blackbird Posted May 8, 2023 Author Report Posted May 8, 2023 The Fleur-de-lis and a cross are present in all crowns and coat-of-arms in Britain and the Commonwealth. It is not something that bureaucrats tinker with and change at a whim except in... you guessed it, Trudeau's Canada. Now the historic symbols which have always been a part of the crown for centuries will be replaced by a golden-coloured maple leaf and a white snowflake which have nothing to do with Canada's history or ties to the Monarchy. Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, blackbird said: The Fleur-de-lis and a cross are present in all crowns and coat-of-arms in Britain and the Commonwealth. It is not something that bureaucrats tinker with and change at a whim except in... you guessed it, Trudeau's Canada. Now the historic symbols which have always been a part of the crown for centuries will be replaced by a golden-coloured maple leaf and a white snowflake which have nothing to do with Canada's history or ties to the Monarchy. who would kill & die for the bureaucrats of Canada ? a Canadian Infantryman would only kill & die for Regiment, Colours & Commander-in-Chief Quote
I am Groot Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Sounds like the same whining we heard from conservatives when Canada adopted its own flag instead of keeping the British flag. We don’t need constitutional amendments for purely symbolic matters. It has a freakin unicorn on it for gods sake Imagine, conservatives caring about history, traditions and national institutions! Good liberals care nothing for such things! They know Canada has no core identity, no sense of shared unity, no past and no future! It's not like we're even a nation! Which is a good thing since we're systemically racist and genocidal. Live for today, and worry about the debt some other day! Edited May 8, 2023 by I am Groot Quote
I am Groot Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 5 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Nonsense. Insisting on British history and identity instead of our own makes people easier to control. We don't have an identity. Your leader even said so. Rather proudly, I might add. Having done a good job, along with his father, of ethnic cleansing. Quote
I am Groot Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Does anyone here in their right mind really think Trudeau has anything to do with what is on a stamp? You think Trudeau is the entirety of government? Every institution is filled with people at the top who are pushing rules, regulations and behaviour that is sent down from the PMO Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: Imagine, conservatives caring about history, traditions and national institutions! Good liberals care nothing for such things! They know Canada has no core identity, no sense of shared unity, no past and no future! It's not like we're even a nation! Live for today, and worry about the debt some other day! When conservatives opposed Canada having its own flag and behaving like a an actual sovereign nation you were not doing anything except saying Canada deserves nothing more than to be a second rate snivelling bootlick satellite of a foreign power. You were mortified that we would dare to rise above our lesser station. And when Britain faded post war you tripped over your own feet trying desperately to suck up and serve your new daddy Uncle Sam, so scared you were to try and be your own person. Pride in being nothing more than someone else’s servant is not pride at all. Edited May 8, 2023 by BeaverFever Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, I am Groot said: You think Trudeau is the entirety of government? Every institution is filled with people at the top who are pushing rules, regulations and behaviour that is sent down from the PMO That’s false Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, I am Groot said: We don't have an identity. Your leader even said so. Rather proudly, I might add. Having done a good job, along with his father, of ethnic cleansing. “Ethnic cleansing” omg Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, blackbird said: The Fleur-de-lis and a cross are present in all crowns and coat-of-arms in Britain and the Commonwealth. It is not something that bureaucrats tinker with and change at a whim except in... you guessed it, Trudeau's Canada. Now the historic symbols which have always been a part of the crown for centuries will be replaced by a golden-coloured maple leaf and a white snowflake which have nothing to do with Canada's history or ties to the Monarchy. Yea snow and maple leaves have nothing to do with Canada ? Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 39 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: but neither is some made up fake crown invented by Justin Trudeau, sir It wasn’t invented by Trudeau Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: It wasn’t invented by Trudeau ultimately. I decide what I will kill & die for when the whistle blows that will only be for Regiment, Colours & King Charles III I have no allegiance to Justin Trudeau and his ridiculous fake country, nor its fake crown if you are want to kill and die for Justin Trudeau, I am not standing in your way Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Dougie93 said: the King cannot give away your freedoms he is bound by solemn oath before God Himself to defend your freedoms and HM King Charles III believes in God, HM is a devout Christian furthermore, HM is Commander-in-Chief indoctrinated to be an infantry Commissioned Officer of the Parachute Regiment to include P Company Selection as an Officer Candidate the hardest infantry standard in the world ; Warrior King I would trust Charles Windsor with my life therein, follow him into battle Utrinque Paratus I don’t even know what to say this drivel. He can’t take away our rights because he supposedly swore an oath to god that he wouldn’t? Aside from totally mixing up the meaning of “can’t” and “won’t” and the dubious claims that one man’s private religious beliefs are known and don’t change and somehow so iron-clad that they are a scientific fact of the universe, it is just wrong Canadians have rights be because we have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms not because we lucked out that the inbred monarch on a foreign throne is kind enough to let us have them. Interestingly there are no constitutional rights in the UK amd the monarchy doesn’t have the power to unilaterally strip them away Brits on the other hand have no constitutional rights or freedoms. They have long standing freedoms granted to them by acts of parliament and the legal precedent of various court decisions but none are ironclad inalienable constitutional rights. Quote
herbie Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 Justin himself doodled it on a napkin and ordered his Ministers to impose it. He did that between deciding which shoes your wife would wear to work and whether the power in your outlet was 117 or 120V and ordering your dog when to fart. Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: I don’t even know what to say this drivel. He can’t take away our rights because he supposedly swore an oath to god that he wouldn’t? Aside from totally mixing up the meaning of “can’t” and “won’t” and the dubious claims that one man’s private religious beliefs are known and don’t change and somehow so iron-clad that they are a scientific fact of the universe, it is just wrong Canadians have rights be because we have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms not because we lucked out that the inbred monarch on a foreign throne is kind enough to let us have them. Interestingly there are no constitutional rights in the UK amd the monarchy doesn’t have the power to unilaterally strip them away Brits on the other hand have no constitutional rights or freedoms. They have long standing freedoms granted to them by acts of parliament and the legal precedent of various court decisions but none are ironclad inalienable constitutional rights. I don't answer to you I only answer to HM King Charles III Sovereign, Head of State & Commander-in-Chief I would kill and die for that, at bayonet range that is all that matters in the end Quote
Army Guy Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 34 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Canadians have rights be because we have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms not because we lucked out that the inbred monarch on a foreign throne is kind enough to let us have them. Interestingly there are no constitutional rights in the UK amd the monarchy doesn’t have the power to unilaterally strip them away Brits on the other hand have no constitutional rights or freedoms. They have long standing freedoms granted to them by acts of parliament and the legal precedent of various court decisions but none are ironclad inalienable constitutional rights. Canadian parliament can change or cancel any of those rights written in the charter, (pandemic ring a bell)(convoy).....just as British parliament can change or cancel any of their rights and freedoms given to them via parliament or law.. The only difference is one is all on one document the other in several volumes of British law. Nether are iron clad or inalienable rights. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Canadian parliament can change or cancel any of those rights written in the charter, (pandemic ring a bell)(convoy).....just as British parliament can change or cancel any of their rights and freedoms given to them via parliament or law.. The only difference is one is all on one document the other in several volumes of British law. Nether are iron clad or inalienable rights. the government of Canada would fall if they ever crossed the public mood the filthy disgusting treasonous politicians would end up in Milhaven maximum security penitentiary I'm quite sure politicians are aware thus they only advocate for what the public will tolerate Edited May 8, 2023 by Dougie93 Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 33 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Canadian parliament can change or cancel any of those rights written in the charter, (pandemic ring a bell)(convoy).....just as British parliament can change or cancel any of their rights and freedoms given to them via parliament or law.. The only difference is one is all on one document the other in several volumes of British law. Nether are iron clad or inalienable rights. So nobody invoked the notwithstanding clause or a constitutional amendment during that pandemic. Also it’s a lot harder to do any of those things than in the uk. The rights amd freedoms brits are naturally entitled to are more limited than in Canada and its much easier for Brit authorities to take those away. 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Dougie93 said: I don't answer to you I only answer to HM King Charles III Sovereign, Head of State & Commander-in-Chief I would kill and die for that, at bayonet range that is all that matters in the end You must be ill if would kill and die for Charles “I want to be your tampon” and all his buffoonery. 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: You must be ill if would kill and die for Charles “I want to be your tampon” and all his buffoonery. but that is the Canadian oath of allegiance “I swear (or affirm) that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles the Third, King of Canada, His Heirs and Successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada, and fulfil my duties as a Canadian citizen.” I mean, are you a Canadian, or not ? Edited May 8, 2023 by Dougie93 Quote
