CSIS: Liberal MP is alleged Chinese agent, Trudeau ignored warnings

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

I'm simply asking what you are nationalist about exactly

you diverted off into the Iraq War, I'm not seeing the connection

with respect, as your friend, I'm just asking a question

why are you a Canadian nationalist ?

I have found it to be a fool's errand, and I can articulate exactly why

I'm just wondering what your argument would be, for Canadian nationalism

I'm a Canadian and I love Canada. Simple as that.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

not in my experience

I would assert that the Canadian military operates at odds with its own government

because the Canadian government is trying to destroy its own military

so the military is desperately trying to save itself in the face of Disarmament by Stealth

the Canadian military is constantly sabotaging attempts by government to impose corruption & lunacy upon it

the Canadian government and Canadian military are in opposition,  which is why the military is so dysfunctional

there is no trust between the military & government

I would suggest that the military is on the threshold of mutiny

which is why the government is panicking, purging the senior ranks as we speak

the government didn't freak out & go hysterical about the Freedom Convoy because of the truckers

the government went hysterical because the Convoy was being led by Canadian Forces & RCMP

This I can believe. The Canadian military needs to be leary og the federal government. 

[CdnFox]

33 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but control of a military does not a nation make

there are plenty of non state armed forces in the world

NATO being the most prominent

NATO is not a country,  yet it has control of all armed forces under its command

No, it doesn't. Nato can't decide to order canadian forces to attack bulgaria. Or do anything else for that matter.

If there is a nato specific mission then a chain of command is agreed upon for that purpose, but we can decide we don't agree to that or to being a part of nato if we wish. At the end of the day agreeing to work together is not the same as "they have full control of our forces".

Wagner would have been a better example of a non state military.

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

This I can believe. The Canadian military needs to be leary og the federal government. 

so if the Canadian military cannot trust the government

then who do they serve ?

who do they ultimately answer to ?

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

so if the Canadian military cannot trust the government

then who do they serve ?

who do they ultimately answer to ?

You.

Me.

Canada.

[Goddess]

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In this episode of China Unscripted, we discuss Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's vision for Canada, how he courted Chinese state-owned businesses when he first got into office, and how the US has had to take precautions to keep China's influence in Canada from affecting its own national security.

 

 

This jives with my view that Trudeau is and has been, hurting our relationship with the US.

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, Goddess said:

 

This jives with my view that Trudeau is and has been, hurting our relationship with the US.

Justin is bound by his father's legacy to cow to China. That and the Quebec Power Corp.

[blackbird]

Many Canadian politicians and governments at all levels have turned a blind eye to Chinese interference for decades.

Tasha Kheiriddin: Jagmeet Singh must pull support for Justin Trudeau's Liberals (msn.com)

[CdnFox]

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/tasha-kheiriddin-jagmeet-singh-must-pull-support-for-justin-trudeaus-liberals

Jagmeet Singh must pull support for Justin Trudeau's Liberals

It is up to the opposition parties to take a stand and put country before party, and let the dominoes fall where they may

[Dougie93]

On 3/13/2023 at 6:43 PM, Nationalist said:

I'm a Canadian and I love Canada. Simple as that.

I couldn't sign a contract of unlimited liability to kill & die for the state, on the basis of that

hence why I would have only killed & died for Elizabeth Windsor

Commander-in-Chief

heir to the throne of Victoria Hanover

the story of my people

Canada is simply The Confederation

that part is negotiable

vive le Quebec libre

Je me souviens

Edited March 14, 2023 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

20 hours ago, Nationalist said:

You.

Me.

Canada.

that is not the case

since Canada is not a republic

doesn't matter what you feel in your heart

the constitution says that Canada is still a monarchy regardless

thus the soldiers of the Crown are only bound to have fealty to the monarch therein

the Canadian people after all could try to overthrow the monarch

at which point the military is bound by solemn oath to defend the monarch against the masses

[Nationalist]

41 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

that is not the case

since Canada is not a republic

doesn't matter what you feel in your heart

the constitution says that Canada is still a monarchy regardless

thus the soldiers of the Crown are only bound to have fealty to the monarch therein

the Canadian people after all could try to overthrow the monarch

at which point the military is bound by solemn oath to defend the monarch against the masses

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict that will never happen. We could "overthrow" the monarcy by simply tossing it aside. The military would do nothing.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict that will never happen. We could "overthrow" the monarcy by simply tossing it aside. The military would do nothing.

then that makes us Americans by default

Declaration of Independence, de facto if not de jure

at which point, I want my American freedom

screw your Canadian pseudo "freedom"

[Nationalist]

10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

then that makes us Americans by default

Declaration of Independence, de facto if not de jure

at which point, I want my American freedom

screw your Canadian pseudo "freedom"

It's not "my" Canadian freedom.

It "our's".

Doug if you're really that disenchanted by Canada, shouldn't you move to a place you can like being in?

Edited March 15, 2023 by Nationalist

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

It's not "my" Canadian freedom.

It "our's".

Doug if you're really that disenchanted by Canada, shouldn't you move to a place you can like being in?

I can't just pick up my life and move it at the drop of a hat

I was following the Canadian constitution

I didn't leave Canada, Canada left me, right out from under my feet

so just consider me to be an Ex-pat American on Canadian soil for now

there's no law against it

I pay my taxes

nothing binds me to love your fake country where the government invokes "the Crown" as its authority

when you say nobody in Canada even believes in it

I don't have to love that

that is a two timing b*tch who stabbed me in the back

so I have taken another lover

and her name is America

[eyeball]

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

Many Canadian politicians and governments at all levels have turned a blind eye to Chinese interference for decades.

