Moonbox Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 20 hours ago, myata said: The quasi-democracy "everybody is happy here" beavertale is about to have run it's course. Back to the unadorned reality now: entitled elites without slightest working checks and controls by the society are running away with treating themselves in any way imaginable at public expense while producing hectic; poor quality; unreasonable, ineffective; inefficient and at times plain disastrous management of public matters. Conceptually, this is the third already, there's no principal difference nor clear separating line. If not checked, arrested, understood and corrected right here, it will be only a matter of time before it trickles to everyday life and it'll be the third world on the ground. First bells already ringing: stagnating incomes, rising costs, astronomical housing and now, indefinite restrictions, inflation and suffering small business economy. You've written a 7-line paragraph that ends up saying almost nothing. You've brought up a myriad of different issues that all have complicated causes and solutions and you explain none of them. This post can pretty much be summarized as:All these things are bad. Everything is bad. We need to DO SOMETHING. Okay cool. Start a thread on any one of these topics and let's talk about it. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
myata Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 That was one of the reasons, or the main one why people (who were awake and conscious at the time) invented the concept of a responsible and accountable government. It was centuries ago, I think. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
West Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/13/2022 at 5:07 AM, blackbird said: Another fact is that families have been greatly harmed and divided over differences on the issues related to the pandemic such as vaccination. People have lost friends. We all need to rethink this whole thing and find a way to get through it without causing division and harming relationships. And you think vaccine ID and our prime minister saying things like "should we tolerate the unvaccinated?" And people like yourself portraying the unvaccinated as grandma killers or terrorists is going to do anything to help the situation? 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, West said: And you think vaccine ID and our prime minister saying things like "should we tolerate the unvaccinated?" And people like yourself portraying the unvaccinated as grandma killers or terrorists is going to do anything to help the situation? You're really wetting your bed over that quote aren't you? What do you figure "tolerate the unvaccinated" means? I'm genuinely curious because you're waving this around like it's a big red flag when it's a giant nothing-burger nobody cares about. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
West Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Moonbox said: You're really wetting your bed over that quote aren't you? What do you figure "tolerate the unvaccinated" means? I'm genuinely curious because you're waving this around like it's a big red flag when it's a giant nothing-burger nobody cares about. I dont know you tell me. Right now it means denying service to the unvaccinated and firing them little men like you are too scared to share an elevator with them. Seems you are getting your jollies from that eh tough guy? Edited February 14, 2022 by West Quote
Moonbox Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 You're the one bleating that quote over and over in every thread. If you're going to repeat it that many times, surely you can explain why you think it's so important and what you think it means, no? Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Aristides Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Moonbox said: You've written a 7-line paragraph that ends up saying almost nothing. You've brought up a myriad of different issues that all have complicated causes and solutions and you explain none of them. This post can pretty much be summarized as:All these things are bad. Everything is bad. We need to DO SOMETHING. Okay cool. Start a thread on any one of these topics and let's talk about it. That’s what he does. Quote
West Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, Moonbox said: You're the one bleating that quote over and over in every thread. If you're going to repeat it that many times, surely you can explain why you think it's so important and what you think it means, no? If you can't see the issue with a prime Minister targeting his own citizens, sorry can't help you. You are too far gone Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, West said: If you can't see the issue with a prime Minister targeting his own citizens, sorry can't help you. You are too far gone "Targeting" = Calling them out for what they are when they put themselves forward as usurpers... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
myata Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: usurpers... "Usurpers" = insisting on their right to control their own body. "Good thoughtful democratic leader" = ensuring that everybody in the country age 5 up is injected with something supposedly good for them (in two or three decade we may know better) every so many months under a threat of. OK we got it. Left is bad for calling names but we are something else. How would you name it, I wonder? Sounds like something Mao or Stalin could say, remote association.. 1984? Edited February 14, 2022 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Moonbox Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 We do know what happens with the vaccines in two to three decades - nothing. Your ignorance and superstition regarding vaccine science is nothing anyone here is going to convince you of, but it's the swamp your mental fortress is built on. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
taxesanddeath Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 I am wondering how many people just read the graph and point finger Don't bother to read the raw data Quote
Goddess Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 36 minutes ago, taxesanddeath said: I am wondering how many people just read the graph and point finger Don't bother to read the raw data The vaccinated are dying at twice the rate of the unvaccinated in the over 70 crowd. Under 70 - the rates are pretty much the same. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Aristides Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Goddess said: The vaccinated are dying at twice the rate of the unvaccinated in the over 70 crowd. Under 70 - the rates are pretty much the same. Considering that over four times as many are fully vaccinated than unvaccinated, rates aren't anywhere near the same. Quote
Goddess Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Aristides said: Considering that over four times as many are fully vaccinated than unvaccinated, rates aren't anywhere near the same. Read the bottom chart - the raw data. 930 deaths in the last 60 days are amongst the vaccinated. 462 deaths amongst the unvaccinated. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Michael Hardner Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: Considering that over four times as many are fully vaccinated than unvaccinated, rates aren't anywhere near the same. Nitpicking stats is a common tactic FYI. This is why you should dismiss dishonest/ignorant posters. 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Aristides Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Goddess said: Read the bottom chart - the raw data. 930 deaths in the last 60 days are amongst the vaccinated. 462 deaths amongst the unvaccinated. Yes 46 % of deaths from 15% of the population that is unvaccinated. The remaining 53% coming from the 85% of the population that is fully vaccinated. Only in your world could that be the same rate. 1 Quote
taxesanddeath Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Aristides said: Yes 46 % of deaths from 15% of the population that is unvaccinated. The remaining 53% coming from the 85% of the population that is fully vaccinated. Only in your world could that be the same rate. It is 33% of deaths from unvaxx and 67% of deaths from vaxx. Anyway, (1) teen cases (2) 80+ CASES are contrary from what we are told. Also, the raw data is not drill down enough. At the end, i am not anti-c19-vaxx, just the mandate. Quote
Aristides Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, taxesanddeath said: It is 33% of deaths from unvaxx and 67% of deaths from vaxx. Anyway, (1) teen cases (2) 80+ CASES are contrary from what we are told. Also, the raw data is not drill down enough. At the end, i am not anti-c19-vaxx, just the mandate. Just using the raw data like you wanted. Even with your fiddled numbers you have 33% of deaths coming from 15% of the population Quote
Jack9000 Posted February 15, 2022 Report Posted February 15, 2022 Getting my booster Thursday so nope not boycotting vaccines lol. 1 Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT
TreeBeard Posted February 15, 2022 Report Posted February 15, 2022 Could we change the title of the thread to “Help Bring Back Polio and Small Pox”? ? 1 Quote
taxesanddeath Posted February 15, 2022 Report Posted February 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Aristides said: Just using the raw data like you wanted. Even with your fiddled numbers you have 33% of deaths coming from 15% of the population Ya, so??? The data shows that the unvaxx does not hold up majority healthcare resources, like msm and gov't reported. Quote
taxesanddeath Posted February 15, 2022 Report Posted February 15, 2022 2 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Could we change the title of the thread to “Help Bring Back Polio and Small Pox”? ? It can not be done, those viruses have REAL vaxx. Quote
TreeBeard Posted February 15, 2022 Report Posted February 15, 2022 45 minutes ago, taxesanddeath said: It can not be done, those viruses have REAL vaxx. What is a “REAL vaxx”? Quote
myata Posted February 15, 2022 Report Posted February 15, 2022 The arguments for forced or coerced population-wide mRNA boosting do not exist. The mandates are an arbitrary application of authority. Arbitrary, authoritarian, not responsible and non-accountable authority. Welcome to the 21st century Canada. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
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