Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 the most important thong, once in power, is for the populist right to decapitate the armed forces purge the command and install one which is loyal to the cause then expand the armed forces, mobilization to crush the left when they attempt a counter attack no quarter, no mercy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: the most important thong, once in power, is for the populist right to decapitate the armed forces purge the command and install one which is loyal to the cause then expand the armed forces, mobilization to crush the left when they attempt a counter attack no quarter, no mercy Ok, so a right-wing coup d'etat ? You are all over the map. I thought you were pro-freedom, from this statement: " American freedom is inevitably filling the resulting void by default f*ck yeah " If you hate corporations, then a right-wing coup d'etat will establish them as the operational centre of the country. The government and military won't be able to keep order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: Ok, so a right-wing coup d'etat ? no coup de tat the Liberals are purging the command to install their proxies now that will simply be turned back against them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I thought you were pro-freedom, from this statement: freedom for the right by crushing the Communist traitors of the left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. What does that prove ? 2. Or beatings ? 3. Very sensitive observation. Ya it's all about your ever so important "feelings" isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: you hate corporations, I don't I am all for incorporation the corporations will simply be brought to heel to serve our interests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: by crushing the Communist traitors of the left Ok, thought you were advocating violence against peaceful opposition... Gee don't know why I thought that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: Ok, thought you were advocating violence against peaceful opposition... the Liberals already crossed that Rubicon just another thing we will turn back against them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, dialamah said: Well, it's people like you that turn me against Christianity. People like the Christian friends I have who don't call others evil, who don't judge people because they are different, who follow Jesus' command to love others, even non-believers and sinners, are the best examples of Christianity. My Christian friends would never call you evil just because you practice Christianity differently than they do. That's fine. That's your choice. But we know from your words how much you hate Biblical Christianity. So it would be difficult for you to hide that fact now. Christians are among the most persecuted people on the planet and thousands lose their lives every month in some countries. Just an added fact, the Devil loves people who hate Christians and people who never point out evil. One must wonder about people who call themselves Christians while they never say anything negative about the evil in the world and the world loves them for it. Of course they won't be persecuted much in places like Canada, but will be commended by a secular humanist population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, blackbird said: That's fine. That's your choice. But we know from your words how much you hate Biblical Christianity. So it would be difficult for you to hide that fact now. Christians are among the most persecuted people on the planet and thousands lose their lives every month in some countries. Just an added fact, the Devil loves people who hate Christians and people who never point out evil. One must wonder about people who call themselves Christians while they never say anything negative about the evil in the world and the world loves them for it. Of course they won't be persecuted much in places like Canada, but will be commended by a secular humanist population. If I don't believe in God, I'm hardly going to believe in the devil, so no point in trying to scare me with that. Or maybe you invoke the devil to keep yourself scared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Taxpayers want it, so you're out of luck. 2. Religions enjoy special accommodations and tax exemption. Your views on their status seem to be uninformed. 1. No. Taxpayers were not asked and don't want to pay for rainbows crosswalks, flags, and symbols. If taxpayers were asked, you know they would say NO. 2. No. Freedom of religion is a Constitutional/Charter Right. They are not a money-making business but are classified as charitable organizations. Churches are paid for and minister's salaries are paid for by donations from people who have already paid income tax on those donations. So there are no grounds to tax churches. Businesses and corporations only pay taxes on their profits after expenses are deducted from taxable income. Churches are not businesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, dialamah said: If I don't believe in God, I'm hardly going to believe in the devil, so no point in trying to scare me with that. Or maybe you invoke the devil to keep yourself scared. That's entirely your choice. People choose what they believe. The consequences of the wrong choice can be dire, both in this life and in eternity. Thankfully the Bible gives the answers and the way to be redeemed or saved from damnation. Whether one wants to listen to the Bible or reject it is one's own choice, but you should be aware there are serious consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, blackbird said: 1. No. Taxpayers were not asked and don't want to pay for rainbows crosswalks, flags, and symbols. If taxpayers were asked, you know they would say NO. 2. No. Freedom of religion is a Constitutional/Charter Right. 