Tasha Kheiriddin: Jagmeet Singh must pull support for Justin Trudeau's Liberals (msn.com)

It's because the public has been blind all this time. Asleep really - now its woke to it.

Yawwwwn.

Sorry but I'm tired of saying told you so after all these decades.

[Goddess]

 

 

[blackbird]

Influence from China has been growing for decades.

We also know that if anybody complained about Chinese Communist influence or interference in our country they would have been dismissed as a wacko or a racist.  Yet birth tourism for one thing is a common thing.  Women from China and elsewhere fly in to have their babies born in B.C. so they will have Canadian citizenship.  Then leave after the baby is born and gets its citizenship. Citizenship is handed out like McDonalds toys for kids.  It is a useful tool for the future.

  Foreign money has purchased billions of dollars worth of real estate in Canada and nothing was ever done about it.  Organizations were established in Canada as friendship organizations and nothing was every said to oppose that.   Then you had the twinning of towns or cities, another ridiculous scheme. Tens of thousands of students are brought in from China to study in our universities.  Lots of money was donated to the Trudeau Foundation from people with ties to foreign governments.  What exactly was that money used for? 

Now we have a situation where Australia, the UK, and the US have formed a military alliance to protect their interests (AUKUS) and Canada is not part of it.   I wonder why.  Is it because they don't trust Canada or is it because Canada is heavily influenced by China, or is it because Canada doesn't want to join and prefers to be all things to all countries (a globalist of some kind) and a pacifist nation?  Perhaps a combination of these reasons.

Edited March 15, 2023 by blackbird

[Nationalist]

11 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

I can't just pick up my life and move it at the drop of a hat

I was following the Canadian constitution

I didn't leave Canada, Canada left me, right out from under my feet

so just consider me to be an Ex-pat American on Canadian soil for now

there's no law against it

I pay my taxes

nothing binds me to love your fake country where the government invokes "the Crown" as its authority

when you say nobody in Canada even believes in it

I don't have to love that

that is a two timing b*tch who stabbed me in the back

so I have taken another lover

and her name is America

OK.

[Dougie93]

8 hours ago, Nationalist said:

OK.

frankly, all the things that I embraced when I was a Canadian Nationalist ?

the history, the culture, the art, the music ?

I rarely encounter a Canadian anymore, who even knows what I'm talking about

my Canadian Nationalism is so old school, Canadians don't actually embrace it anymore

the culture of Canada now, is all going down on the internet with smartphones

that's not even recognizably Canadian to me

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

frankly, all the things that I embraced when I was a Canadian Nationalist ?

the history, the culture, the art, the music ?

I rarely encounter a Canadian anymore, who even knows what I'm talking about

my Canadian Nationalism is so old school, Canadians don't actually embrace it anymore

the culture of Canada now, is all going down on the internet with smartphones

that's not even recognizably Canadian to me

All culture is going down that path. The Internet made it possible to slowly merge cultures. 

Canada to me is the Maritime accent, Les Quebecois, the Ottawa River filled with EB Eddy match stick logs, Doughnuts, Bass fishing, Trout fishing at the foot of the Rockies, The Okanogan, Stompin' Tom, April Wine, Trooper...

Canada is a good place. Filled with good intentioned people. Our biggest faux pas has been trying to be like America. I don't want to be like the USA. I want to be Canadian...and I am.

King or no King.

[Dougie93]

8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Canada to me is the Maritime accent, Stompin' Tom, April Wine, Trooper...

I still have my Nova Scotia accent

it was the accent of the Canadian Army in my day too

every Sargent Major spoke with that Nova Scotia drawl

every infantry soldier emulated them

but my family in Nova Scotia, they never said they were "Canadian"

if you asked them what they were, they would say Nova Scotian

although the greatest Nova Scotian bard, was actually from Hamilton Ontario

[Dougie93]

23 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

 Stompin' Tom, April Wine, Trooper...

but who is the greatest Canadian act of all time now ?

Aubrey Graham

I met him once, when he was still Aubrey

at an after party event for Degrassi Junior High, in Toronto

he went to Forest Hill Collegiate, he's a Jewish kid from the Jewish neighbourhood, at Bathusrt & Eglington

American-Canadian, just like me : American father, Canadian mother

but I'm the real 6ix God, Drake just plays me on tv

[Dougie93]

44 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Stompin' Tom, April Wine, Trooper...

don't forget Corb Lund

he's a personal friend of mine

the Hurtin' Albertan

[Nationalist]

27 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but who is the greatest Canadian act of all time now ?

Aubrey Graham

I met him once, when he was still Aubrey

at an after party event for Degrassi Junior High, in Toronto

he went to Forest Hill Collegiate, he's a Jewish kid from the Jewish neighbourhood, at Bathusrt & Eglington

American-Canadian, just like me : American father, Canadian mother

but I'm the real 6ix God, Drake just plays me on tv

Lol...I first heard of Drake back when my daughter was about 16. She's been a model since about then and lives in those circles. She got one of her borthers a job at some fancy Yorkville restaurant the the guy and his Klingons like to frequent.

I find the music he makes...not pleasant. Not melodic. Harldy musical. But...my parents hated the music I liked too so...

One of my all time favorites though is...

"And when good lord, turns bad, it seems everything is wrong."

Edited March 15, 2023 by Nationalist