Where do you land? Is socialism a failed experiment or have we just not tried the right kind?

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, West said:

Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming. 

 

 

All of them had lots of restrictions. Maybe no quarantines unless you were infected, but still lots of restrictions.

Edited October 7, 2022 by ExFlyer

[West]

30 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

All of them had lots of restrictions. Maybe no quarantines unless you were infected, but still lots of restrictions.

Between 10 and 15 did not implement mandatory face diaper wearing. Others did but then soon realized that it was all a pledge of allegiance to the vile left wing and soon scraped it when they realized it was just to scare people and nothing to do with health

[herbie]

20 hours ago, Aristides said:

How was that different from the US?

Didn't go bankrupt if you got hospitalized.

Freedumb! Freedumb! Still whining like babies about masks even.

[eyeball]

8 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Socialism is a doctrine that "calls for" control over "everything that people produce" as well as their property and it tells anyone that might benefit from your loss they are entitled to it.

So it's a doctrine that has little or nothing to do with anything governments in Canada do.

I suppose if you choose to believe the word regulate means total control and that governments regulate every single thing you do you might believe this but...

You really do believe this don't you?  How you manage to make it through the day without MAID is beyond me. 

Edited October 8, 2022 by eyeball

[ExFlyer]

 

12 hours ago, West said:

Between 10 and 15 did not implement mandatory face diaper wearing. Others did but then soon realized that it was all a pledge of allegiance to the vile left wing and soon scraped it when they realized it was just to scare people and nothing to do with health

Stop the whining already. It is long over.

Get with the times and stop whining about the past. Whining about the past will not change the past.

[West]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

 

Stop the whining already. It is long over.

Get with the times and stop whining about the past. Whining about the past will not change the past.

Not whining. The threads about socialism and the pandemic response is just one example of its failures. 

Also wait lists out the ars for any surgeries or therapies

[Michael Hardner]

Nobody has get explained why public health responses, essentially the same in all the Western countries, are socialism.

[ExFlyer]

30 minutes ago, West said:

Not whining. The threads about socialism and the pandemic response is just one example of its failures. 

Also wait lists out the ars for any surgeries or therapies

Of course it is whining. You cannot get over bygone days. Complaining about yesterdays events are whining and pointless. It's over and done with.

Health care is a different topic.

Edited October 8, 2022 by ExFlyer

[blackbird]

15 hours ago, MajorJo said:

As I am a Marxist I believe in pure Communism of which has never been practiced due to the billionaire elites doing anything they can to avoid it. 

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Does the Bible support communism?

Communism is an economic system where the means of production are owned by society and the governing body is tasked with distributing the wealth to all so that each person presumably receives equally or in accordance with their needs. This means that all property and businesses are owned by the government and not private citizens. This economic system is intended to eliminate inequality between rich (the "bourgeoisie") and poor (the "proletariat"). As an ideology, it is highly influenced by the ideas of Karl Marx and also related to the socialist movement.

In theory some of the ideas of communism appear to be compatible with the Bible. However, in practice, communism has been shown to lead to very negative outcomes. Rather than a gap between rich and poor, a gap is created between those with power and those without. Generally a governing body without much public accountability takes control, corruption ensues, and the population at large suffers. Even assuming a case where the governing body were not corrupt, when an equal outcome is guaranteed, the impetus for innovation or hard work is removed, and with it the positive results of those traits. Rather than truly help the poor, communism has a tendency to make all equally impoverished.   unquote    For the rest of the article go to:

Does the Bible support communism? (compellingtruth.org)

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Capitalism is actually a better system when it comes to giving because it has proven to increase individual wealth, which allows its citizens to give out of their increase. Communism has proven to simply make all its citizens poor, except the very few in power who decide where the wealth goes. But even capitalism won’t work, by itself, as a system for aiding the poor. It depends on its citizens to be diligent (Proverbs 10:4) and generous with the fruits of their labor (1 Timothy 6:18) and to give out of love for God and neighbor. Thus, we see that God has designed for the physical and financial needs of the poor to be met by Christian individuals, rather than by any system of government.   unquote    For more info:

Does the Bible support Communism? | GotQuestions.org

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But we do have something to fear, and even Christians, intelligent in the Word of God, do not always understand the implications of Communism. Our real enemy is not Russia, and neither is our real enemy Communism. Our real enemy is the atheistic blasphemy that is behind it. It is the unbelief in God and in Christ, and a turning away from belief in the God of the Scripture. Here in America it is necessary for us to fight Communism. It is necessary for us to arm in order to protect ourselves as a nation. Nevertheless, our real enemy is not Communism, nor a political theory. Our real danger is the godlessness and the atheism of our day. Some will say there are not very many people who are atheists. Perhaps not, at least they are not the kind who stand on soap boxes and proclaim atheism. But there are many today who are living in practical atheism; living as if God did not exist; living as if there were no heaven, no hell, no judgment, and no divine reckoning with human sin. Yes, America’s real enemy is not Communism. It is the blasphemous unbelief in God behind Communism that is our true enemy.   unquote     For more information:

10. The Future of Communism According to The Bible | Bible.org

 

Note:   The real enemy is behind Communism which is the blasphemous atheism or anti-God ideology.

Edited October 8, 2022 by blackbird

[West]

31 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Of course it is whining. You cannot get over bygone days. Complaining about yesterdays events are whining and pointless. It's over and done with.

Health care is a different topic.

You still have losers denying people jobs over a faulty vaxx

[West]

42 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Nobody has get explained why public health responses, essentially the same in all the Western countries, are socialism.