1. They don't ask taxpayers about every paint colour and indeed people are pretty happy about it AFAIK. General support for LGBT rights etc. is why I think that. 2. Correct. That's more clear than what you said before "Churches are private property and therefore have a right to exist" But they enjoy other exemptions besides tax exemptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 55 minutes ago, blackbird said: Thankfully the Bible gives the answers and the way to be redeemed or saved from damnation. For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. ~ Romans 2:13 God's impartial judgment those who do good are redeemed, even if they don't believe those who profess belief but do evil, are not 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Dougie93 said: the Liberals already crossed that Rubicon just another thing we will turn back against them Will Liberalism and NDP still be allowed under this new order ? What of the courts ? Will corporate messaging be brought to heel ? What if the messages go against the new regime ? So many problems... one wonders how the right-wing authoritarians dealt with such bugaboos in the past.... probably with kindness and good sense right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, Michael Hardner said: ... probably with kindness and good sense right ? no, it will be brute force without quarter nor mercy now the right will be enraged and revanchist the left will be subjected to the plans they had for the right, and then some Liberal & NDP supporters will be declared enemies of the state they will have their bank accounts seized they will have the police kicking their doors in and dragging them off to prison on trumped up charges the army will be called out to crush them in the streets they are the ones who imposed those terms, realistically, it's going to be payback time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: no, it will be brute force without quarter nor mercy now the right will be enraged and revanchist the left will be subjected to the plans they had for the right, and then some Liberal & NDP supporters will be declared enemies of the state they will have their bank accounts seized they will have the police kicking their doors in and dragging them off to prison on trumped up charges the army will be called out to crush them in the streets they are the ones who imposed those terms, realistically, it's going to be payback time Ok so it IS a right wing coup. If you think otherwise you are incorrect. Banning the NDP and Liberals and declaring them terrorist or whatever... that's a dictatorship. Even what you perceived the Liberals and their alleged agents the Ottawa Police couldn't/didn't/wouldn't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, Michael Hardner said: Ok so it IS a right wing coup. If you think otherwise you are incorrect. Banning the NDP and Liberals and declaring them terrorist or whatever... that's a dictatorship. Even what you perceived the Liberals and their alleged agents the Ottawa Police couldn't/didn't/wouldn't do that. it's not a coup, because the right will win by democratic election a coup is when the right seizes power by military force but this regime will be imposed by Parliamentary Supremacy Canada is the British Empire, the mechanisms of right wing authoritarianism are written into the DNA the police are totally corrupt in Canada, they do whatever those with power tell them to do the police will not be a problem, policeman by nature are right wing authoritarians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 the fighting military, the fighting police all hate the left with a passion leftist running to the military & police to save them are obviously delusional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: 1. it's not a coup, because the right will win by democratic election; a coup is when the right seizes power by military force 2. but this regime will be imposed by Parliamentary Supremacy 3. the police are totally corrupt in Canada, they do whatever those with power tell them to do, the police will not be a problem, policeman by nature are right wing authoritarians 1. 2. Ah ok, fair point. Suspension of democracy then. 3. Authoritarian, exactly. Suspension of rights of expression, elections etc. In other words, Trudeau's methods are ok with you but he's just on the wrong side... and better at it than you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. 2. Ah ok, fair point. Suspension of democracy then. 3. Authoritarian, exactly. Suspension of rights of expression, elections etc. In other words, Trudeau's methods are ok with you but he's just on the wrong side... and better at it than you are. not suspension of democracy democracy is a double edged sword the left has invoked illiberal democracy now, their way or the highway that will simply be turned back against them Trudeau's methods are okay, the Prime Minister of Canada must be a tyrant it's his ideology which will be overthrown, but his methods will be taken to a whole nother level the right operating with the lack of restraint that Trudeau has incited, is going to be a ferocious thing indeed left wing authoritarians will be replaced by right wing authoritarians, turn around is fair play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 there is no doubt the right once enraged, is the most dangerous thing on earth there will be no mercy nor quarter the principle characteristic of the right being moral certitude hence why you don't want to start a war for survival with the right but whatever, too late now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: 1. not suspension of democracy; democracy is a double edged swordt; he left has invoked illiberal democracy now, their way or the highwayt; hat will simply be turned back against them 2. Trudeau's methods are okay, the Prime Minister of Canada must be a tyrant; it's his ideology which will be overthrown, but his methods will be taken to a whole nother levelt; he right operating with the lack of restraint that Trudeau has incited, is going to be a ferocious thing indeed 3. left wing authoritarians will be replaced by right wing authoritarians, turn around is fair play 1. 3. This is a good first draft for the speech announcing that the parties representing a majority of voters are banned. 2. Ok, so I didn't realize that you approve of his methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: .2. Ok, so I didn't realize that you approve of his methods. the Prime Minister in his Parliamentary Supremacy wields the supreme authority of the monacrh but since he is such a vacuous fop he has opened the way for that authority to be turned back against his own constituents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. They don't ask taxpayers about every paint colour and indeed people are pretty happy about it AFAIK. General support for LGBT rights etc. is why I think that. 2. Correct. That's more clear than what you said before "Churches are private property and therefore have a right to exist" But they enjoy other exemptions besides tax exemptions. Most of us don't even know what LGBT rights means. So tell us what rights you mean. If you mean pushing LGBT agenda on everyone, I don't think anyone sees that as a right. If you mean teaching children in schools that LGBT is normal, I don't think most people would agree with that and most of the population has never even been asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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