Happy Canada Day to all Canadians.

[CITIZEN_2015]

2 hours ago, RedDog said:

 

As for best country, you have the Scandinavian countries and specifically Norway.

 

Scandinavian countries may have been best decades ago even though taxes were traditionally very high in those countries however, the flow of recent refugees from the third world has taken away the title of best countries to live in from them with high crime rates, racial tensions and new slum areas, This should be a lesson for Canada. Go slow with refugees and new immigrants. Much more selectivity based on potential for positive future contributions and background checks and  and help them initially to be self supportive in a short time and deportation based on very first criminal offense.

[taxme]

31 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Scandinavian countries may have been best decades ago even though taxes were traditionally very high in those countries however, the flow of recent refugees from the third world has taken away the title of best countries to live in from them with high crime rates, racial tensions and new slum areas, This should be a lesson for Canada. Go slow with refugees and new immigrants. Much more selectivity based on potential for positive future contributions and background checks and  and help them initially to be self supportive in a short time and deportation based on very first criminal offense.

Sweden was pretty much a crime free country until they started to import third world troublemakers from Africa and Muslim countries. Now Sweden is suffering from a massive crime wave as a result of those 3rd world imports. Massive 3rd world immigration has been happening in Canada for decades now. How much longer will it be before Canada starts to see crime rise as a result of massive 3rd world immigration. Although most crimes being committed by some of those 3rd world people will no doubt not be reported by our Canadian media. They prefer to just report on crimes being committed by white people.

Anyway, so far, so good. I will give it less then a decade though. Only time will tell. Just saying. 

[CITIZEN_2015]

2 minutes ago, taxme said:

 Although most crimes being committed by some of those 3rd world people will no doubt not be reported by our Canadian media. They prefer to just report on crimes being committed by white people.

Now this is a lie. The media reports crimes by whoever it is committed. Are you saying that in the recent gang related street shootouts in Ottawa committed mainly by Middle Eastern men they were not reported by media?

As I said Canadian immigration policies need charging in favor of lower quantity and higher quality or we may see in Canada in a few decades what we are seeing in Sweden now. Politicians must put aside their selfishness and find the balls to do what is right for Canada. And before anyone accusing me of being anti-immigrant, I am an immigrant myself and citizen for decades but born not in Canada though care for Canada more than any other country.

[taxme]

25 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Now this is a lie. The media reports crimes by whoever it is committed. Are you saying that in the recent gang related street shootouts in Ottawa committed mainly by Middle Eastern men they were not reported by media?

As I said Canadian immigration policies need charging in favor of lower quantity and higher quality or we may see in Canada in a few decades what we are seeing in Sweden now. Politicians must put aside their selfishness and find the balls to do what is right for Canada. And before anyone accusing me of being anti-immigrant, I am an immigrant myself and citizen for decades but born not in Canada though care for Canada more than any other country.

I never hear of any crimes being committed by ME scum on TV here in BC. Indeed, our immigration policy needs to be reviewed and revised. Canada needs to bring in more white people into Canada has it had been done for decades in the past. White people are really becoming a minority in their own white homeland. This needs to end if our white people are to survive as a race in Canada. The alternative will not be so good or great for white people if they do become a minority in Canada. We see already that many 3rd world cultures are not even trying to assimilate into our white culture and traditions. The leftist liberals have seen to that. Shocking indeed. ☹️ 

[Zeitgeist]

5 hours ago, RedDog said:

I prefer to extend a Happy Dominion Day and I'd prefer it even more under the proper flag, the Red Ensign, not the Liberal Party logo flag of 1965.

As for best country, you have the Scandinavian countries and specifically Norway.

 

Norway only beats Canada because it maximized its oil resources.  

[CITIZEN_2015]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

I never hear of any crimes being committed by ME scum on TV here in BC. Indeed, our immigration policy needs to be reviewed and revised. Canada needs to bring in more white people into Canada has it had been done for decades in the past. White people are really becoming a minority in their own white homeland. This needs to end if our white people are to survive as a race in Canada. The alternative will not be so good or great for white people if they do become a minority in Canada. We see already that many 3rd world cultures are not even trying to assimilate into our white culture and traditions. The leftist liberals have seen to that. Shocking indeed. ☹️ 

We don't hear about crimes in BC here in Ontario either unless it is major and people get killed. Canada is a vast country.

It is not about bringing in White people but good people. All those Russian mafia gangsters or Bosnian criminals or Eastern Europeans involved in gang related crimes or prostitution and pimping are all white and I prefer the honest hardworking black African or even a hard working middle eastern Muslim or a hard working honest colored west Asian to those white trash gangsters who will contaminate Canada by their arrival.

