UCP leadership Alberta new premier

[Jack9000]

will  be decided tonight in few hours looking like danielle smith's to lose  . discuss

[500channelsurfer]

The Wildrose is in

[RedDog]

I’m liking what she’s saying. It’s about time.

[Aristides]

Smith got 53% of the vote on the sixth ballot and Kenney quit because he only got 51.4 % in a leadership review . Rachel Knotley must be the happiest person in Alberta this morning.

Edited October 7, 2022 by Aristides

[blackbird]

22 hours ago, Aristides said:

Smith got 53% of the vote on the sixth ballot and Kenney quit because he only got 51.4 % in a leadership review . Rachel Knotley must be the happiest person in Alberta this morning.

53% when a party chooses a leader from a number of contenders by ranked ballot is not the same as Kenney being affirmed as Premier with 51.4%.  You are comparing apples and oranges.  Choosing a party leader by ranked ballot is often done that way because there were many candidates running, something like six or so candidates and the ballots are weighted depending on the riding they came from.

  She was chosen on the sixth ballot. Because the system of ranked ballots is used and there were a large number of contenders, the outcome is no indication that she has low support.  Also once the voting is done and the winner is chosen, the party will unite around her.

Kenney should have had 65% or 70% to continue.  He was the only one on the ballot.  It was a yes or no choice.   So it is a totally different situation.

Edited October 8, 2022 by blackbird

[Aristides]

59 minutes ago, blackbird said:

53% when a party chooses a leader from a number of contenders by ranked ballot is not the same as Kenney being affirmed as Premier with 51.4%.  You are comparing apples and oranges.  Choosing a party leader by ranked ballot is often done that way because there were many candidates running, something like six or so candidates and the ballots are weighted depending on the riding they came from.

  She was chosen on the sixth ballot. Because the system of ranked ballots is used and there were a large number of contenders, the outcome is no indication that she has low support.  Also once the voting is done and the winner is chosen, the party will unite around her.

Kenney should have had 65% or 70% to continue.  He was the only one on the ballot.  It was a yes or no choice.   So it is a totally different situation.

It still means that after six ballots, 47% didn't want her.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

It still means that after six ballots, 47% didn't want her.

No, it means 47% preferred a different leader during the process, but after the vote they accept the decision of the majority. 

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

No, it means 47% preferred a different leader during the process, but after the vote they accept the decision of the majority. 

Yes 47% wanted someone else. Of course they accept the decision of the majority, this isn't the US.

[herbie]

Amazing how only 51% support caused a resignation, but 53% (after 6 rounds!) is a victory.

[ironstone]

On 10/7/2022 at 11:02 AM, Aristides said:

Smith got 53% of the vote on the sixth ballot and Kenney quit because he only got 51.4 % in a leadership review . Rachel Knotley must be the happiest person in Alberta this morning.

I thought the Alberta NDP experiment was a disaster to put it mildly. Anything is possible but hopefully Albertans will never make the same mistake twice and put in the socialists again.

[MajorJo]

Danielle smith is a real Conservative imo she is not watered down like most UCP.

[Jack9000]

23 hours ago, ironstone said:

I thought the Alberta NDP experiment was a disaster to put it mildly. Anything is possible but hopefully Albertans will never make the same mistake twice and put in the socialists again.

mistake lmao? Ndp was the best thing alberta did in 40 years...  40 years of  right wing cons  have done nothing for alberta lmao.  danielle smith will also be easier to beat in a election then the other choices because she can't help herself with that mouth of hers.. shes about as bright as a  brick wall.

[herbie]

Yes, all those campers in their 40 ft motor home towing a 28 ft boat told us just how awful it was under the NDP.
Yet when we went to Alberta everyone there was working, the roads were all being redone, the motels and cafes were full and all our freinds were telling us to pack up and move there....

[ironstone]

7 hours ago, Jack9000 said:

mistake lmao? Ndp was the best thing alberta did in 40 years...  40 years of  right wing cons  have done nothing for alberta lmao.  danielle smith will also be easier to beat in a election then the other choices because she can't help herself with that mouth of hers.. shes about as bright as a  brick wall.

