Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: You said you refuse to acknowledge the crown of canada that he chose, don’t you consider that treason? no, Treason is quite clearly defined under Section 46 of the Criminal Code Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 20 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: no, Treason is quite clearly defined under Section 46 of the Criminal Code Great so we’re all in agreement: nobody is committing treason and that Charles approved these changes and the crown of Canada was going to have to be changed anyway because Charles chose a different one from the Queen. 2 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 1 minute ago, BeaverFever said: Great so we’re all in agreement: nobody is committing treason and that Charles approved these changes and the crown of Canada was going to have to be changed anyway because Charles chose a different one from the Queen. I never invoked treason in the first place I simply said I would carry on with my culture through Canadian multiculturalism under Section 2 of the Charter Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 39 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I never invoked treason in the first place I simply said I would carry on with my culture through Canadian multiculturalism under Section 2 of the Charter Great! Crisis resolved! Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Great! Crisis resolved! I never invoked a crisis I simply find the Trudeau crown to be ridiculous Quote
Legato Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 The Unicorn is more believable than Trudeau, so Teflon McSocks had it removed. Just(in) following the actions of dictators throughout history. Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Legato said: The Unicorn is more believable than Trudeau, so Teflon McSocks had it removed. Just(in) following the actions of dictators throughout history. the Unicorn represents the mythical beast which the King could overpower you will note that the Crown is around the neck of Unicorn bringing it under command it originates with the Scots royalty since 1603 the Royal Coat of Arms has featured the English Lion to the left, the Scots Unicorn to the right Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 55 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I never invoked a crisis I simply find the Trudeau crown to be ridiculous Everything related to the monarchy is ridiculous. 2 Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 46 minutes ago, Legato said: The Unicorn is more believable than Trudeau, so Teflon McSocks had it removed. Just(in) following the actions of dictators throughout history. 1) The unicorn was not removed. 2) There is nothing dictatorial about updating national symbols. Plenty of non-dictators and governments of all stripes update national symbols as well. Was George Washington a dictator? He literally took up arms against the crown in addition to completely removing their symbols Your Trudeau Derangement Syndrome is showing. Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 Just now, BeaverFever said: Everything related to the monarchy is ridiculous. well, I find there are still many monarchists in Canada particularly here in Upper Canada, Guardians of Confederation surely we are within our rights to defend the Crown in British North America ? it is after all the monarchy which defends your right to invoke the monarchy as being ridiculous we monarchists are defending your right to that, with our lives as necessary Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Was George Washington a dictator? He literally took up arms against the crown in addition to completely removing their symbols in America, I follow the American Constitution but so long as I am residing on Canadian soil, I defend & uphold Parliamentary Supremacy Canada is not a republic, there is no public rule in Canada there is no such thing as a Canadian Declaration of Independence so I have no authority to depose Justin Trudeau I simply decry him as being a de facto tyrant under Section 2 of the Charter of Rights & Freedoms Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: well, I find there are still many monarchists in Canada particularly here in Upper Canada, Guardians of Confederation surely we are within our rights to defend the Crown in British North America ? it is after all the monarchy which defends your right to invoke the monarchy as being ridiculous we monarchists are defending your right to that, with our lives as necessary Great you do that! Plenty of non-monarchies around the world have rights so we must be missing something. The truth is we only have constitutional rights because Pierre Trudeau, who did more to enshrine and guarantee those rights when he championed and spearheaded the constitution. The monarch simply rubber stamped the arrangement struck between Trudeau and the provinces, which the monarchy had no part in forming. The monarchy doesn’t defend squat. It signs whatever the politicians tell it to and it keeps its opinions to itself. Also there’s something hypocritical and absurd about claiming we only have rights because the king lets us have them. If the king can giveth and the king can taketh away our freedoms then they’re not freedoms at all. 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: If the king can giveth and the king can taketh away our freedoms then they’re not freedoms at all. the King cannot give away your freedoms he is bound by solemn oath before God Himself to defend your freedoms and HM King Charles III believes in God, HM is a devout Christian furthermore, HM is Commander-in-Chief indoctrinated to be an infantry Commissioned Officer of the Parachute Regiment to include P Company Selection as an Officer Candidate the hardest infantry standard in the world ; Warrior King I would trust Charles Windsor with my life therein, follow him into battle Utrinque Paratus Edited May 8, 2023 by Dougie93 Quote
ExFlyer Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 Does anyone here in their right mind really think Trudeau has anything to do with what is on a stamp? Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 the Coat of Arms with the Tudor Crown was the symbol of a Canadian Regimental Sergeant Major the highest standard for any Infantry Non Commissioned Officer I would have killed & died on command for that Coat of Arms Quote
herbie Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 I tire of chopping off the heads of wives I become bored with, therefore I shall snap my fingers, create a new barely modified church of which I am the head of. For centuries there will always be fools that quote Biblical references that seem to justify that I am King Shit. Imagine being so unpatriotic you believe your country shouldn't create it's own symbols and must always use someone else's FFS. Lester Pearson face-palming in the grave at the dinosaurs still roaming 60 years later. 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 1 minute ago, herbie said: I tire of chopping off the heads of wives I become bored with, therefore I shall snap my fingers, create a new barely modified church of which I am the head of. For centuries there will always be fools that quote Biblical references that seem to justify that I am King Shit. Imagine being so unpatriotic you believe your country shouldn't create it's own symbols and must always use someone else's FFS. Lester Pearson face-palming in the grave at the dinosaurs still roaming 60 years later. nobody cares about about Lester Boyes Pearson anymore if you polled Canadians on the street, most would never have heard of him Quote
