DogOnPorch Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 10 hours ago, PIK said: Well it has started. Well...so says this guy or that... Putin knows it's a big poker bluff...and he has four of a kind. America and Canada have their truckers and the Russia has theirs. What is the problem? That is the general message coming from Moscow. Glass houses and such. National integrity??? It is to laugh. The southern US border? Roxham road? But some patch of steppe you've never heard of is oh so important to safety. Safety for their dirty money and Hunter Biden's crack pipes. Fun fact...the area in question isn't that far from Stalingrad. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Aristides Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 43 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Well...so says this guy or that... Putin knows it's a big poker bluff...and he has four of a kind. America and Canada have their truckers and the Russia has theirs. What is the problem? That is the general message coming from Moscow. Glass houses and such. National integrity??? It is to laugh. The southern US border? Roxham road? But some patch of steppe you've never heard of is oh so important to safety. Safety for their dirty money and Hunter Biden's crack pipes. Fun fact...the area in question isn't that far from Stalingrad. Wake up, the Cold War is on again. NATO will have no choice but to build up forces in Western Europe. The Canadian military might be about to see better times. Hopefully this will turn into another Afghanistan for Russia. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Aristides said: Wake up, the Cold War is on again. NATO will have no choice but to build up forces in Western Europe. The Canadian military might be about to see better times. Hopefully this will turn into another Afghanistan for Russia. Back to bed grandpa. Nobody in the West wants your damn war over Hunter Biden's right to launder money. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Aristides Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Back to bed grandpa. Nobody in the West wants your damn war over Hunter Biden's right to launder money. Are you really dumb enough to think this has anything to do with Hunter Biden? Are you that fucking stupid or is your real name Boris? Edited February 24, 2022 by Aristides Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Aristides said: Are really dumb enough to think this has anything to do with Hunter Biden? Are you that fucking stupid or is your real name Boris? I don't want war so I MUST be a Russian. It's all about the corrupt laundering money in that so called country. Maybe you are one of them. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Aristides Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I don't want war so I MUST be a Russian. It's all about the corrupt laundering money in that so called country. Maybe you are one of them. No one wants a war but Russia just started one. If they are successful now the fBaltic Countries are next and they are NATO members. Putin wants to be Vladimir I. Quote
Aristides Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 If this was about money laundering it would just be about Russia getting rid of competition. Russia wants its empire back. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 58 minutes ago, Aristides said: No one wants a war but Russia just started one. If they are successful now the fBaltic Countries are next and they are NATO members. Putin wants to be Vladimir I. And only you, the WEF and The Ukraine care. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) Live cams of Kiev show pretty much...nothing. Edited February 24, 2022 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Army Guy Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Aristides said: Wake up, the Cold War is on again. NATO will have no choice but to build up forces in Western Europe. The Canadian military might be about to see better times. Hopefully this will turn into another Afghanistan for Russia. NATO's chief concern right now is will the Russians stop at the outer Ukraine borders, They are now scrambling to reinforce those border countries with new troops. But here is the problem Most NATO countries have been down sizing their military for years now, leaving them unprepared, under equipped . As for Canada, even if Justin opened up the all the banks today, Canada would have nothing or very little to contribute, at most it might be able to send a brigade size force maybe 6-7000 troops, but it would have to strip equipment and man power from the other 2 brigades. they are brigades on paper only. It should be noted ( Brigade is the smallest battle element on a strategic map) Any equipment lost in combat, would be gone forever, there is not enough time place orders for new equipment as most NATO countries would be concerned about equipping their own nations military.. And the equipment that brigade has now is mostly obsolete, when compared to Russian, or any of our allied it would be like going to war with bolt action ross rifles, while the other side has AK74. nothing has changed since Gulf war I and II, Afghanistan, where we embarrassed our nation by showing up for a conflict with our plaid PJ's and slippers and a fur tuque ...a G-7 country unable no unwilling to equip it's military with anything of value, not to mention all the defensive pacts we have signed has to make you wonder... Experts around the globe have