Nationalist Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 On 7/2/2022 at 8:19 AM, Michael Hardner said: There's no radicalism about supporting equal rights. It's a done deal. It's a fucked up deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: It's a fucked up deal. I would submit that denying people rights and providing comfort to their harassment is f'd up. But I believe in rights to happiness and freedom from violence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 7 hours ago, blackbird said: 1. If you want to wear symbols of LGBTQ+ that is your personal choice, but I disagree with taxpayer money being used to post symbols in public places, like rainbow crosswalks paid for by taxpayers or rainbow flags being put up on public buildings at taxpayer's expense and using public property to promote that ideology. 2. Churches are private property and therefore have a right to exist. There is a difference between using taxpayer money and people paying for something themselves. 1. Taxpayers want it, so you're out of luck. 2. Religions enjoy special accommodations and tax exemption. Your views on their status seem to be uninformed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I would submit that denying people rights and providing comfort to their harassment is f'd up. But I believe in rights to happiness and freedom from violence. they aren't being denied rights and very few are providing comfort to them being harassed this ain't Saudi Arabia the activists just pretend like it is Edited July 4, 2022 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 16 hours ago, blackbird said: think you have been listening to the anti-Christian propagandists who follow the Devil. Well, it's people like you that turn me against Christianity. People like the Christian friends I have who don't call others evil, who don't judge people because they are different, who follow Jesus' command to love others, even non-believers and sinners, are the best examples of Christianity. My Christian friends would never call you evil just because you practice Christianity differently than they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 58 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I would submit that denying people rights and providing comfort to their harassment is f'd up. But I believe in rights to happiness and freedom from violence. What harassment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: What harassment? Have you somehow missed reports on harassment and beatings LGBTQ+ people experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, dialamah said: Well, it's people like you that turn me against Christianity. People like the Christian friends I have who don't call others evil, who don't judge people because they are different, who follow Jesus' command to love others, even non-believers and sinners, are the best examples of Christianity. My Christian friends would never call you evil just because you practice Christianity differently than they do. why do you let the rotten apples spoil the barrel for you? there is no need to turn against Christianity just because you don't like some Christians and want to piss them off don't be so reactionary Edited July 4, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, dialamah said: Have you somehow missed reports on harassment and beatings LGBTQ+ people experience? it's not the 70's anymore that shit is rare and pushing radical leftist nonsense is going to increase harassment not diminish it pushing woke shit just makes it worse that's the best way to undermine the cause Edited July 4, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, dialamah said: Have you somehow missed reports on harassment and beatings LGBTQ+ people experience? My one son is gay. Nobody harasses him. My sister is gay. Nobody harasses her. Are people now so sensitive that they need the government to protect then from name-calling from assholes? Maybe such people should stop discoloring the Canadian flag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said: 1. they aren't being denied rights 2.and very few are providing comfort to them being harassed 3. ain't Saudi Arabia... the activists just pretend like it is 1. It's getting better but still need a ways to go. 2. I think saying that equal rights for LGBTQ are an "f'd up deal" is comforting to folks who would harass them. 3. You can't fly the rainbow in Saudi Arabia though, so maybe we can differentiate ourselves that way at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: My one son is gay. Nobody harasses him. My sister is gay. Nobody harasses her. Are people now so sensitive that they need the government to protect then from name-calling from assholes? Maybe such people should stop discoloring the Canadian flag. there is no such thing as "LGBTQ+" it a made up fake constituency concocted by corporate media elites in fact the TQ+ are the ones harassing the LGB now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. It's getting better but still need a ways to go. what rights are being denied? not seeing any they already have equal rights the woke are now pushing for extra rights it's not about equality that's just a lie that they use to sell their radical agenda to useful idiots who are easily tricked by the use of buzzwords Edited July 4, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, Nationalist said: 1. My one son is gay. Nobody harasses him. My sister is gay. Nobody harasses her. 2. Are people now so sensitive that they need the government to protect then from name-calling from assholes? 3. Maybe such people should stop discoloring the Canadian flag. 1. What does that prove ? 2. Or beatings ? 3. Very sensitive observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 16 hours ago, West said: I've been passed over for promotion where I was head and shoulders more qualified and more experienced because I wasn't brown enough. The company decided the most important characteristics was the person's skin colour because they didn't want to seem "racist". Anyway, no longer with them and doing much better on my own We aren't the ones peddling racist hiring practices based on skin tone ie affirmative action If you display the same rhetoric, attitude and comments at work as you do here, then it is not the colour of your skin that has kept you from promotion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: If you display the same rhetoric, attitude and comments at work as you do here, then it is not the colour of your skin that has kept you from promotion. he's not woke enough that could be it Edited July 4, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 the elites in Canada have chosen a divide & conquer strategy to cling cravenly to power this of course leads to ever greater civil disorder and associated violence the police are rendered incompetent by their corruption the military is rendered feeble by decades of dismantling thus the state will not be able to protect anyone in the end which will incite Canadians to clamber in desperation to have guns for their own defence so there is a silver lining 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 Trudeau is of course a fool to claim that Canadians have no right to self defence Section 7 of the Charter, right to security of the person if you want a gun for your protection now the 12 gauge slide action shotgun is non-Restricted, and is one of the most devastating firearms you could have no magazine capacity issues, you can hand load to the breach as you go you simply have to put in the time to train and master the art shit is going to hit the fan, so might as well get out ahead of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: the elites in Canada have chosen a divide & conquer strategy to cling cravenly to power this of course leads to ever greater civil disorder and associated violence the police are rendered incompetent by their corruption the military is rendered feeble by decades of dismantling thus the state will not be able to protect anyone in the end which will incite Canadians to clamber in desperation to have guns for their own defence so there is a silver lining chaos is a ladder silver lining hype city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: chaos is a ladder silver lining hype city the Liberal elites are dismantling Canada, right down to the colours American freedom is inevitably filling the resulting void by default f*ck yeah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: the Liberal elites are dismantling Canada, right down to the colours American freedom is inevitably filling the resulting void by default So weird that you decry 'elites' then post a picture of someone who subverted democracy, used the machinery of state to further his own goals right up to trying to subvert the election process. What is the essence of these 'elites' that you decry ? Power perhaps ? What is the best way to challenge them ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: So weird that you decry 'elites' then post a picture of someone who subverted democracy, used the machinery of state to further his own goals right up to trying to subvert the election process. What is the essence of these 'elites' that you decry ? Power perhaps ? What is the best way to challenge them ? the elites in Canada are the Laurentian Elites the Liberal Party of Canada and associated entrenched interests the best way to bring them down is to incite them into panic & overreach by provocation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: 1. the elites in Canada are the Laurentian Elites, the Liberal Party of Canada and associated entrenched interests 2. the best way to bring them down is to incite them into panic & overreach by provocation 1. Ok. That must connect with wealthy interests etc. 2. Incite them into panic ? I think your strategy is flawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: 2. Incite them into panic ? I think your strategy is flawed. I don't think so they are in fact bringing themselves down in an hysterical panic right now' already incited to attack the colours of Canada as a "hate symbol" this sort of flailing is driving them right into the trap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: That must connect with wealthy interests etc. the monied interests will prostrate themselves in terror at the feet of the right wing counterrevolution before too long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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