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1 hour ago, robosmith said:

I know more about the history (due to my Russian gf) than you.

She also floated the excuse that Crimea was a gift from Russia (before they took it back).

Do you even know what the Budapest Memorandum says?

Yes I’m well aware of it.  I worked in Russia shortly after the collapse of the Soviet Union and watched very closely as the West took advantage and reneged on promises to keep former Soviet republics out of NATO.  

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3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yes I’m well aware of it.  I worked in Russia shortly after the collapse of the Soviet Union and watched very closely as the West took advantage and reneged on promises to keep former Soviet republics out of NATO.  

You mean like Russia reneged on the Budapest Memorandum promises?

Who promised IN WRITING "to keep the former Soviet Republics out of NATO."

BTW, at the time I thought it was a mistake to provoke Russia that way.

But I have come around to the view that it made sense to prevent the  reassembling of the USSR BY FORCE. 

Of course there is a STRONG REASON why those countries CHOSE to join NATO.

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1 hour ago, robosmith said:

You mean like Russia reneged on the Budapest Memorandum promises?

Who promised IN WRITING "to keep the former Soviet Republics out of NATO."

BTW, at the time I thought it was a mistake to provoke Russia that way.

But I have come around to the view that it made sense to prevent the  reassembling of the USSR BY FORCE. 

Of course there is a STRONG REASON why those countries CHOSE to join NATO.

The reason was money and free market capitalism.  I get it.  I like it better here than Russia, but I don’t like the direction of Western countries culturally now.  I think we’re unmoored.  Russia in its messaging sounds more down to Earth and more sane.  I know it’s rhetoric, but we’re busy taking our kids to drag story time and attention ant-racism training. It’s just weird.  

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4 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

The reason was money and free market capitalism.  I get it.  I like it better here than Russia, but I don’t like the direction of Western countries culturally now.  I think we’re unmoored.  Russia in its messaging sounds more down to Earth and more sane.  I know it’s rhetoric, but we’re busy taking our kids to drag story time and attention ant-racism training. It’s just weird.  

Cause in Russia, you can still beat homosexuals and Jews to death just for fun, and get away with it.  Americans and Canadians can’t do that anymore! Sux!!! No more freedom at all! 

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9 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

The reason was money and free market capitalism.  I get it.  I like it better here than Russia, but I don’t like the direction of Western countries culturally now.  I think we’re unmoored.  Russia in its messaging sounds more down to Earth and more sane.  I know it’s rhetoric, but we’re busy taking our kids to drag story time and attention ant-racism training. It’s just weird.  

You FEELING 'it's weird" is NOT a legitimate reason to deny people THEIR RIGHTS. 

IF parents want to take their kids to "drag story time," it's really NONE of your business. Just ignore it; it won't destroy anything.

What exactly is wrong with "anti-racism training"? People SHOULD LEARN about the FALLACIES of racism.

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here is why politicos (those who care passionately about politics on a day to day basis) can't be taken seriously.

10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

but we’re busy taking our kids to drag story time and attention ant-racism training

This is pure hyperbole and exaggeration. What percentage of the US population takes their kids to a drag story time? Well, there is no central database for this so all we have is estimation. However, we all know that this is fairly uncommon if you look at the entire US population. I live in a fairly liberal area and they happen 3 or 4 times per year and one has to be connected to a certain nonprofit to even know about them. 

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17 hours ago, Rebound said:

Cause in Russia, you can still beat homosexuals and Jews to death just for fun, and get away with it.  Americans and Canadians can’t do that anymore! Sux!!! No more freedom at all! 

You’re stupid.  You do realize that Russia lost 20 million people in WW2 fighting Nazism.  You do realize that there’s a major Neo-Nazi movement in Ukraine.  

12 hours ago, robosmith said:

You FEELING 'it's weird" is NOT a legitimate reason to deny people THEIR RIGHTS. 

IF parents want to take their kids to "drag story time," it's really NONE of your business. Just ignore it; it won't destroy anything.

What exactly is wrong with "anti-racism training"? People SHOULD LEARN about the FALLACIES of racism.

No that’s called grooming and child abuse.  Face reality.  

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1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

You’re stupid.  You do realize that Russia lost 20 million people in WW2 fighting Nazism.  You do realize that there’s a major Neo-Nazi movement in Ukraine.  