been telling Canada this for years to NO avail, Any future conflict will be come as you are, meaning if you don't have it your not getting it any time soon.. But hey we have done the same thing in WWI and WWII, stripped our military to the bones, in some cases to a mere couple thousand regular force personal, and in doing so it means our lack of action in the last 20 years is going to cost lives lots of them. Once todays trained army is gone or lost, who is going to train the next batch , who is going to lead them, what experience are they going to draw on... we have not learned anything from our history, becasue we have been to busy chasing the all mighty dollar... An historian once said it is cheaper to bury soldiers than it is to equip them for modern Combat, I think our governments took that to be the direction to take. What Canadians forget is when the shit does hit the fan, and their sons and daughters are called up to fight, they to will have the same equipment to fight with.. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Aristides Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Live cams of Kiev show pretty much...nothing. Even FOX says otherwise. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/russia-decapitating-ukraine-government-invasion-first-phase-us-official Quote
Aristides Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: And only you, the WEF and The Ukraine care. Guess that's why all the western countries are announcing unprecedented sanctions on Russia, including their likely exclusion from the SWIFT banking system. Boris Johnson just announced a whole litany of sanctions. Starmer stood up and said bring them on, the opposition will support them. Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 On 1/19/2022 at 11:32 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said: Damn Russia. This country or nation has done nothing but harm to the whole world. Not to mention killing of millions of their own people post revolution, just a look at their recent aggression, military invasion of Hungary in 1956, military invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1967, military invasion of Afghanistan in 1980, and now they plan to invade defenseless nation of Ukraine. They are also allied with the most murderous regimes in the world like Bashir Assad of Syria and islamic republic regime imposed on defenseless Iranian nation. Death to Russia. I hope this country is completely and totally destroyed from the face of this planet and everyone will be better off. This damn evil country did it again after weeks of denials they eventually did it and invaded Ukraine. Murderous Putin no wonder his best friends and allies are islamic Iran, Military murderous Assad and murderous North Korea. Quote
PIK Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 3 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: This damn evil country did it again after weeks of denials they eventually did it and invaded Ukraine. Murderous Putin no wonder his best friends and allies are islamic Iran, Military murderous Assad and murderous North Korea. Putin wants to relive the good times. Nothing to do with Hunter or Trump or anybody. Putin wants the USSR back. So simple. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, PIK said: Putin wants to relive the good times. Nothing to do with Hunter or Trump or anybody. Putin wants the USSR back. So simple. A transformation of evil Russian empire to evil Soviet empire. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted February 24, 2022 Report Posted February 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: A transformation of evil Russian empire to evil Soviet empire. Most of the enlargement of the Russian Empire came in the 19th century under the Czars, not under the Soviets. Quote
BeaverFever Posted February 25, 2022 Report Posted February 25, 2022 9 hours ago, Nationalist said: Once again we see that you are incapable of sticking to the facts and truth. Why is anyone surprised? I didn't say that Russia is entitled to anything. I said the Russian empire started in the Ukrainian lands. I also said that Putin is well aware of who the leader of the USA, and by extension NATO, and takes advantage of the week willed ones that come along. Interestingly enough...they all are Democrats. On August 26th, Russia broke the French-brokered deal by recognizing Georgia’s break-away regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia as independent countries. For the past ten years, Russia has occupied Abkhazia and South Ossetia in violation of the ceasefire agreement. Trump Republicans...favour actions by their governing bodies be taken to their benefit...not the benefit of other people in other nations.! I don't know Putin, so I don't like or really dislike the person. I do, however, respect his judgment. He appears to know when he can make moves, by gauging the fibre of the opposition. A skill...I might add...not terribly present in Barry or Ol' Joe. As for George...we both know that the USA had no stomach for more wars in 2008...the year Barrack Hussein Obama was elected POTUS. Please stop this intellectual flailing about. Its embarrassing to watch. What hilarious apologizing! Putin’s Russia is an enemy of the west and of America and the Democrats treat him as such, unlike Trump and his acolytes who continue to fawn all over Putin And you’re calling for appeasing Putin and ignoring his aggression in Europe exactly the way Republicans