US Supreme Court strikes down Roe V. Wade

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, Aristides said:

Amurica, where guns have more rights than women.

Demonrats and their stooges say that women should have bodily autonomy and that they should also be forced to take a harmful pseudovax which confers no known benefit to them or to society at large. 

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, -TSS- said:

Some people have a very romanticized view of the justice system. Even though in theory it is supposed to be politically neutral one must be very naive to believe it realy is. 

Actually, if you are a very ideologically driven person you try to enter politics but if you lack the charisma what it takes to become a successful politician then the justice system is another choice where you can advance your agenda. 

Please do the world a favour and never become a judge.

Any judge who drags their politics onto the bench with them...

Needs to be disbarred.!

[Dougie93]

3 hours ago, -TSS- said:

Some people have a very romanticized view of the justice system. Even though in theory it is supposed to be politically neutral one must be very naive to believe it realy is. 

Actually, if you are a very ideologically driven person you try to enter politics but if you lack the charisma what it takes to become a successful politician then the justice system is another choice where you can advance your agenda. 

but again, the court has taken a politically neutral position here

the court has not said that abortion is illegal

the court has not said that you could not make abortion a right if you amend the constitution

all the court has said is that there is no right to abortion in the 14th amendment

at which point the issue is automatically sent back to the states for them to decide on a state by state basis

[West]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Demonrats and their stooges say that women should have bodily autonomy and that they should also be forced to take a harmful pseudovax which confers no known benefit to them or to society at large. 

In one breath the democraps claim to be the champions of the poor... in the next breath they tell us poor kids shouldn't be allowed to live and then proceed to hike taxes and lower standard of living through printing of money to fund their nonsense. 

These people are the party of death and destruction.

[Aristides]

11 minutes ago, West said:

In one breath the democraps claim to be the champions of the poor... in the next breath they tell us poor kids shouldn't be allowed to live and then proceed to hike taxes and lower standard of living through printing of money to fund their nonsense. 

These people are the party of death and destruction.

In 2020 Trump had a deficit of over 3 trillion and increased the debt by over 4 trillion. The largest in history. Obama ran lower deficits in his last two years than Trump did in any of his years in office. Who was printing money?

Edited June 26, 2022 by Aristides

[West]

23 minutes ago, Aristides said:

In 2020 Trump had a deficit of over 3 trillion and increased the debt by over 4 trillion. The largest in history. Obama ran lower deficits in his last two years than Trump did in any of his years in office. Who was printing money?

Did Obama have to contend with liberal lunatics closing down their economy over a flu bug?

[sharkman]

21 minutes ago, West said:

Did Obama have to contend with liberal lunatics closing down their economy over a flu bug?

Uh, the answer is no.  
 

I think at this point we should all pause and reflect on the president that keeps on giving.  This abortion decision is brought to you by Donald J Trump.  What’s he going to do next?

Biden is toast and he knows it.

[West]

3 minutes ago, sharkman said:

Uh, the answer is no.  
 

I think at this point we should all pause and reflect on the president that keeps on giving.  This abortion decision is brought to you by Donald J Trump.  What’s he going to do next?

Biden is toast and he knows it.

Obama left key infrastructure in the US in shambles. He would rather spend the money on gender transitions in Africa.

[ironstone]

Joe Biden had a somewhat different position on abortion at one time. In the video below there's a clip from Senator Biden in 2006.

From this Youtube channel coming from a guy and a simple laptop there are so many great takes on the news of the day. And with laughs too!

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, West said:

Did Obama have to contend with liberal lunatics closing down their economy over a flu bug?

Obama had to contend with the 2009 financial crisis. Covid was only around in the last year of Trumps presidency yet he still ran larger deficits than Obama the first three years. Biden has had to contend with Covid longer than Trump.

[Aristides]

41 minutes ago, West said:

Obama left key infrastructure in the US in shambles. He would rather spend the money on gender transitions in Africa.

What did Trump do for infrastructure other than trying to build a wall on the souther border? He gave huge tax breaks, mostly to those who didn't need them and borrowed to pay for them.

[West]

28 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Obama had to contend with the 2009 financial crisis. Covid was only around in the last year of Trumps presidency yet he still ran larger deficits than Obama the first three years. Biden has had to contend with Covid longer than Trump.

Barry had 8 (undeserved) years where he did nothing for actual issues other than force Christian bakers to bake the rainbow cake. 

[West]

27 minutes ago, Aristides said:

What did Trump do for infrastructure other than trying to build a wall on the souther border? He gave huge tax breaks, mostly to those who didn't need them and borrowed to pay for them.

Lots actually. The military is in much better shape as is the infrastructure

[BeaverFever]

1.  Par for the course, Republican senate candidate arrested after attacking black woman and punching her in the head multiple times at anti-abortion rally. And….he also happens to he an off-duty cop. But they’re not anti-woman and I’m sure he’s a fine and totally unbiased police officer when he’s on duty  ?

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3537210-rhode-island-state-senate-candidate-suspends-campaign-after-video-shows-him-hitting-opponent-at-protest/amp/

 

2.  Every single Republican SC Justice vowed not to overturn Roe v Wade during their respective confirmation hearings. So I guess they’re liars in addition to be being Republican stooges

 

3.  Donald Trump  in 1999: ‘I am Very Pro-Choice’

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp-video/mmvo43407429521

[BeaverFever]

12 minutes ago, West said:

Barry had 8 (undeserved) years where he did nothing for actual issues other than force Christian bakers to bake the rainbow cake. 

Yeah it’s not like millions of Americans gained health insurance coverage under something called Obamacare or anything.  ?
 

