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[Infidel Dog]

That's a fair assessment.

I could see somebody making that argument, but this claim 60 or more judges carefully assessed all evidence and found it lacking is nonsense. It never happened. It's a lie from liars for the gullible.

[Guest]

21 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

That is what I read the other day- judges wouldn't even touch the case. Too incendiary. Presumably it was better to have a stolen election and ake democracy than a civil war.

 

 

16 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

That's a fair assessment.

I could see somebody making that argument, but this claim 60 or more judges carefully assessed all evidence and found it lacking is nonsense. It never happened. It's a lie from liars for the gullible.

If the courts had found evidence of fraud and reversed the results of the election, or even just called for separate re-elections in disputed districts, where would the civil war have come from?  Antifa?

Edited January 18, 2021 by bcsapper

[Infidel Dog]

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[DogOnPorch]

32 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

 

If the courts had found evidence of fraud and reversed the results of the election, or even just called for separate re-elections in disputed districts, where would the civil war have come from?  Antifa?

 

ANTIFA are more the street thugs like the Brown Shirts. Brawling, setting fires, breaking glass.

There are rather capable looking groups of Black Panthers milling about that look like they could make your Bull Run. Well armed...vests...the works, so to speak. I wouldn't put it past them if things seemed expedient. 

The far right types, of course, are better armed than most armies. Any of them...

Edited January 19, 2021 by DogOnPorch

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

ANTIFA are more the street thugs like the Brown Shirts. Brawling, setting fires, breaking glass.

There are rather capable looking groups of Black Panthers milling about that look like they could make your Bull Run. Well armed...vests...the works, so to speak. I wouldn't put it past them if things seemed expedient. 

The far right types, of course, are better armed than most armies. Any of them...

Well that's what I thought.  If the courts first priority was to avoid a civil war, they went the wrong way about it

[DogOnPorch]

6 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Well that's what I thought.  If the courts first priority was to avoid a civil war, they went the wrong way about it

 

If it's going to happen...it's going to happen. I don't think these attempts to cut-out-the-tongues of the opposition will amount to a peaceful conclusion...just saying. Folks wanted to be heard and they are being soundly denied.

Now there's the image of armed soldiers, walls & razor wire surrounding the Capitol. If they fear the population THAT much...perhaps there's something to that  ol' stolen election stuff.

Convenient though that Joe's multitudes of followers that got him elected won't have to show-up. They sure didn't bother during his entire campaign. Pre-Wuhan Flu...no matter.

Edited January 19, 2021 by DogOnPorch

[Shady]

The media already has its propaganda machine running smoothly for Dementia Joe.

 

 

[Aristides]

3 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

So judges don't have to consider evidence, because they just know? Is that what you're saying? Sounds like it. Because if it is, I just have to scratch my head and wonder, 'Is this guy serious?"

The Supreme Court refused to take the case the 18 states asked them to consider on the grounds they didn't believe those states had the standing to present the case. It had nothing to do with evidence.

I'm pretty sure you know that so I have to believe you're getting desperate to divert from the fact no court ever considered the evidence.

 

You have to present a credible case before you can present evidence. 

The SCOTUS didn't take the 18 states case on the grounds that states have no right to tell other states how to run their elections, Which they don't

Edited January 19, 2021 by Aristides

[Guest]

4 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

If it's going to happen...it's going to happen. I don't think these attempts to cut-out-the-tongues of the opposition will amount to a peaceful conclusion...just saying. Folks wanted to be heard and they are being soundly denied.

Now there's the image of armed soldiers, walls & razor wire surrounding the Capitol. If they fear the population THAT much...perhaps there's something to that  ol' stolen election stuff.

Convenient though that Joe's multitudes of followers that got him elected won't have to show-up. They sure didn't bother during his entire campaign. Pre-Wuhan Flu...no matter.

I think it's probably going to happen, eventually.  Trump's election and popularity are symptoms of a much larger problem.  The world is getting smaller, the population is getting larger, and now everyone can see what everyone else has got, and they want it.  And there isn't enough to go around.

[sharkman]

6 hours ago, Aristides said:

 

Trump has never lost an election he hasn't claimed was rigged. He even claimed primaries that he lost were rigged. He claimed the 2012 election was rigged in favour of Obama. The guy is the biggest effing liar ever to live in the Whitehouse and that takes quite some doing.

He’s only lost one election.  And claimed for one single election that it was rigged.   Get back to me when he’s lost 5 or 6 and claimed they were all rigged, then you’d have something.

Hilary only lost one presidential election too, and bitched about it for years afterward.  I think she was still bitching about it being stolen last week.

[Cannucklehead]

2 minutes ago, sharkman said:

He’s only lost one election.  And claimed for one single election that it was rigged.   Get back to me when he’s lost 5 or 6 and claimed they were all rigged, then you’d have something.

Hilary only lost one presidential election too, and bitched about it for years afterward.  I think she was still bitching about it being stolen last week.

Donald Trump has been a presidential candidate three times, in 2000, 2016, and 2020 respectively. His second presidential campaign in 2016 was successful; he was elected 45th president of the United States on November 8, 2016 and inaugurated on January 20, 2017.

[Aristides]

4 minutes ago, sharkman said:

He’s only lost one election.  And claimed for one single election that it was rigged.   Get back to me when he’s lost 5 or 6 and claimed they were all rigged, then you’d have something.

Hilary only lost one presidential election too, and bitched about it for years afterward.  I think she was still bitching about it being stolen last week.