Publicly funded medicine and "protecting healthcare" were supposedly the reason for the nonsense. 

If you cannot see the relevance, then not very swift

[ExFlyer]

52 minutes ago, blackbird said:

quote

Does the Bible support communism?

Communism is an economic system ........

Capitalism is actually a better system ........

Does the Bible support Communism? | GotQuestions.org

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But we do have something to fear, and even Christians, intelligent in the Word of God, .......

 

Note:   The real enemy is behind Communism which is the blasphemous atheism or anti-God ideology.

 

[ExFlyer]

25 minutes ago, West said:

You still have losers denying people jobs over a faulty vaxx

Huh? vaxx?   Is that something from long ago too? LOL

Decisions made, consequences felt.

 

[Iteration]

I have not seen any evidence of socialism functioning successfully. If this is not the case, I am open to seeing such evidence, but I am yet to in my experience. 

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

 

Not true.  Conspiracy theories are believed by a cross section of society.   Conspiracy theories have nothing to do with biblical truth.  Bible believers believe the Bible, not conspiracy theories.   Biblical faith is based on evidence which is overwhelming.  Atheists are blasphemous enemies of God and on the way to hell according to biblical revelation.

The fact is there is a conspiracy by Satan to control the world and establish his kingdom.  There is a conspiracy of the U.N. and other international groups to control the world.  That is no theory.  It is an obvious fact.  A one-world system of the anti-Christ is also prophesied in the Bible thousands of years ago and we see the world heading that way.

Edited October 8, 2022 by blackbird

[ExFlyer]

9 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Not true.  Biblical faith is based on evidence which is overwhelming.  Atheists are blasphemous enemies of God and on the way to hell according to biblical revelation.

Yes, It's True.

Biblical truth is based on one book of stories. Just as truthful or untruthful as stories handed down generation to generation from tribes without written language.

Embellished over the generations. The real truth had been lost eons ago.

 

Edited October 8, 2022 by ExFlyer

[Aristides]

On 10/6/2022 at 9:50 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

I dunno if CPP is socialism.  I pay into it.  It's more a program to prevent mass starvation of old people who were too stupid to save/invest money when they worked for when they retire.  CPP is stupidity insurance.

It's compulsory so it is socialism. Paying into Social Security is also compulsory in the US.

[Moonlight Graham]

10 minutes ago, Aristides said:

It's compulsory so it is socialism. Paying into Social Security is also compulsory in the US.

But it's my own money. And it's not equal, it's based on how much you paid into it.  Seat belts are also compulsory, are they socialism?

[Iteration]

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Seat belts are also compulsory, are they socialism?

Seat belts are not an economic transaction or activity, so this seems immaterial to what has been placed forward. The don't have anything to do with the redistribution of private property. 

[Dougie93]

22 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

But it's my own money. And it's not equal, it's based on how much you paid into it.  Seat belts are also compulsory, are they socialism?

see, your fellow Canadians are convinced that Socialism is nothing more than the Welfare State

not really tho

as the first modern Welfare State was in Imperial Germany, under Kaiser I & Otto von Bismark

Socialism & the Welfare State is not the same thing

Socialism is a religion, Marx & Engels their profits, Hegelian myth of human progress

hence why they cxall themselves "Progressives"

yet these are the godless zealots who mass murdered over 100 million innocent people in the 20th century

it's not actually about public services, that's just classical liberalism

Socialism on the other hand,

is supposedly the mechanism to achieve a perfectly egalitarian Communist Utopia

Edited October 8, 2022 by Dougie93

[West]

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

 

Lol.. sounds like the University system. 

72 genders? Yeah if you say so. Sounds like they are trying to rip off Ben and Jerrys or something

Edited October 8, 2022 by West

[Aristides]

39 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

But it's my own money. And it's not equal, it's based on how much you paid into it. 

It is your money but by law you have to contribute. 

All taxes you pay are your money.

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Seat belts are also compulsory, are they socialism?

Not for me but for some, any laws that dictate behaviour are socialism. 

Edited October 8, 2022 by Aristides

[ExFlyer]

49 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

But it's my own money. And it's not equal, it's based on how much you paid into it.  Seat belts are also compulsory, are they socialism?

Your employer pays into CPP the same amount as you. Same as EI.

if you think that small amount you pay will take you far into retirement, you are dreaming.

So, the socialist system pays for it for you.

[blackbird]

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Yes, It's True.

Biblical truth is based on one book of stories. Just as truthful or untruthful as stories handed down generation to generation from tribes without written language.

Embellished over the generations. The real truth had been lost eons ago.

 

The Bible is God's inspired word.  You think God cannot preserve his written revelation to mankind.  Only blasphemous atheists deny God and his word.

[herbie]

7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Nobody has get explained why public health responses, essentially the same in all the Western countries, are socialism.

And nobody will, most can't even explain socialism itself. The ONE country in the entire world without public health care defines it as 'socialist healthcare' so it must be so, eh? CPP, EI, Mediacl, Workers Comp, Welfare are vaguely socialist so we better get rid of them....

You can spot the smooth brains by the irrelevant to the discussion songs and Bible quotes they compulsively post.

Half of them can't define JOB FFS acting like it's a right that they get to decide. If your Boss says you need to wear a hard hat, take a piss test and get vaxxed for effing ebola then that's what you do if you want to keep it. Snivelling about socialists and Trudeau mandates is a whiney cop out as obviously your job is not the most important thing to you. Zero sympathies.