Trucker's Convoy

[Moonbox]

18 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

What did you condemn him for, and when?

Did you wait for the whole rest of the planet to go first? 

I've been talking about it for over a week.  Leave it to you to find cause for confrontation even when I'm agreeing with you though ?

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I've been talking about it for over a week.  Leave it to you to find cause for confrontation even when I'm agreeing with you though ?

Fair enough.

Some condemnation of the hate mongering too?

[Michael Hardner]

6 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I've been talking about it for over a week.  

Yeah ... but to be fair, you didn't call him Hitler so...

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

Yeah ... but to be fair, you didn't call him Hitler so...

Accurate comparisons aren't always necessary, but accurate criticism are. 

It was important to hold him accountable for his divisive hate speech.

[DogOnPorch]

Little bitch Trudeau breathes a sigh of relief as Russia invades.

CBC desperately spins him as a man who cares about people...and borders...and rights.

[Moonbox]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Accurate comparisons aren't always necessary, but accurate criticism are. 

It was important to hold him accountable for his divisive hate speech.

I think it was fair to criticize him for his divisive rhetoric, but hate speech always was and still is a reach.  By your definition of hate speech, you and the trucker protest is also guilty.  ?

 

[Michael Hardner]

5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Little bitch Trudeau breathes a sigh of relief as Russia invades.

CBC desperately spins him as a man who cares about people...and borders...and rights.

Srsly... you should breathe a bit or maybe eat a sandwich...

If you think these people care to the level of you do then you have been fooled by the game.  

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

Srsly... you should breath a bit or maybe eat a sandwich...

If you think these people care to the level of you do then you have been fooled by the game.  

 

Sorry your dreams of oppressing your fellow Canadians and killing their pets are going so sideways.

Edited February 24, 2022 by DogOnPorch

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

 By your definition of hate speech, you and the trucker protest is also guilty.  ?

Your impeccable English makes you the perfect judge of the meaning, intent, and effect of his speeches.

[Michael Hardner]

8 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Sorry your dreams of oppressing your fellow Canadians and killing their pets are going so sideways.

You get angry, then you read my responses and make up opinions for me, which make you angrier.

You need a puppy or something, IDK.  I already said I'm sympathetic to the Convoy stop flailing away at strawmen...

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Srsly... you should breathe a bit or maybe eat a sandwich...

If you think these people care to the level of you do then you have been fooled by the game.  

You should care.

Everyone over 16 should care.

Hate speech is something that you should get mad about. 

Now ya know. 

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You get angry, then you read my responses and make up opinions for me, which make you angrier.

Maybe you just need a nudge to help you form informed opinions.

Hint: Reading Global, CTV and CBC's headlines isn't a good substitute for finding reliable sources. 

Edited February 24, 2022 by WestCanMan

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

1. You should care. Everyone over 16 should care. Hate speech is something that you should get mad about. 

1. Yes I care but I won't stew about a politician's actions for days... there's only so much you can do.  

I don't begrudge people being angry but you need to do something with it IMO

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

  I already said I'm sympathetic to the Convoy

good man

you don't have to agree with us

it's just Section 2 of the Charter of Rights & Freedoms

it's your rights too

and this government will round on anybody who opposes them for any reason

it's a danger to you too

the standards of who is a "non person" will just keep expanding at this rate

 

[West]

The leftists are a strange bunch. Claim that protesters (without evidence) used their children as human shields.

All while supporting police tossing pepper spray and shooting rubber bullets at peaceful demonstrators. 

Backwardsville

[West]

And now more political games by not releasing all information for judicial review citing "classified information". 

Sounds an awful lot like the Democrats and the collusion scam. 

[Michael Hardner]

12 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

  ...and this government will round on anybody who opposes them for any reason

They misjudged the movement in many ways.  I think the organizers were nutty and non-strategic but people are upset and you have to feel for them.

I have more than a few friends participating/supporting...

[WestCanMan]

14 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Yes I care but I won't stew about a politician's actions for days... there's only so much you can do.  

I don't begrudge people being angry but you need to do something with it IMO

Michelle Obama herself said "Don't let people tell you to stop being angry". Are you saying that Michelle was wrong? 

Don't get yourself cancelled....

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

They misjudged the movement in many ways.  I think the organizers were nutty and non-strategic but people are upset and you have to feel for them.

I have more than a few friends participating/supporting...

I don't have any quarrel with you expressing your views

I will defend your right to that with my life

we can agree to disagree

just like the Canada of yore

[Zeitgeist]

8 minutes ago, West said:

And now more political games by not releasing all information for judicial review citing "classified information". 

Sounds an awful lot like the Democrats and the collusion scam. 

Sounds much like the withholding of information about the Chinese virologists who got fired from the Canadian virology lab.  This is how a government fuels distrust among the people.  This is why so many people have good reason to wonder if the Trudeau government was indeed doing irresponsible things, whether knowingly or unwittingly.  It makes many people wonder if the “national security threat” that government cites to justify hiding information is the government itself.  Given what we’ve learned about Klaus Schwab “penetrating” more than half of the Canadian Cabinet (according to him), we have very good reasons to distrust the Liberal government.  In fact, it’s fair to consider Trudeau, Freeland, and those pushing the WEF’s agenda a threat to national security.  Yes, they’re compromising our very sovereignty.  That’s without describing the various suspensions of due process and vilification (criminalization?) of political opponents and protesters of dubious government policies.  

[Yzermandius19]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

I imagine this must be pretty jarring for you.  How could a labeled communist/far-left/totalitarian/woke/prog/whatever like Moonbox actually condemn Trudeau for something?  It's almost like...I actually consider the issues at hand for what they are rather than screaming all-or-nothing ideology at people.  

China beat you to it

you were slower to throw JT under the bus than Xi Jinping

that doesn't exactly scream objective

Edited February 24, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93]

on the subject of "not strategic" tho ?

have to disagree

the protests have provoked this government into showing its fangs

to the whole world

that is the essence of an asymmetrical influence operation at the strategic level

geostrategic level in fact

 

[Michael Hardner]

22 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

1. Michelle Obama herself said "Don't let people tell you to stop being angry". Are you saying that Michelle was wrong? 

2. Don't get yourself cancelled....

1. Like I said, be angry... just not all the time
2. Not going to happen

[West]

16 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Sounds much like the withholding of information about the Chinese virologists who got fired from the Canadian virology lab.  This is how a government fuels distrust among the people.  This is why so many people have good reason to wonder if the Trudeau government was indeed doing irresponsible things, whether knowingly or unwittingly.  It makes many people wonder if the “national security threat” that government cites to justify hiding information is the government itself.  Given what we’ve learned about Klaus Schwab “penetrating” more than half of the Canadian Cabinet (according to him), we have very good reasons to distrust the Liberal government.  In fact, it’s fair to consider Trudeau, Freeland, and those pushing the WEF’s agenda a threat to national security.  Yes, they’re compromising our very sovereignty.  That’s without describing the various suspensions of due process and vilification (criminalization?) of political opponents and protesters of dubious government policies.  

Exactly. Trudeau will try doing what Adam Schiff did in the US. Making baseless accusations out in the open, saying something to the effect of they actually have the information, and then proceeding to block the facts from getting out.

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, West said:

Exactly. Trudeau will try doing what Adam Schiff did in the US. Making baseless accusations out in the open, saying something to the effect of they actually have the information, and then proceeding to block the facts from getting out.

Adam Schiff is going down tho

the Democrats are going down in a flaming wreck

the Liberals have attached themselves to a ship which is about to crash into the rocks