Coverage Republicans want to strip away and give nothing in return 

[West]

1 minute ago, BeaverFever said:

1.  Par for the course, Republican senate candidate arrested after attacking black woman and punching her in the head multiple times at anti-abortion rally. And….he also happens to he an off-duty cop. But they’re not anti-woman and I’m sure he’s a fine and totally unbiased police officer when he’s on duty  ?

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3537210-rhode-island-state-senate-candidate-suspends-campaign-after-video-shows-him-hitting-opponent-at-protest/amp/

 

2.  Every single Republican SC Justice vowed not to overturn Roe v Wade during their respective confirmation hearings. So I guess they’re liars in addition to be being Republican stooges

 

3.  Donald Trump  in 1999: ‘I am Very Pro-Choice’

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp-video/mmvo43407429521

This is a lie. 

They all said they wouldn't indicate how they'd rule on specific cases as it's improper to do so in a confirmation hearing. 

[West]

1 minute ago, BeaverFever said:

Yeah it’s not like millions of Americans gained health insurance coverage under something called Obamacare or anything.  ?
 

Coverage Republicans want to strip away and give nothing in return 

Overpriced forced insurance.. yes lovely.

Edited June 26, 2022 by West

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, West said:

Obama left key infrastructure in the US in shambles. He would rather spend the money on gender transitions in Africa.

Us infrastructure has been in shambles since Reagan. Still is.  Trump did nothing to change any of it. 

[West]

2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Us infrastructure has been in shambles since Reagan. Still is.  Trump did nothing to change any of it. 

Obama had close to a decade to fix it yet focused more time on who can pee in which bathroom and forcing a baker to make a cake against their will.

[ironstone]

44 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Obama had to contend with the 2009 financial crisis. Covid was only around in the last year of Trumps presidency yet he still ran larger deficits than Obama the first three years. Biden has had to contend with Covid longer than Trump.

Biden was very fortunate to have benefitted from Operation Warp Speed.

Here are some numbers on debt:

US Debt by President | Chart & Per President Deficit | Self.

 

[BeaverFever]

1 minute ago, West said:

This is a lie. 

They all said they wouldn't indicate how they'd rule on specific cases as it's improper to do so in a confirmation 

Alito:

"Roe v. Wade is an important precedent of the Supreme Court. It was decided in 1973, so it has been on the books for a long time," he said. "It is a precedent that has now been on the books for several decades. It has been challenged. It has been reaffirmed. 

 

 

Gorsuch:

"I would tell you that Roe v. Wade, decided in 1973, is a precedent of the United States Supreme Court. It has been reaffirmed," he said. "A good judge will consider it as precedent of the U.S. Supreme Court worthy as treatment of precedent like any other."

…

In the exchange, Gorsuch acknowledged that the Supreme Court had held that a fetus is not a person for the purposes of the 14th Amendment's due process clause, a legal underpinning of Roe v. Wade.

"Do you accept that?" asked Durbin.

"That is the law of the land. I accept the law of the land, senator, yes," Gorsuch replied.

 

Kavanaugh:

 

"It is settled as a precedent of the Supreme Court, entitled the respect under principles of stare decisis.  The Supreme Court has recognized the right to abortion since the 1973 Roe v. Wade case. It has reaffirmed it many times."

 

Roberts, (on overturning Roe, a “settled precedent of the court”):

"I do think that it is a jolt to the legal system when you overrule a precedent. Precedent plays an important role in promoting stability and evenhandedness," he said then.

 

 

 

 

[West]

Very strange:

The rights that are enshrined in the US constitution I.e states rights to pass their own laws, the 2nd ammendment the leftists don't support

Rights not enshrined in the US constitution I.e baby murder they do support. 

Down is up, up is down with these folks. And they claim Republicans are damaging institutions...

[West]

1 minute ago, BeaverFever said:

Alito:

"Roe v. Wade is an important precedent of the Supreme Court. It was decided in 1973, so it has been on the books for a long time," he said. "It is a precedent that has now been on the books for several decades. It has been challenged. It has been reaffirmed. 

 

 

Gorsuch:

"I would tell you that Roe v. Wade, decided in 1973, is a precedent of the United States Supreme Court. It has been reaffirmed," he said. "A good judge will consider it as precedent of the U.S. Supreme Court worthy as treatment of precedent like any other."

…

In the exchange, Gorsuch acknowledged that the Supreme Court had held that a fetus is not a person for the purposes of the 14th Amendment's due process clause, a legal underpinning of Roe v. Wade.

"Do you accept that?" asked Durbin.

"That is the law of the land. I accept the law of the land, senator, yes," Gorsuch replied.

 

Kavanaugh:

 

"It is settled as a precedent of the Supreme Court, entitled the respect under principles of stare decisis.  The Supreme Court has recognized the right to abortion since the 1973 Roe v. Wade case. It has reaffirmed it many times."

 

Roberts, (on overturning Roe, a “settled precedent of the court”):

"I do think that it is a jolt to the legal system when you overrule a precedent. Precedent plays an important role in promoting stability and evenhandedness," he said then.

 

 

 

 

Misleading. Should be ruled as "false" on politifact

[BeaverFever]

11 minutes ago, West said:

Obama had close to a decade to fix it yet focused more time on who can pee in which bathroom and forcing a baker to make a cake against their will.

No it was Republicans who brought up who can pee in Which bathroom and tried to dictate special rules

Also its Congress that approves spending, genius. And Obama was stuck with an obstructionist Congress that publicly and openly bragged that they block all Obama/Dem proposals even the routine normal ones for no reason other than just to own the libs. 

On the gay cake thing:  Funny that you think companies should have the right to deny service to gay people but not to unmasked or unvaccinated people during a contagious disease pandemic 

[BeaverFever]

22 minutes ago, West said:

Overpriced forced insurance.. yes lovely

Better than no insurance which is what Republicans want.  And for many its still cheaper and more comprehensive than it was before Obama.