Nazis in Ukraine are no threat to Russia, since they do NOT control the government.

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

No that’s called grooming and child abuse.  Face reality.  

The reality is that your judgement about what is happening has NO LEGITIMACY for ANYONE ELSE. AKA it's just YOUR SPECULATION.

Drag story time is not "grooming" anything which harms children. Only TOLERANCE (which you apparently lack completely).

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7 hours ago, robosmith said:

Nazis in Ukraine are no threat to Russia, since they do NOT control the government.

The reality is that your judgement about what is happening has NO LEGITIMACY for ANYONE ELSE. AKA it's just YOUR SPECULATION.

Drag story time is not "grooming" anything which harms children. Only TOLERANCE (which you apparently lack completely).

Drag story time is all about normalizing the idea of men acting like women.  The jokes are bawdy and age inappropriate.  It’s so clearly a twisted form of education. The icing on the cake is when parents bring their young kids to watch guys in Pride parades bend over and flaunt their genitalia, as though this is also healthy.  Sick.  You’ll never see it because you’re fully indoctrinated.  This is the direction of our culture now, and it’s destructive, obviously.  

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10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

You’re stupid.  You do realize that Russia lost 20 million people in WW2 fighting Nazism.  You do realize that there’s a major Neo-Nazi movement in Ukraine.  

No that’s called grooming and child abuse.  Face reality.  

False. The Soviet Union, which included Ukraine, not just Russia, lost over 27,000 in WWII. But Ukraine had already lost millions to Stalin.  

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

Drag story time is all about normalizing the idea of men acting like women.  The jokes are bawdy and age inappropriate.  It’s so clearly a twisted form of education. The icing on the cake is when parents bring their young kids to watch guys in Pride parades bend over and flaunt their genitalia, as though this is also healthy.  Sick.  You’ll never see it because you’re fully indoctrinated.  This is the direction of our culture now, and it’s destructive, obviously.  

What does this “destructive” direction destroy? Does it destroy bigotry? Intolerance? 

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3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Drag story time is all about normalizing the idea of men acting like women.  

So what? It's NOT HARMING ANYONE. Why are you so INTOLERANT?

3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

The jokes are bawdy and age inappropriate.  

How would you know? I've never seen those shows.

And who are you to decide what is "appropriate" for other parents' kids?

3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

It’s so clearly a twisted form of education. The icing on the cake is when parents bring their young kids to watch guys in Pride parades bend over and flaunt their genitalia, as though this is also healthy.  Sick.  You’ll never see it because you’re fully indoctrinated.  This is the direction of our culture now, and it’s destructive, obviously.  

IF I'll "never see it," that is MY CHOICE. I do know that men bring their young daughters through the men's locker room at my gym, so apparently it's widely accepted that they risk seeing mens' junk. AKA, no big deal. Except to PRUDES like you.

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2 hours ago, Rebound said:

False. The Soviet Union, which included Ukraine, not just Russia, lost over 27,000 in WWII. But Ukraine had already lost millions to Stalin.  

What does this “destructive” direction destroy? Does it destroy bigotry? Intolerance? 

What do you think the long-term consequences are for a society that teaches males to act female?  You call sanity bigotry.  

29 minutes ago, robosmith said:

So what? It's NOT HARMING ANYONE. Why are you so INTOLERANT?

How would you know? I've never seen those shows.

And who are you to decide what is "appropriate" for other parents' kids?

IF I'll "never see it," that is MY CHOICE. I do know that men bring their young daughters through the men's locker room at my gym, so apparently it's widely accepted that they risk seeing mens' junk. AKA, no big deal. Except to PRUDES like you.

You’re a creep.  

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3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

What do you think the long-term consequences are for a society that teaches males to act female?  You call sanity bigotry.  

Exposing people to ideas that demonstrate the fallacy of their bigotry teaches them to have an OPEN MIND.

3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

You’re a creep.  

^Resorting to childish name calling is the last resort of the intellectually BANKRUPT.

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22 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

You’re stupid.  You do realize that Russia lost 20 million people in WW2 fighting Nazism.  You do realize that there’s a major Neo-Nazi movement in Ukraine.  

No, YOU said that we are “unmoored”.  Which, translated, means you think society should persecute homosexuals.  
 

I’ve figured you out, by the way.  

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