What “The Enemy” Is Actually Saying

[Americana Antifa]

2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Trudeau is a far left totalitarian.  He isn’t liberal.  

Nobody is dumb enough to think that. Trudeau has made no effort whatsoever to overturn Canada's democracy.

You're just saying he's authoritarian so you can justify siding with fascism over liberalism.

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

So you are saying they deserved to be invaded and have no right to exist as a country.

No I’m not.  Read my resolution.  

14 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Nobody is dumb enough to think that. Trudeau has made no effort whatsoever to overturn Canada's democracy.

You're just saying he's authoritarian so you can justify siding with fascism over liberalism.

Yes he has tried to overturn Canadian democracy.  through martial law and possibly Chinese interference.  

Edited June 14, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[Americana Antifa]

2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yes he has tried to overturn Canadian democracy.  through martial law and possibly Chinese interference.  

Source? 

[OftenWrong]

4 hours ago, Rebound said:

s who were freaked out about Soviet expansion on the 50’s to the 80’s. Now you’re excusing it. 

Let's not forget who took down that mother'n wall in Berlin. It was Ronnie Reagan, not your guys.  Never forget that.

[OftenWrong]

4 hours ago, Rebound said:

conservatives were the ones who were freaked out about Soviet expansion on the 50’s to the 80’s. Now you’re excusing it.

The video does not excuse the soviet union. In fact Putin condemns it clearly.

But those of you who didn't watch past the first 30 seconds wouldn't know that, and so you don't even know what is being talked about here.

[Zeitgeist]

31 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Source? 

I don’t cite information that’s commonly available on multiple media platforms in recent history.  How about you open your eyes?

[OftenWrong]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Based on a COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING of HISTORY. Unlike yourself.

Ha ha see above and learn some history.

[Rebound]

21 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

The video does not excuse the soviet union. In fact Putin condemns it clearly.

But those of you who didn't watch past the first 30 seconds wouldn't know that, and so you don't even know what is being talked about here.

That video is twenty minutes of crap from people living in a frickin trailer. Are you truly incapable of writing down their point in plain English, without the mumbo-jumbo code words?  Just plain facts. Not a bunch of dots.

Let me show you: The Soviet Union dissolved in 1989 and a few years later, their federation agreed to become several independent nations. They agreed upon borders, wrote up treaties and signed them.  There was no treaty that said the nations could not join NATO, although none have. There was no treaty that said Russia had any say over the leadership of the other nations. So if Putin doesn’t like the guy in charge of Ukraine, that’s too bad.  He doesn’t have a right of invasion. He annexed Crimea illegally and violently, while Turchynov was president of Ukraine. Obama imposed sanctions and Trump did absolutely nothing.  So to say Trump has a magic solution is BS, because Trump did ZERO to get Russia out of Crimea. 

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, NYLefty said:

Fascist Commie Nazi Drivel. Oh and I shut it off after the first 30 seconds. 

What's the matter? Putin isn't racist enough for ya? 

Go watch a Farrakhan video if you need to git yo hate on. 

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, Rebound said:

Fck them and Fck you.

”I watched a video of Putin and I couldn’t find anything he said I disagreed with.” 

Awww, wy aww yu cwying wittow boy?

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PUTIN INVADED ANOTHER COUNTRY AND KILLED 100,000’s OF PEOPLE!!!!  

Wait, I thought that it was tens of thousands of Russian soldiers that were dying and almost no one else... Can you get you story straight just once?

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Did Ukraine invade Russia? NO. Did Ukraine threaten to invade Russia? NO.  

Ukraine has been trying to put NATO right on Russia's doorstep for years. They knew that it would lead to this, so this is essentially their own war.

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FINAL QUESTION: If there is any truth or justice in Putin’s invasion, then why are the Ukrainian people fighting so hard and so successfully to stop him?

How successful are they? Ukraine's eastern border has moved a long way west. 

And again, are there hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians dead, or are they successfully fighting? You need to get your story straight. You sound like an id10t and a liar, as usual. 

Edited June 14, 2023 by WestCanMan

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

Misinformation is the glue to your demented party.

Get off the wokeness, democrats, it's not healthy. 

