Army Guy Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 On 7/12/2022 at 1:34 PM, Jack9000 said: Lol they called scientists terrorists pro oil gas which is right wing also Harper didn't give a damn about environment or Atlantic Canada also. As bad as Harper was he would still be better then Pierre who has gone off the deep end . Wouldn't be surprised if what happened to Boris Johnson happens to Pierre down the road if he becomes pm. Party will get sick of him and force the boot. And For the last time Canada government is not commie Jesus dude incredible how people like this can even vote lol. Canadians don't care about the environment, sure they say they do, but what have we done for the climate so far.... let me guess tax fossil fuels then give back those taxes at the end of the year... How's it working out...you using less fuel on that fishing boat you work on...I doubt it, And why should anyone care about the Atlantic provinces who are content sucking on Canada's teats... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 You are talking out of your rear here my man. Canadians care about the environment. Maybe you don't. Maybe people in Alberta and Saskatchewan don't. Most of the rest of the country does. Liberal policy over Canadian pipelines (both here but then even more in the USA) has been asinine, ineffective and counter-productive, but that doesn't mean nobody cares about the environment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) On 6/25/2022 at 3:46 PM, Zeitgeist said: On all other issues he’ll have the social conservatives on board. What other issues do social conservatives care about? Traditional marriage? Christianity in schools? Creationism? Which of the important social conservative issues will PP have them on his side? Edited August 8, 2022 by TreeBeard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 Does PP still believe Canada should be a nation that is the “blockchain capital of the world”? Or has that been dropped as a policy now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Does PP still believe Canada should be a nation that is the “blockchain capital of the world”? Or has that been dropped as a policy now? Who do you support for PM and why? Can’t wait to hear this… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Who do you support for PM and why? Can’t wait to hear this… I tend to vote based on my local candidate, not based on party affiliation or whom I might want as PM. In the past few elections, I have supported my local Green candidate, except last election, I couldn’t vote Green due to their internal, self-induced implosion of impressive magnitude. I’m not sure if I have ever voted for a winning candidate…. What do you think is the answer to my question about PP and crypto? Do you think he was smart to promote crypto? Edited August 8, 2022 by TreeBeard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 hours ago, TreeBeard said: I tend to vote based on my local candidate, not based on party affiliation or whom I might want as PM. In the past few elections, I have supported my local Green candidate, except last election, I couldn’t vote Green due to their internal, self-induced implosion of impressive magnitude. I’m not sure if I have ever voted for a winning candidate…. What do you think is the answer to my question about PP and crypto? Do you think he was smart to promote crypto? He wasn’t promoting crypto. He was promoting making Canada a centre for crypto and blockchain trade/development, because it’s a massive market, especially if central bank currencies become unstable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 13 hours ago, TreeBeard said: I tend to vote based on my local candidate, not based on party affiliation or whom I might want as PM. In the past few elections, I have supported my local Green candidate, except last election, I couldn’t vote Green due to their internal, self-induced implosion of impressive magnitude. I’m not sure if I have ever voted for a winning candidate…. What do you think is the answer to my question about PP and crypto? Do you think he was smart to promote crypto? While a noble quest, in the Canadian parliamentary system, a vote for a nondescript party or candidate helps neither Canada nor your local riding. A lone MP has little, if any, chance of doing and getting anything done. They basically get a 4 year vacation (expenses paid and 22 flights home a year) in Ottawa at your expense. As far as PP, I am not sure what he is promoting lately. He does a lot of talking and not sure what the real position is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Banana Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, TreeBeard said: I tend to vote based on my local candidate, not based on party affiliation or whom I might want as PM. In the past few elections, I have supported my local Green candidate, except last election, I couldn’t vote Green due to their internal, self-induced implosion of impressive magnitude. Your vote, and your vote to waste . . . . Green Party of Canada . . . Thirty-nine year history, two seats in the House of Commons. Edited August 9, 2022 by Nefarious Banana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: He wasn’t promoting crypto. He was promoting making Canada a centre for crypto and blockchain trade/development, because it’s a massive market, especially if central bank currencies become unstable. He was making the noises the apes wanted to hear. He doesn't actually believe what he says about crypto. He knows it's not going to supplant sovereign fiat in any major economy for a long, long time (if ever). He just knows that if you grumble about the central banks you score points on 4chan and reddit (bonus points for mentions of Klaus Schwab). The funniest part about the crypto bros is that while they bemoan the evils of the central banks, they hinge on every word out of Jerome Powell's mouth and sit at their computers for hours in advance of every rate announcement, or watch streams of monetary policy meetings/updates. No, PP is too smart to actually believe this stuff. Like any intelligent crypto investor, he understands zero-sum ponzinomics and just likes making money off of idiots who don't know any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: While a noble quest, in the Canadian parliamentary system, a vote for a nondescript party or candidate helps neither Canada nor your local riding. A lone MP has little, if any, chance of doing and getting anything done. They basically get a 4 year vacation (expenses paid and 22 flights home a year) in Ottawa at your expense. As far as PP, I am not sure what he is promoting lately. He does a lot of talking and not sure what the real position is. I’m not on a quest. I’ve never promoted that it should be anyone else’s preferred method. If no one else wants to do it that way, then go vote for the party with the leader with the nicest hair…. Or the one who promotes Ponzi schemes and conspiracies. Whatever floats your boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 26 minutes ago, Moonbox said: He doesn't actually believe what he says about crypto. I guess you can give him the benefit of the doubt…. But I read that PP actually owns a bunch of crypto. How good is PP’s judgement on economic matters if he promotes and invests in such a scheme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said: Your vote, and your vote to waste . . . . Green Party of Canada . . . Thirty-nine year history, two seats in the House of Commons. They’re fake anyway. The Mulroney Conservatives probably did more for the environment with the Great Lakes Accord than any of the other parties. Edited August 9, 2022 by Zeitgeist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: I’m not on a quest. I’ve never promoted that it should be anyone else’s preferred method. If no one else wants to do it that way, then go vote for the party with the leader with the nicest hair…. Or the one who promotes Ponzi schemes and conspiracies. Whatever floats your boat. OK, not a quest, then a gesture, then a principal, then a posture. Point was and is that you vote local and that local candidate is not on the winning team, then your riding gets zero. If you vote to get things done or things for your riding, then you need to vote strategically. Edited August 9, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: OK, not a quest, then a gesture, then a principal, then a posture. Point was and is that you vote local and that local candidate is not on the winning team, then your riding gets zero. If you vote to get things done or things for your riding, then you need to vote strategically. I see a flaw in this thinking…. According to your hypothesis, a vote is wasted unless the vote is for the winning candidate. I don’t think any votes are wasted, as you exercised your democratic duty as a citizen. You didn’t win, but neither did most of the other people in the entire country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Moonbox said: He was making the noises the apes wanted to hear. He doesn't actually believe what he says about crypto. He knows it's not going to supplant sovereign fiat in any major economy for a long, long time (if ever). He just knows that if you grumble about the central banks you score points on 4chan and reddit (bonus points for mentions of Klaus Schwab). The funniest part about the crypto bros is that while they bemoan the evils of the central banks, they hinge on every word out of Jerome Powell's mouth and sit at their computers for hours in advance of every rate announcement, or watch streams of monetary policy meetings/updates. No, PP is too smart to actually believe this stuff. Like any intelligent crypto investor, he understands zero-sum ponzinomics and just likes making money off of idiots who don't know any better. Well I’m for free markets and free flow of capital. The current government of Canada is intent on politicizing monetary policy and using the police and regulatory bodies to get to people’s finances. I don’t care if that makes me a conspiracy theory freak. I’m still disgusted by our government’s unconstitutional overreach and I support any politician who will reduce the power and overreach of this creepy federal government. Edited August 9, 2022 by Zeitgeist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: I see a flaw in this thinking…. According to your hypothesis, a vote is wasted unless the vote is for the winning candidate. I don’t think any votes are wasted, as you exercised your democratic duty as a citizen. You didn’t win, but neither did most of the other people in the entire country. No, I said " you vote local and that local candidate is not on the winning team, then your riding gets zero. " and that is a fact. If you voted conservative and your riding is conservative, and the party that wins is Liberal, your chance of getting any government help for anything, is practically zero, provincially or federally. My riding always seems to be on the losing party coattails and it stagnates. You see it in the legislature, opposition gets no airtime , respect or benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) You think that currently only Liberal ridings receive federal government investment? If I show that this isn’t the case, will you change your view? Edited August 9, 2022 by TreeBeard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 39 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: I see a flaw in this thinking…. According to your hypothesis, a vote is wasted unless the vote is for the winning candidate. I don’t think any votes are wasted, as you exercised your democratic duty as a citizen. You didn’t win, but neither did most of the other people in the entire country. Well, the liberal voters won, they supported a platform they believed in and now it is being somewhat implemented. You voted for a candidate that accomplished nothing for him, you, or your community. But sure it is your vote, your time, vote for who ever you want. kind of like taking your hand out of a pail of water, you have not made a difference in your world, but hey is all good. You got to exercise a basic right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Army Guy said: Well, the liberal voters won, they supported a platform they believed in and now it is being somewhat implemented. You voted for a candidate that accomplished nothing for him, you, or your community. But sure it is your vote, your time, vote for who ever you want. kind of like taking your hand out of a pail of water, you have not made a difference in your world, but hey is all good. You got to exercise a basic right. So when you voted for Conservatives who lost, it was wasted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: You think that currently only Liberal ridings receive federal government investment? If I show that this isn’t the case, will you change your view? They will receive the great part of it, yes. Token funds are spread about but generally, liberal ridings get the most. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/infrastructure-funds-benefit-federal-liberal-ridingsmost/article37936209/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: So when you voted for Conservatives who lost, it was wasted? Pretty well. Now, if you voted NDP, who also lost but struck a deal with the ______ (insert your noun) , you made out better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Pretty well. Now, if you voted NDP, who also lost but struck a deal with the ______ (insert your noun) , you made out better So, unless I hear my vote to the polls, assuming the polling is valid, I am wasting my vote? This is just a bizarre interpretation of the democratic process in Canada. There are winners and there are losers. The fact that your “side” lost doesn’t make it a waste. That’s nihilism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: They will receive the great part of it, yes. Token funds are spread about but generally, liberal ridings get the most. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/infrastructure-funds-benefit-federal-liberal-ridingsmost/article37936209/ Right, so you were incorrect. Thank you for correcting yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Right, so you were incorrect. Thank you for correcting yourself. No, I am just saying that the majority of funding goes to the winning party ridings. Some always dribbles down to the unfaithful, but not much. Mind you, with upcoming elections, there will be a lot of promises made but, if the riding votes the wrong way, the promises disappear. I am surprised you are surprised at this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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