CdnFox Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I'm simply responding to your posting at me Well that's the thing - you're not. You're noticing i'm not buying your nonsense and you feel compelled to try to explain yourself at great length to justify your position. I don't do that. I just respond essentially with 'yeah well whatever' and don't really care. You become emotionally invested and frenzied to convince people your vision of reality has some merit. Sorry - too late to go back and fix that now. Like i said I'm not your threrapist, you'll have to learn how to live with your views on your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, Dougie93 said: again, this is simply ad hominem, Again - desperate and frantic to convince others. Sigh Oh - and that's not what "ad hominem" means. It's not 'ad hominem' in the slightest. I'm not discounting your argument just because YOU are dumb, i'm saying it's a dumb argument. At least bother to look up what words mean before you use them, if it's not too much trouble. You can start with Honour perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: you'll have to learn how to live with your views on your own. I don't see what's wrong with my views If had been directed to close with and destroy forces from a Commonwealth member country I would have obeyed those orders, since the Commonwealth is not a military alliance what's wrong with that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Contrarian said: Yup, definitely the Curriculum Vitae of someone that worked at DFAIT. ? ? Is a free market of ideas, do you allow me to question you the same way you questioned my citizenship?! Why are you so agitated? You did it to me, I do it to you. Physics. -> <- Well it looks like Doug is willing to take you to court over your BS. BTW...my "curriculum vitae" is pretty darn impressive. I've only divulged one of my accomplishments. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I don't see what's wrong with my views And yet you must know SOMETHING is deep down - you keep coming back desperate to try to get someone to buy into them and agree with you. Honest ideals held by honest men don't need others to justify them. There is much wrong with what you've said, but if you have to explain the concepts to someone it's probably better that they just muddle along with their misconceptions. You're probably not hurting anyone with it. But it's like explaiing a joke to someone - they ain't gonna 'get it' if you have to spell it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Well it looks like Doug is willing to take you to court over your BS. I certainly reserve the right to defend my reputation when someone is defaming me as being a "Neo Nazi" I don't subscribe to National Socialism nor anything like I find it to be just as repugnant as Soviet Bolshevism I advocate for American freedom which was in fact what defeated both the Nazis and the Bolsheviks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Contrarian said: 1. I don't think "Dougie" or whoever he is, he did give me a fake name and rank once, has any idea what he is doing. I am starting to think, there might be other issues there going on and sometimes is best to leave someone like that to go about his way, is bad Karma for me to keep exposing his lies and screenshots. Oh boy, the material that I have, his own words, some still there, the 2019 material is the best. 2. Oh yah, I am sure, which is your type of writing, for sure, you are a true role model for everyone. Just the fact that you agree with someone that said Canada is a fake country, and you call yourself a Nationalist, shows me that also, it might be something wrong upstairs. We all have issues man, you know mine, with the whisky, but it gives me hope when I see people that are sober, is 11 AM in the morning, so I am assuming you are sober, think this way. Not that bad myself, then. I have never thought such people exist, even on the internet, truly, is a comedy daily. Another problem you have is logic. I never said I agree Canada is a fake country, nor have I agreed about that. But I can agree with some points Doug makes and not others. Hell you and I have agreed with points the other has made. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Contrarian said: Do the work, get a job, hire a detective, find me, and then proceed that way if you would like. Then the judge can talk about satire, our screenshots, etc, etc, etc. Until then, can you consider this thread without your consecutive posts non-sense? Or this is your corner now and you run around the fire thinking you own the place? The inclusivity that was given to you. Good for this society, this is why I came here too because is more tolerant. Is great other people rather than me lead it, that's for sure. I see my limitations. you are declaiming me for saying I would go to war against the forces of a Commonwealth country if attacked I'm saying there is nothing wrong with that, because the Commonwealth is not a military alliance, just a cultural organization, to include many hostile countries then you are declaiming for for saying that Canada is not a real country that's just my opinion, Canada doesn't meet the threshold of a Westphalian nation state in my view then you are declaiming me as being a MAGA Republican that's no crime where I come from, MAGA is the motto of Ronald Reagan, the Republican party are the only ones in America who defend & uphold the constitution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Another problem you have is logic. I never said I agree Canada is a fake country, nor have I agreed about that. But I can agree with some points Doug makes and not others. I don't oppose you being a Canadian Nationalist I simply say that I don't even know what that means anymore I can read the Constitution Act of 1982 it says right at the top that HM King Charles III is the Sovereign, Head of State & Commander-in-Chief then Canadians will tell me that is "crazy" so I am at a loss, is there some secret constitution they are referencing, which I am not aware of ? Edited March 12, 2023 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I don't oppose you being a Canadian Nationalist I simply say that I don't even know what that means anymore I can read the Constitution Act of 1982 it says right at the top that HM King Charles III is the Sovereign, Head of State & Commander-in-Chief then Canadians will tell me that is "crazy" so I am at a loss, is there some secret constitution they are referencing, which I am not aware of ? Lol...no. it is what it is. The crown is simply a figurehead. I'm no constitutional scholar but, doesn't the Canadian government retain the ultimate control of the military? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Lol...no. it is what it is. The crown is simply a figurehead. I'm no constitutional scholar but, doesn't the Canadian government retain the ultimate control of the military? according the Constitution Act, the Canadian Government is actually a person, named Charles Wales that is how the Constitutional Monarchy works the nation is embodied by a person, who is the heir to the throne of England Edited March 12, 2023 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Lol...no. it is what it is. The crown is simply a figurehead. I'm no constitutional scholar but, doesn't the Canadian government retain the ultimate control of the military? bear in mind, when Canada "Patriated" the constitution in 1982 that gave Canada the option to change the Constitution Act without the approval of the British government but Canada did not actually remove the monarch as Sovereign, Head of State & Commander-in-Chief quite the opposite, Canada reasserted that the King of England is the King of Canada, in 1982 Canada could remove the King from the constitution if Canada chose to do so but Canada hasn't chosen to do that yet Edited March 12, 2023 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I'm no constitutional scholar but okay, but if you ask me what American nationalism is I can easily explain it it is defending & upholding the Declaration of Independence and associated Constitution then you can simply go and read all that in writing, to determine what it is that Americans defend & uphold so if I ask you what Canadian nationalism is how would you explain that to me ? lay it out for me, what does it consist of ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Dougie93 said: according the Constitution Act, the Canadian Government is actually a person, named Charles Wales that is how the Constitutional Monarchy works the nation is embodied by a person, who is the heir to the throne of England So how did Canada stay out of Iraq then? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So how did Canada stay out of Iraq then? but Canada didn't stay out of Iraq first of all, the Canadian Forces did deploy in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003 Canada simply did not deploy ground forces, only the RCN & RCAF but furthermore, Canada was in Iraq for years in fact, with boots on the ground under Operation Impact, deploying CANSOFCOM JTF2 snipers hold he world record longest kill that shot was taken in Mosul Iraq, in support of the Iraqi National Army CANSOFCOM has only suffered one Operator killed in action which was Blue on Blue, when he was killed by fratricide by the Kurdish Peshmerga, in Erbil Iraq Canadian CF-18's & CP-140's also conducted an air campaign against ISIS in Iraq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 Jesus, you people are boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Dougie93 said: but Canada didn't stay out of Iraq first of all, the Canadian Forces did deploy in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003 Canada simply did not deploy ground forces, only the RCN & RCAF but furthermore, Canada was in Iraq for years in fact, with boots on the ground under Operation Impact, deploying CANSOFCOM JTF2 snipers hold he world record longest kill that shot was taken in Mosul Iraq, in support of the Iraqi National Army CANSOFCOM has only suffered one Operator killed in action which was Blue on Blue, when he was killed by fratricide by the Kurdish Peshmerga, in Erbil Iraq Canadian CF-18's & CP-140's also conducted an air campaign against ISIS in Iraq Yet Canada was not part of the "coalition of the willing". Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Yet Canada was not part of the "coalition of the willing". Canada was still party to the conflict training Iraqi army & police post occupation, providing funding to the Coalition Provisional Authority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: training Iraqi army & police post occupation, providing funding to the Coalition Provisional Authority That would be party to the after-conflict. That would not be party to the conflict. If someone were to bomb a country, and canada went in and provided aid afterwards, you could not say Canada bombed the country or participated in the bombing. In fact we had no participation in that war and spoke against it. We provided aid afterwards. That is not even remotely the same as participating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Canada was still party to the conflict training Iraqi army & police post occupation, providing funding to the Coalition Provisional Authority Hmm... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Nationalist said: Hmm... is this part of your explanation of Canadian nationalism ? that Ottawa vacillated on Iraq ? first claiming that they needed the UN's permission to participate then flip flopping and participating without UN authorization after all what does that say about Canadian nationalism ? I'm not seeing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Dougie93 said: is this part of your explanation of Canadian nationalism ? that Ottawa vacillated on Iraq ? first claiming that they needed the UN's permission to participate then flip flopping and participating without UN authorization after all what does that say about Canadian nationalism ? I'm not seeing it You appear to have a rather large chip on your shoulder. Can't say I blame you after the last decade. But Canada does control its own military. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Dougie93 said: is this part of your explanation of Canadian nationalism ? that Ottawa vacillated on Iraq ? first claiming that they needed the UN's permission to participate then flip flopping and participating without UN authorization after all what does that say about Canadian nationalism ? I'm not seeing it This is pretty simple. Canada didn't want to participate in the war. The war went on without us. After the war canada took on many roles to help the country recover. That is different. You're trying to conflate the two and it's just not the same thing at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 9 hours ago, Nationalist said: You appear to have a rather large chip on your shoulder. Can't say I blame you after the last decade. But Canada does control its own military. I'm simply asking what you are nationalist about exactly you diverted off into the Iraq War, I'm not seeing the connection with respect, as your friend, I'm just asking a question why are you a Canadian nationalist ? I have found it to be a fool's errand, and I can articulate exactly why I'm just wondering what your argument would be, for Canadian nationalism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 10 hours ago, Nationalist said: But Canada does control its own military. but control of a military does not a nation make there are plenty of non state armed forces in the world NATO being the most prominent NATO is not a country, yet it has control of all armed forces under its command Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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