The alternative to being woke is ASLEEP, at which you guys are very good, along with DREAMING about Trump's "leadership".

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

I don’t cite information that’s commonly available on multiple media platforms in recent history.  How about you open your eyes?

They're sealioning. It's their go-to when they don't want to acknowledge the basic facts on any topic.

While you go off to do their due diligence, they'll keep on lying here, then they'll ignore all the facts and data you find that destroy their false narrative. They will never own up to anything. 

Right now Rebound is trying to simultaneously claim that the Ukrainians are winning but also that they lost hundreds of thousands of lives.

The death toll that the leftists cite depends on which of their false narratives they are currently pushing. They honestly used to say "There are 15,000 dead Russian soldiers and 1,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers, plus 500 dead civilians. It's a genocide."  Seems more like a reverse genocide if their numbers are right but what do I know.

[Deluge]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The alternative to being woke is ASLEEP, at which you guys are very good, along with DREAMING about Trump's "leadership".

Wrong. The alternative to being "woke" is AWAKE; it's grammatically correct, and it's what the rest of us are.

 

Edited June 14, 2023 by Deluge

[herbie]

6 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yup, you’re so radicalized and closed minded that you can’t handle and discussion.  Says it all.  

Must be. Radicalized by your like, using fascist and commie at the same time.

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Must be. Radicalized by your like, using fascist and commie at the same time.

Both are totalitarian and practically look the same.  

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

 

 

I agree with what the narrator is saying up to about halfway through, when he started talking about cancel culture, etc (I gtg so I didn't finish it) but for all I know Putin could be saying different things entirely. 

If he said dasvidaniya, naz daroviya or nyet I'd have a rough idea, that's about it. 

 

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Deluge said:

Wrong. The alternative to being "woke" is AWAKE; it's grammatically correct, and it's what the rest of us are.

 

Woke MEANS awake. They are synonyms. Duh.

I woke up == I am awake. LMAO.

[Rebound]

4 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Let's not forget who took down that mother'n wall in Berlin. It was Ronnie Reagan, not your guys.  Never forget that.

No, Ronald Reagan was out of office and well into dementia when that occurred.  

[robosmith]

49 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Both are totalitarian and practically look the same.  

Fascist is right wing authoritarian. Commie/Socialist is left wing (usually) authoritarian. Duh.

Unless it's Democratic Socialist like Scandinavian countries where they actually vote FOR socialism.

[NYLefty]

9 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yup, you’re so radicalized and closed minded that you can’t handle and discussion.  Says it all.  

I don't Discuss Nazi ideals

[NYLefty]

6 hours ago, Deluge said:

You're the Fascist Commie Nazi; it's why you shut it off after the first 30 seconds. If you had your way, videos like this would be outlawed. 

Fascist murderer your hero, Eh?? Move to mother Russia and enjoy living with your comrades 

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

What's the matter? Putin isn't racist enough for ya? 

Go watch a Farrakhan video if you need to git yo hate on. 

Putin is a commie Nazi murderer hero of your cult. Move to Russia.

[Americana Antifa]

8 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

I don’t cite information that’s commonly available on multiple media platforms in recent history.  How about you open your eyes?

How dare I ask you to provide evidence for the lies you tell!

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

How dare I ask you to provide evidence for the lies you tell!

Your willful blindness is too obvious.

[Rebound]

15 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Have a third party with Russian and American-allied observers ensure that free elections take place in all areas of Ukraine for self-determination.  This would settle the fate of the Donbas and Crimea.  Don’t offer NATO membership to Ukraine in exchange for assurance of no invasion or occupation by Russia.  

Trudeau is a far left totalitarian.  He isn’t liberal.  

How can they hold elections in Ukraine when more than half its population has fled the country?  
 

And what is the legal basis for declaring that individual towns in a nation can declare their sovereign independence? Does Russia hold such elections over living under Putin’s rule? Does the United States or Canada permit secession? 

[Rebound]

5 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Your willful blindness is too obvious.

You’re the one who wants to live under a dictator instead of an elected leader, who accepts new elections.  
Putin has held onto power in Russia for 24 years. No election can remove him from power.