called for appeasing Hitler and ignoring his aggression in Europe, its no surprise considering you’re all right-wing fascists These Are the American Right-Wingers Covering for Putin as Russia Invades Ukraine From Tucker Carlson to Tulsi Gabbard, these prominent Moscow apologists tried to tell you Ukraine’s fate shouldn’t matter to America https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/these-are-the-american-right-wingers-covering-for-putin-as-russia-invades-ukraine-1311965/ Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Posted February 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: ....Putin’s Russia is an enemy of the west and of America and the Democrats treat him as such, unlike Trump and his acolytes who continue to fawn all over Putin Obama = Putin invades Crimea Trump = Russian troops get bombed in Syria Biden = Putin invades Ukraine Meanwhile, Canada's NATO capabilities have been seriously degraded by years of neglect and deadbeat defence spending. Send Christia Freeland over to defend her beloved Ukraine. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Aristides said: Most of the enlargement of the Russian Empire came in the 19th century under the Czars, not under the Soviets. Evil is not only summarized in enlargement but millions of executions after the evil communist revolution that followed violation of human rights, oppression and repression of half of Europe over half a century of evil communist rule. Quote
BeaverFever Posted February 25, 2022 Report Posted February 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Obama = Putin invades Crimea Trump = Russian troops get bombed in Syria Biden = Putin invades Ukraine Meanwhile, Canada's NATO capabilities have been seriously degraded by years of neglect and deadbeat defence spending. Send Christia Freeland over to defend her beloved Ukraine. Well yeah once Putin had his ally Trump in the White House he didn’t need to resort to such direct measures. He could focus on taking down Ukraine from within, while Trump did everything to undermine Europe and NATO and made it clear he was 100% on board with Putin and would not intervene. Trump did mot “bomb Russian troops”. He did one symbolic missile strike gesture on a Syrian base where he warned Russia (and therefore Syria) ahead of time. There were zero Russian casualties and an insignificantly small amount of Syrian equipment/vehicles were destroyed thanks to Trumps advance warning. He did kill a number of civilians including 4 children though. Good job! Even now has Trump yet condemned Putin’s invasion? So far he’s gone out of his way to publicly call the invasion “genius” and “smart” and “wonderful” and called Russian invasion force a “peace force” while his mouthpieces and acolytes like Tucker Carlson openly tell their viewers they’re rooting for Russia Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Posted February 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Well yeah once Putin had his ally Trump in the White House he didn’t need to resort to such direct measures. He could focus on taking down Ukraine from within, while Trump did everything to undermine Europe and NATO and made it clear he was 100% on board with Putin and would not intervene. Trump correctly called out NATO deadbeats like Canada that served to embolden Putin in the first place. Send Christia over...then start whining about what Americans should or shouldn't do. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Aristides Posted February 25, 2022 Report Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump correctly called out NATO deadbeats like Canada that served to embolden Putin in the first place. Send Christia over...then start whining about what Americans should or shouldn't do. He did. No one should go. Geography alone pretty much makes military intervention impossible so are you for stiffer sanctions, fewer sanctions or none at all. Pick a side other than partisan politics. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Posted February 25, 2022 A big weapon in action from a distance. https://rumble.com/vvsmbl-ukraine-war-bm-30-smerch-launched-from-belgorod.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM-30_Smerch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Posted February 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump correctly called out NATO deadbeats like Canada that served to embolden Putin in the first place. Send Christia over...then start whining about what Americans should or shouldn't do. It's getting a little sporty out there. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
BeaverFever Posted February 25, 2022 Report Posted February 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump correctly called out NATO deadbeats like Canada that served to embolden Putin in the first place. Send Christia over...then start whining about what Americans should or shouldn't do. Well “NATO deadbeats”, vs. a power-mad military dictator like Putin threatening the world and invading European neighbors. I guess we all have our priorities ? That Foolish Democrat FDR standing up to Hitler when we all know that instead he should have been trying to undermine England and France and the rest of Europe for being “military deadbeats” and calling Hitler a “genius”…will we ever live it down? You know the US WANTS to outnumber all the other militaries in NATO right? That’s by design and always has been Quote
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