Your mind is so blind with racism that you see everything as black and white. I feel sorry for you. Your heart is filled with hate. You don't enjoy life as every time you go out and most likely see a colored face, your blood pressure goes up and your heart filled with anger. You are imprisoned in the cage of your own hate.

[myata]

43 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Norway only beats Canada because it maximized its oil resources.  

In Norway MP earns little less than a double of an average salary

In Canada, it's way over 3 times, plus unknown "allowances".

That may go some way in explaining maximizations in different spheres. We must be doing way better than Norway to afford such a good paying Parliament.

[Zeitgeist]

Of course, Canada is the centre of the universe.   Just please stay away from Toronto.  Too many people want to come here.   

[cougar]

On 7/3/2021 at 12:48 PM, taxme said:

What Canada are you talking about? The old Canada died in 1980.

We saw statues of Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth 11 being toppled by a bunch of native Indians in Winnipeg on Canada Day. Our Canadian traditions and cultures are under attack every day by the likes of Castro Trudeau who hates Canada.

The statues were toppled as a result of the mass graves found in school yards.  Kids died during the old Canada times.

You think the new Canada is better than the old one and can be celebrated?

[cougar]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

Of course, Canada is the centre of the universe.   Just please stay away from Toronto.  Too many people want to come here.   

Not me.

I saw it with my own two eyes, left as soon as I could and am never going back.

[OftenWrong]

6 hours ago, cougar said:

You think the new Canada is better than the old one and can be celebrated?

No. It's a lie. It's a fancy hair do, but didn't shower.

[myata]

8 hours ago, cougar said:

You think the new Canada is better than the old one and can be celebrated?

It depends. I don't think public CEO with a $2M golden parachute for failed leadership, GG with lifetime expenses paid by taxpayers and MP with $185 K plus allowances plus pensions plus all expenses paid by taxpayers have any reasons to not celebrate the new Canada.

The question is different though: will there be enough for everybody (else) and how long will the party last.

[OftenWrong]

Just the other day the Minister of Indigenous Affairs taunted the only indigenous MP, who is a woman. By their own modern Canadian rules she is the most oppressed type of person in the country, yet the tweet is given a pass. This came right after finding out there were hundred more graves at another site.

Ok fine, give it a pass, she apologized. I am fine with that.

But let's look at what this episode says to natives, like to young native girls when they find out what happened. What is the message here? Was that not a quick, visceral reaction from a white, entitled and empowered person who actually holds the Indigenous Affairs cabinet post? What is her real attitude about indigenous affairs?

I say systemic racism... if it exists at all, is right there.

----

So Mr. Trudeau, where are your morals and principles now, at a time like this.

Natives do not need flags at half-mast, what does it do for them? That is for white people to feel comforted. Renaing buildings, removing statues. What are they more than empty gestures, symbolic at best but symbolizing nothing.

Do not expect natives to be satisfied by this. Only a fool would find this gratifying.

Next up, petition the UN. Sue Canada.

[Yzermandius19]

17 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Just the other day the Minister of Indigenous Affairs taunted the only indigenous MP, who is a woman. By their own modern Canadian rules she is the most oppressed type of person in the country, yet the tweet is given a pass. This came right after finding out there were hundred more graves at another site.

so?

are indigenous female MP's not allowed to be criticized

without it being deemed racist and sexist now?

Edited July 5, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[OftenWrong]

3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

So?

Are indigenous female MP's not allowed to be criticized

without it being deemed racist and sexist now?

Of course.

But if you set that high bar as a standard

by which I have to live by

then I say

so die then

on your own sword

it is the only justice now

you must self immolate

or at least

stfu

and get to work

 

Edited July 5, 2021 by OftenWrong

[blackbird]

10 hours ago, cougar said:

The statues were toppled as a result of the mass graves found in school yards.  Kids died during the old Canada times.

You think the new Canada is better than the old one and can be celebrated?

What happened 50 or 100 years ago is no excuse to destroy property that belongs to Canadians.  The criminals need to be brought to justice.

[blackbird]

18 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

We don't hear about crimes in BC here in Ontario either unless it is major and people get killed. Canada is a vast country.

It is not about bringing in White people but good people. All those Russian mafia gangsters or Bosnian criminals or Eastern Europeans involved in gang related crimes or prostitution and pimping are all white and I prefer the honest hardworking black African or even a hard working middle eastern Muslim or a hard working honest colored west Asian to those white trash gangsters who will contaminate Canada by their arrival.