herbie Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 I suppose you're gonna tell us they don't teach Cdn history in school any more too. Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, herbie said: I suppose you're gonna tell us they don't teach Cdn history in school any more too. spot check my wife is a 48 year old U of T grad I asked her who Lester Boyes Pearson was she said he was "the owner of Pearson airport" ? in the wake of which I explained who he was to include the Maple Leaf flag and Peacekeeping in Suez Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, herbie said: I suppose you're gonna tell us they don't teach Cdn history in school any more too. spot check I just texted a 21 year old Zoomer whom I work with asked him who Lester Boyes Pearson was he says "never heard of him" Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, herbie said: I suppose you're gonna tell us they don't teach Cdn history in school any more too. spot check I texted a Canadian Army infantry Warrant Officer (ret) asked him who Lester Boyes Pearson was he knows, in great detail, still sending me Lester Boyes Pearson history in real time Ducimus Quote
blackbird Posted May 8, 2023 Author Report Posted May 8, 2023 The Trudeau bureaucracy have decided to change the Royal Crown by removing the historic and famous Fleur de lis from the sides of the crown and replacing it with a unimpressive and unimaginative maple leaf. This of course changes the Coat of Arms as well. This is an insult to Canada, our historical roots, and should also be an insult to French Canada or Quebec which also has much historical ties to the Fleur de lis: " Fleur-de-lis From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia For other uses, see Fleur-de-lis (disambiguation). A fleur-de-lis or, as used in heraldry The fleur-de-lis, also spelled fleur-de-lys (plural fleurs-de-lis or fleurs-de-lys),[pron 1] is a lily (in French, fleur and lis mean 'flower' and 'lily' respectively) that is used as a decorative design or symbol. The fleur-de-lis has been used in the heraldry of numerous European nations, but is particularly associated with France, notably during its monarchical period. The fleur-de-lis became "at one and the same time, religious, political, dynastic, artistic, emblematic, and symbolic," especially in French heraldry.[4] The fleur-de-lis has been used by French royalty and throughout history to represent saints of France. In particular, the Virgin Mary and Saint Joseph are often depicted with a lily. The fleur-de-lis is represented in Unicode at U+269C ⚜ in the Miscellaneous Symbols block. Origin[edit] 15th-century manuscript depicting an angel sending the fleurs-de-lis to Clovis. From the Bedford Hours in the British Library, London. The fleur de lis is widely thought to be a stylized version of the species Iris pseudacorus, or Iris florentina.[5][6] However, the lily (genus lilium, family Liliaceae) and the iris (family Iridaceae) are two different plants, phylogenetically and taxonomically unrelated. Lily (in Italian: giglio) is the name usually associated with the stylized flower in the Florentine heraldic devices. Decorative ornaments that resemble the fleur-de-lis have appeared in artwork from the earliest human civilizations.[citation needed] According to Pierre-Augustin Boissier de Sauvages, an 18th-century French naturalist and lexicographer:[7] The old fleurs-de-lis, especially the ones found in our first kings' sceptres, have a lot less in common with ordinary lilies than the flowers called flambas [in Occitan], or irises, from which the name of our own fleur-de-lis may derive. What gives some colour of truth to this hypothesis that we already put forth, is the fact that the French or Franks, before entering Gaul itself, lived for a long time around the river named Lys in the Flanders. Nowadays, this river is still bordered with an exceptional number of irises —as many plants grow for centuries in the same places—: these irises have yellow flowers, which is not a typical feature of lilies but fleurs-de-lis. It was thus understandable that our kings, having to choose a symbolic image for what later became a coat of arms, set their minds on the iris, a flower that was common around their homes, and is also as beautiful as it was remarkable. They called it, in short, the fleur-de-lis, instead of the flower of the river of lis. This flower, or iris, looks like our fleur-de-lis not just because of its yellow colour but also because of its shape: of the six petals, or leaves, that it has, three of them are alternatively straight and meet at their tops. The other three on the opposite, bend down so that the middle one seems to make one with the stalk and only the two ones facing out from left and right can clearly be seen, which is again similar with our fleurs-de-lis, that is to say exclusively the one from the river Luts whose white petals bend down too when the flower blooms. unquote 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, blackbird said: The Trudeau bureaucracy have decided to change the Royal Crown by removing the historic and famous Fleur de lis from the sides of the crown and replacing it with a unimpressive and unimaginative maple leaf. This of course changes the Coat of Arms as well. This is an insult to Canada, our historical roots, and should also be an insult to French Canada or Quebec which also has much historical ties to the Fleur de lis but the Quebecois don't care what Ottawa says ironically, Quebec is the most British part of Canada they still only acknowledge the British North America Act 1867 they have no respect for the Liberal's Canada Act 1982 they have already flown the Fleur de Lis and ignored the Liberals for decades if only other provinces would follow suit, the ignominious rule of the Liberal Post National State would be no more Quote
ExFlyer Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dougie93 said: the Coat of Arms with the Tudor Crown was the symbol of a Canadian Regimental Sergeant Major the highest standard for any Infantry Non Commissioned Officer I would have killed & died on command for that Coat of Arms "the Coat of Arms with the Tudor Crown was the symbol of a" Canadian Military Chief Warrant Officer" not just RSM. King vs Queen crown. https://www.difference101.com/king-crown-vs-queen-crown-what-is-the-difference-between-king-crown-and-queen-crown/ Edited May 8, 2023 by ExFlyer Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Dougie93 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Posted May 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: "the Coat of Arms with the Tudor Crown was the symbol of a" Canadian Military Chief Warrant Officer" not just RSM. King vs Queen crown. https://www.difference101.com/king-crown-vs-queen-crown-what-is-the-difference-between-king-crown-and-queen-crown/ but neither is some made up fake crown invented by Justin Trudeau, sir Quote
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