I can't argue that Alberta Conservatives weren't getting complacent but any province that goes full-on NDP is going to suffer. We learned that the hard way here in Ontario with Bob Rae.

[Nationalist]

I wish her luck.

Her opposition is a big fan of ranked ballots...hopefully she can explain it to them.

[TreeBeard]

Looks like the new Alberta premier has walked back the sovereignty nonsense already.  I wonder what her supporters think of her doing that on day 1?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/sovereignty-act-danielle-smith-alberta-1.6612197
 

And then in her first speech she says the unvaccinated are the most discriminated-against group she has seen in her lifetime.   
Predictably, she has had to “clarify” what she meant and will be meeting with minority groups to explain herself.  Next, will come an apology, I think.  

[Jack9000]

I don't think she will last long she's to unlikable lol and she hurts herself every time she opens her mouth

[Zeitgeist]

Her only mistake was backing off her claim about unvaccinated people being the most mistreated in our society in recent years.  She was right.  Minorities are treated much better, same with LGBTQ2I plus.  Just look at the trans teacher with the giant fake breasts.  She’s practically considered a saint and has the full protection of police and school board.  I just want conservatives to be conservative and let the snivelling left wing sucks shit their pants before people who stand by strong values.  

Edited October 15, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Nationalist]

On 10/10/2022 at 5:15 PM, herbie said:

Yes, all those campers in their 40 ft motor home towing a 28 ft boat told us just how awful it was under the NDP.
Yet when we went to Alberta everyone there was working, the roads were all being redone, the motels and cafes were full and all our freinds were telling us to pack up and move there....

Lol...

OK Alberta. Thank the nice socialists for...roads...so the Tweenkies can sleep at night.

[herbie]

Yes, and there were so many visitors at the time locals referred to those people as "Albortions".
No one around here's surprised an anti-vax Convidiot Residential School burial denying Trump lackey like Danielle "Palin" won the UCP.

[Zeitgeist]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

Yes, and there were so many visitors at the time locals referred to those people as "Albortions".
No one around here's surprised an anti-vax Convidiot Residential School burial denying Trump lackey like Danielle "Palin" won the UCP.

I’m starting to use your negative remarks as a method for deciding if I like someone.  Danielle might actually be pretty good.  I just hope she sticks to her guns despite the criticism of the woke mob.  Alberta is the province with the best chance of overcoming the radical left.  I like that province, but they may have to get out of Canada to maintain their integrity and democracy.  

[herbie]

Woke. The radical Left,

Dupe.

The 'woke shit' didn't lessen one bit under Harper or Trump so it's got nothing to do with left or right or politics in general. We can tell that the 'right' is so played out and disproven that it's the only thing they can think about so might as well blame 'the left' for it.
Anything remotely decent or addressing social inequities is counter to social conservatism, isn't it? You don't want a fiscally responsible and fair gov't to run the country, you want someone that will impose your views on everyone else and to hell with managing a country.

[Aristides]

On 10/14/2022 at 8:27 PM, Zeitgeist said:

Her only mistake was backing off her claim about unvaccinated people being the most mistreated in our society in recent years.  She was right.  Minorities are treated much better, same with LGBTQ2I plus.  Just look at the trans teacher with the giant fake breasts.  She’s practically considered a saint and has the full protection of police and school board.  I just want conservatives to be conservative and let the snivelling left wing sucks shit their pants before people who stand by strong values.  

What vaccination status? If she has her way you could wind up in an Alberta hospital and get Hepatitis or some other disease from an unvaccinated health care worker. She's a loon.

[Aristides]

The knothead thought Ukraine still had nukes. Albertan's sure got themselves a prize.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ukraine-calgary-edmonton-danielle-smith-1.6618612

[TreeBeard]

31 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The knothead thought Ukraine still had nukes. Albertan's sure got themselves a prize.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ukraine-calgary-edmonton-danielle-smith-1.6618612

For a Premier, she sure is ignorant of basic facts.  Also, buys into conspiracy theories….  hey…. did she post here I wonder???  She’d fit in!