Nationalist Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, Army Guy said: The fighting is about Ukraine not willing to part with 20 % of their country, and Russia using force under some ridiculous claim of riding the area of Nazi's...This was an internal issue for the Ukrainian government and the people of the east to solve, not for Mother Russia to step into, at the cost of well over 60, 000 Russia soldiers and god knows how many Ukrainians. Putin was expecting a quick military victory, same as the last time, with the western world quickly forgetting the other annexations. And now he has stepped in a pile of shit, and the only way out of this is either nuclear war, or Putin's death. There are democratic counties that do not allow succession or separation, such as the US etc, and all those people that voted in favor have the option of moving back to Mother Russia, there are no squatters' rights when it comes to nations. And why is any of that, any of our business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So Neo-Nazis attacking folks because they voted for independence is democracy? Even if that was true, would that call for a full scale invasion? You really believe all Putin propaganda dontcha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So Neo-Nazis attacking folks because they voted for independence is democracy? The strategy being used by Putin in Ukraine is identical to that used by Hitler in the Anschluss, Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia and Poland. You have the Nazi label pinned on the wrong shirt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: And why is any of that, any of our business? Because Ukraine falls, Poland is next. It's in NATO's interest not to have Putin annexing buffer nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Aristides said: The strategy being used by Putin in Ukraine is identical to that used by Hitler in the Anschluss, Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia and Poland. You have the Nazi label pinned on the wrong shirt. Yeah but Putin isn't a Nazi. So it's completely different. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted October 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Patrick Lancaster happens to be a real person. He, like anyone who dare report anything not inline with the MSM narrative, is accused of all sorts of things...none of which are based in fact. There it is. The first, last and only line of defense in the conspiracy clown handbook. Screech about the MSM and how everything it says around the world is false, but the "journalist" embedded in the Russian army is delivering nothing but the truth. ? 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Eva Bartlet is a Canadian reporter pointing out the same thing as Lancaster. But ya...go demand a nice war to sooth your MSM induced paranoia. Then... I'll expect you to rush off to fight in your nice new war. Either that...or be called a COWARD. Those are some stupefying mental gymnastics you're doing there ser. The only person demanding war was your idol Vladimir, and with the myth of his power and genius crumbling to dust, you're trying desperately to cling to your alternate reality. "Nono! Russia Stronk! Glorious Leader will prevail! You are all cowards and war mongers! I want PEACE! Just let Putin take what he wants and everything will be good!" Edited October 3, 2022 by Moonbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Didn't I dismiss you? There's a old saying..."ya can't fix stupid". Thus...I can't help you with truth or ... anything. You're dismissed. You’re once again resorting to childish personal insults as lame attempt to compensate for your lack of facts or intelligence. Par for the course, right from the fascist thug playbook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: And why is any of that, any of our business? “Why is Poland any of Churchill’s business?” said fascists in 1939 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, BeaverFever said: “Why is Poland any of Churchill’s business?” said fascists in 1939 Chamberlain was PM in 1939. Churchill wasn't asked to form the government until the day of the invasion of France & the Lowlands. That would be May 10th, 1940. Case Yellow as the Krauts called it. Fall Gelb... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Chamberlain was PM in 1939. Churchill wasn't asked to form the government until the day of the invasion of France & the Lowlands. That would be May 10th, 1940. Case Yellow as the Krauts called it. Fall Gelb... I didn’t say Churchill was PM at the time. He was an outspoken critic of Nazi appeasement and Chamberlain long before he became PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: I didn’t say Churchill was PM at the time. He was an outspoken critic of Nazi appeasement and Chamberlain long before he became PM Yes indeed, very anti-Hitler AND Stalin...not very keen on Islam, either. But he was powerless until May 1940. Just in time for the famous Dunkirk evacuation and Battle of Britain. Saved us all by most scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Boges said: Even if that was true, would that call for a full scale invasion? You really believe all Putin propaganda dontcha? No. But I sure as hell don't believe CNN or any of the MSM either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Aristides said: The strategy being used by Putin in Ukraine is identical to that used by Hitler in the Anschluss, Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia and Poland. You have the Nazi label pinned on the wrong shirt. Really? You wouldn't be making shit up now...would ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Really? You wouldn't be making shit up now...would ya? I suppose the big difference was that countries like Czechoslovakia were the creation of the Allies post Great War. Keen to punish both Germany and Austria in particular. A big load of asking for trouble, in my opinion. Especially seeing that Serbia kicked off the whole affair...an Allied nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: And why is any of that, any of our business? Well for one we signed on to abide by the rule of law, international law, which states clearly that what Russia did was illegal, you cannot just invade another country without just cause. So, it is everyone's business when one or several nations decide it only applies when they want it to. Russia is a full member of the UN and should be setting an example, instead of flagrantly breaking it when it is convenient for them, and they are getting called out on it. And if that ends in the total destruction of the planet now or later so, be it. The law is for everyone not just a selected few. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 57 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Really? You wouldn't be making shit up now...would ya? Unbelievable, your ignorance of history is just stunning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: No. But I sure as hell don't believe CNN or any of the MSM either. Why would you believe real people who use their own names and can be held accountable for what they report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I suppose the big difference was that countries like Czechoslovakia were the creation of the Allies post Great War. Keen to punish both Germany and Austria in particular. A big load of asking for trouble, in my opinion. Especially seeing that Serbia kicked off the whole affair...an Allied nation. Czechoslovakia and Austria were parts of the former Austro Hungarian Empire, not Germany. They were never part of Germany. Edited October 3, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Aristides said: Czechoslovakia and Austria were parts of the former Austro Hungarian Empire, not Germany. They were never part of Germany. I mentioned Austria...top dog in the AHE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, DogOnPorch said: I mentioned Austria...top dog in the AHE. Yes and Austria kept its autonomy until Hitler invaded it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Aristides said: Yes and Austria kept its autonomy until Hitler invaded it. Well, Hitler was Austrian. Yet still thought Austria a part of Greater Germany which he said included parts of Poland, Czechoslovakia, France and a few others I likely missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Well, Hitler was Austrian. Yet still thought Austria a part of Greater Germany which he said included parts of Poland, Czechoslovakia, France and a few others I likely missed. Yes he was. So what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted October 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Really? You wouldn't be making shit up now...would ya? He's not. If you knew anything about history, you'd know that the pretexts that Hitler cooked up for the annexation of western Czechoslovakia were almost identical to Putin's for Ukraine. "Ethnic Germans Russians are being oppressed in the Sudetenland Donbas! We must intervene!" Magnificent work confirming everyone's impression of your ignorance. While raving about Neo-Nazis and parroting Kremlin talking points, you appear to know nothing about the actual Nazis whose footsteps Putin is following. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: Yes he was. So what? So what what? You appeared not to know. Stalin was Georgian and Khrushchev was Ukrainian...oh, he's a Russian now....thanks Wikipedia. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: So what what? You appeared not to know. Stalin was Georgian and Khrushchev was Ukrainian...oh, he's a Russian now....thanks Wikipedia. ? I knew he was Austrian. Georgia didn't make Stalin king nor Ukraine make Khrushchev king. Russians did. If we wind up with a foreign born PM one day, will that be justification for Canada invading that country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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