ExFlyer Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Dougie93 said: but neither is some made up fake crown invented by Justin Trudeau, sir Do you truly think Trudeau has anything to do with what is on a stamp? If so, you are a lot more foolish and naive than even I give you credit for, LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ExFlyer Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: You think Trudeau is the entirety of government? Every institution is filled with people at the top who are pushing rules, regulations and behaviour that is sent down from the PMO Not sure what you are trying to say? I do not, in any way think Trudeau "is the entirety of government". As I said, "Does anyone here in their right mind really think Trudeau has anything to do with what is on a stamp? " If you do, give your head a shake LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Iceni warrior Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, Contrarian said: While the oath of allegiance is an important tradition, it does not require blind loyalty or condone violent actions. Troll, your sugar is almost over, apparently the good admin is working on a feature that you can sent 10 messages consecutive and it will be condensed into 1 message. A man that destroyed the conversation on this board, that would be like taking the sugar away from the welfare recipient. That will come next. but maybe you thought about that offer I gave you about radical centrism, you will leave the trolling and the cheap slogans and come here, to expose the people on the extremes that are fragmenting this society? Dougie93, you are my favorite customer, every time I work and have a few glasses of whiskey on my own money, Uncle Sugar does not pay me, my friend, I just want to aim my cannons at you, I am going to tell you right now, @Iceni warrior, that man, is a friend like you never had in your entire life. Cherish that friendship troll, or else, soon enough with the traffic that is coming here, not even this space will be your safe space. Nobody, no matter how strong they are in any kind of physical combat does do what you do here, coward cheap lager drinker. I know you don't see it Contrarian but it's you that's the troll. If you take the time to actually listen to Dougie you will learn a lot. I'm very different ideologically from Dougie but after knowing him for getting on for a decade I've learnt to have great respect for him. We've had a few bust ups over the years but that doesn't mean we can't be friends. You should take a leaf out of my book and stop being such a massive troll and talk to him like he's a human being. Quote
Iceni warrior Posted May 9, 2023 Report Posted May 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Contrarian said: I respect your opinion, do not respect your approach. You overlook what he says, lies and manipulation which I found personally within 2 phone calls, he lied about his rank friend, he used someone's name on this board friend, and you defend him, why? Because you share the same DNA as him? And you look at me less than because you share the same DNA as him? What are you talking about, my friend? what do you want to know about DNA man, You want me to talk about his claims and what I found out, do you want me to push this further and aim towards finding out who this coward is and exposing him in real life? Brother, if you stand his ground just because his DNA you are a racist through and through, and shame on you. Nah, he's no liar. I know exactly who he is in real life. He's no coward either. I'm trying to help you out here but if you're not listening I'll waste no more time talking. Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 9, 2023 Report Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Dougie93 said: but that is the Canadian oath of allegiance “I swear (or affirm) that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles the Third, King of Canada, His Heirs and Successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada, and fulfil my duties as a Canadian citizen.” I mean, are you a Canadian, or not ? Only immigrants and certain public servants have to say that. Native born Canadian civilians have never uttered those words Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Posted May 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Only immigrants and certain public servants have to say that. Native born Canadian civilians have never uttered those words fair enough I took the oath to serve the regiment but as Canada is a monarchy you are not responsible to be a citizen soldier Quote
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