Your mind is so blind with racism that you see everything as black and white. I feel sorry for you. Your heart is filled with hate. You don't enjoy life as every time you go out and most likely see a colored face, your blood pressure goes up and your heart filled with anger. You are imprisoned in the cage of your own hate.

Canada is bringing some bad people into the country.  That needs to stop.  Why is the media hiding the information about the suspect who reportedly deliberately killed the police officer in Toronto?  Where did he come from and when did he arrive in Canada?

[cougar]

2 hours ago, myata said:

It depends. I don't think public CEO with a $2M golden parachute for failed leadership, GG with lifetime expenses paid by taxpayers and MP with $185 K plus allowances plus pensions plus all expenses paid by taxpayers have any reasons to not celebrate the new Canada.

The reason for celebration shouldn't be the compensation one gets only.

We celebrate if we are generally successful as individuals and happy with what we have achieved as a country.

If we are not too happy with personal achievements , don't see reason for pride in what the country has accomplished, don't feel like part of a nation, then we will be "celebrating"  nothing, and doing it because others around us are used to celebrating nothing.

Edited July 5, 2021 by cougar

[myata]

2 hours ago, cougar said:

We celebrate if we are generally successful as individuals and happy with what we have achieved as a country.

Well yes, but where is the objective measure of success? It's in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? What was achieved as a nation? We achieved huge MP salaries, way higher proportionally than in Norway; we have achieved 100 years of residential school history without much bothering what went on until it was impossible to look the other way. We have achieved Phoenix system and travel from Wuhan. Sure spent uncounted taxpayer billions on massive purchasing and task forces (that we still can). We are achieving both rental and owned housing crisis, without any clue what to do with it. I'd like to add some more, of essence and of value; could someone help me?

Edited July 5, 2021 by myata

[OftenWrong]

Canada is the fruit of the British colonial system that slew the natives and put them in reserves, and engaged them in their wars against the French.

I know some old folks who are part native, and part French Canadian. See that is the difference right there, the British killed the hell out of them. French did not. More like the opposite, lived among them, screwed their women, even, horny little Frenshmen as they were. They even got married, had children.

The Metis.

 

[Nefarious Banana]

French integrated with the natives much easier than any(thing) from the British Isles.  The French seemed to have darker complexions/eyes and the transition was more acceptable at the time.  

[blackbird]

Interesting how certain groups get special status in Canada, making  the rest of us second class.  Even the French who married natives are called Metis and given special status.  Figure that out.  What makes them so special?  Some Canadians with special status get certain benefits the rest of don't get and have to pay for ourselves.

"The Government of the Northwest Territories (GNWT) sponsors the Métis Health Benefits program to provide eligible Indigenous Métis residents of the Northwest Territories access to a range of benefits not covered by hospital and medical care insurance. Through this program, NWT residents receive coverage for eligible prescription drugs, dental services, vision care, medical supplies and equipment."  

NWT Métis Health Benefits Program | Health and Social Services (gov.nt.ca)

Edited July 5, 2021 by blackbird

[cougar]

1 hour ago, myata said:

Well yes, but where is the objective measure of success? It's in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? What was achieved as a nation? We achieved huge MP salaries, way higher proportionally than in Norway; we have achieved 100 years of residential school history without much bothering what went on until it was impossible to look the other way. We have achieved Phoenix system and travel from Wuhan. Sure spent uncounted taxpayer billions on massive purchasing and task forces (that we still can). We are achieving both rental and owned housing crisis, without any clue what to do with it. I'd like to add some more, of essence and of value; could someone help me?

I take it you did not celebrate July 1st.

First Nations said they celebrate the fact they have survived.

For me it was a day off that I spent in the mountains with my dog - happy to be alive and be able to climb peaks.

[myata]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

provide eligible Indigenous Métis residents of the Northwest Territories access to a range of benefits not covered by hospital and medical care insurance..

Ah, some health benefits and we have all of our expenses picked up by the taxpayer (GG group). Right here, with the rest of us.

[myata]

The fanfare of freedom loving is not the same as caring for freedom. Loving freedom means being aware and alert, watching the government, stopping and preventing the abuses of power, not just compensating and apologizing long after. Loving freedom does not mean automatic engagement in colonial wars. Loving freedom does not mean war measures act on a single domestic threat. It doesn't mean two decades of "expertise" of pseudo experts like Charlie Smith in various courts and postponing judicial decisions on questionable epidemics measures. It does not mean travel from Wuhan sorry restrictive quarantines indefinitely on a dime without explanations and justifications. Loving freedom means watching the world, understanding it, changing and adapting to it. It means citizen representatives who hold powers responsible, not eat from their hands. And now, one of the next Canada days we better try to figure out which one it is.