addressed with proper trade policies. 

And yet, no one does so. And not a peep from Mr. Socks or his activist environmen minister about it. I suspect that part of the reason is they feel that this is just more income redistribution. From the rich (ie, us and the West) to the poor (ie, everyone in the developing world). And I think they believe that's entirely suitable.

17 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Regardless of your feelings on the issue, we are transitioning to a low-carbon economy,

What you mean to say is we are transitioning to a poorer economy with a lot more poverty and joblessness.

17 hours ago, Moonbox said:

 

and sooner than you suspect.  Part of the Bank of Canada's job is to prepare for and highlight short term and long term risks, and beyond expensive natural disasters and the like, the risk of being left behind on low-carbon economy is real.  

Left behind? With the hundred and fifty odd nations that are happily burning coal for energy and building more coal power plants?

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Posted
22 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Afer all - Pixie Dust is a substance or influence with an apparently magical effect that brings great success or luck THAT DOESN'T"T REALLY EXIST

And that IS trudeau to a tee - fake, fictional, promises magical cures that don't exist in the real world, makes claims about 'solutions' which will solve everything with magic despite the evidence.

 

Seems to fit.

It certainly does, in some peoples minds.... like the ones using the term.

And, by definition pixie dust is "a substance or influence with an apparently magical effect that brings great success or luck." and seems to have been working for Trudeau for the past 12 years LOL

It is important for PP to steal some out of Trudeau's bag LOL

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

Posted
10 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

It certainly does, in some peoples minds.... like the ones using the term.

No, i think they're all aware it's not actually a real thing, in fact the point of it was as a metaphor for fake solutions.  :) 

You... YOU knew it wasn't real, right'?   Right?

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And, by definition pixie dust is "a substance or influence with an apparently magical effect that brings great success or luck."

Holy crap.... you didn't know it doesn't exist. Well. er.. ok then.

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It is important for PP to steal some out of Trudeau's bag LOL

I'm pretty sure he'll get by with real solutions instead :)  We've had enough pixie dust solutions in this country - time for something a little more real.

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Posted
11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No, i think they're all aware it's not actually a real thing, in fact the point of it was as a metaphor for fake solutions.  :) 

You... YOU knew it wasn't real, right'?   Right?

Holy crap.... you didn't know it doesn't exist. Well. er.. ok then.

I'm pretty sure he'll get by with real solutions instead :)  We've had enough pixie dust solutions in this country - time for something a little more real.

Yup OK ?

Offer your opinion to those who care.... there may be one or two but not me LOL

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

Posted
16 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Yup OK ?

 

Ooooops - broke you mentally again I see :P  Are you going to do ten more and pretend it was your idea? LOLOL

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Offer your opinion to those who care.... there may be one or two but not me LOL

Yes, you really prove how little you care when you spend so much effort and time insisting you don't care  :)  Here's a hint - people who don't care don't feel the need to spend the energy to tell people they don't care. Because they don't care :)  

In any case, Pixie Dust is a perfect nickname for trudeau, who offers 'magical' solutions that aren't based in reality and basically sells fake promises he can't actually deliver on.

"Snake oil" would be another good one but it makes him sound tougher than he is :) 

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Posted
28 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Ooooops - broke you mentally again I see :P  Are you going to do ten more and pretend it was your idea? LOLOL

Yes, you really prove how little you care when you spend so much effort and time insisting you don't care  :)  Here's a hint - people who don't care don't feel the need to spend the energy to tell people they don't care. Because they don't care :)  

In any case, Pixie Dust is a perfect nickname for trudeau, who offers 'magical' solutions that aren't based in reality and basically sells fake promises he can't actually deliver on.

"Snake oil" would be another good one but it makes him sound tougher than he is :) 

Insult away....

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