When  he lost a primary to Cruz he claimed it was rigged. He claimed the 2016 election was rigged until he realized he had won. He claimed the 2012 election was rigged against Romney.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/11/29/all-the-elections-trump-has-claimed-were-stolen-through-voter-fraud/?sh=3cbbf0b71d30

[sharkman]

18 minutes ago, Aristides said:

When  he lost a primary to Cruz he claimed it was rigged. He claimed the 2016 election was rigged until he realized he had won. He claimed the 2012 election was rigged against Romney.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/11/29/all-the-elections-trump-has-claimed-were-stolen-through-voter-fraud/?sh=3cbbf0b71d30

A primary is not an election.  He was not in the 2012 election.  You shouldn't bother with yellow journalism.

 

[Aristides]

28 minutes ago, sharkman said:

A primary is not an election.  He was not in the 2012 election.  You shouldn't bother with yellow journalism.

 

A primary is an election, it decides who that state's delegates will vote for as the party's candidate. Kind of like the electoral college that Trump only believes in when he wins.

He claimed there was fraud in all those elections whether he was in them or not.

[sharkman]

A primary is not an election.

 Why is this so important to you?  If it’s that important, just come out and say he was in 12 elections and he claimed fraud and all of them and be done with it. How many primaries was he in, he was probably in some elections in high school too.  Lets be thorough.

At he end of the day it really doesn’t matter to me, you can have the win.  Wednesday is all that matters to me right now.

[Infidel Dog]

7 hours ago, Aristides said:

You have to present a credible case before you can present evidence. 

Not sure what you're talking about but at least you're admitting now that the cases filed including the few filed by Trump were not judged based on evidence.

Good for you. It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong.

[BubberMiley]

7 hours ago, Aristides said:

When  he lost a primary to Cruz he claimed it was rigged. He claimed the 2016 election was rigged until he realized he had won. 

When the Apprentce didn't win an Emmy, he said it was rigged...

[BubberMiley]

5 hours ago, sharkman said:

A primary is not an election.

 

Then why are they called primary elections?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_election

[Boges]

4 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Not sure what you're talking about but at least you're admitting now that the cases filed including the few filed by Trump were not judged based on evidence.

Good for you. It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong.

I think the fact that no actual evidence of fraud was presented in court says something different than you're implying. 

No lawyer was willing to go in front of a judge and present the hearsay and innuendo brought by flimsy video inorder to throw out the votes of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people. 

The real evidence will come when the likes of Sidney Powell have to defend herself in a liable lawsuit against Dominion Voting Machines. She'll have ample opportunity to prove her claims then. 

[Boges]

6 hours ago, sharkman said:

At he end of the day it really doesn’t matter to me, you can have the win.  Wednesday is all that matters to me right now.

Why? You still holding out hope Trump stays in power? 

The fact is, anyone that has an ounce of ability for critical thought would realize that Trump plays this fraud card anytime he loses anything. 

[Brutus]

4 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Not sure what you're talking about but at least you're admitting now that the cases filed including the few filed by Trump were not judged based on evidence.

Good for you. It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong.

I was just going to say that you're the most deluded Trumpist I've seen, but then I remember that almost half the population of America is just as deluded as you. 

 

You act like you are against the "deep state" and the establishment, but are too dumb to realise that Trump IS the establishment! He is a walking symbol of capitalism, of the rich elite controlling all wealth and making sure that it stays that way. 

Any below average income holder voting for Trump are voting against themselves! He wants to make sure that the rich stays rich and the poor stays poor, so you are effectively voting away your chances of ever having equal chances yourselves. 

 

You are against Obamacare, when in fact the main benificiary of it is low income white people, the majority of which voted for Trump! How stupid can you get? These people want to rip up their only personal access to healthcare!

 

You claim election fraud without a shred of evidence. Not one single piece of credible evidence. If you can't show it to the courts, why not just leak it? If Trump was sitting on any type of real evidence he would have leaked it by now no question about it. It's a conspiracy theory that has been dismissed by Trump's own appointed judges!

 

And the last thing, your disgusting propaganda of Biden being a pedophile. Did you know that Trump has said that he would f*ck his own daughter if she wasn't his daughter?He has also admitted to grabbing random women by the p*ssy "because he can do anything he wants"

 

You people are being taken on a ride but are too dumb to see it

Edited January 19, 2021 by Brutus

[DogOnPorch]

8 minutes ago, Brutus said:

 

 

You people are being taken on a ride but are too dumb to see it

 

You're free to support and carry water for the Socialists/Communists/Fascists you champion here at MLW. A true free speech zone. Would you like to ban a few folks here already? Perhaps wait a few days...get to know people before you cut their tongues out.

Edited January 19, 2021 by DogOnPorch

[Boges]

7 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

You're free to support and carry water for the Socialists/Communists/Fascists you champion here at MLW. A true free speech zone. 

You say that until you find yourself in Der Cooler again. 

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Boges said:

You say that until you find yourself in Der Cooler again. 

 

Forty nine trips to the Cooler before I demanded reform & fairness. Seems to be holding.

[Brutus]

16 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

You're free to support and carry water for the Socialists/Communists/Fascists you champion here at MLW. A true free speech zone. Would you like to ban a few folks here already? Perhaps wait a few days...get to know people before you cut their tongues out.

Oh yes, classic right wing response there! Present facts why you are a total hypocrite, all of a sudden I am attacking democracy and trying to censure discussion! The facists here are the MAGA-idiots. I'm not saying for a second that all Trump-voters are fascists, but all fascists are Trump-voters!

 

Second of all, you have NO IDEA what socialism/communism is. You have just been fed decades of propaganda against it, since the US has been fighting a war on it for so long. You have been taught that anything left of centre is a radical liberal.

The funny thing is that you don't even have radical leftists in the US. Your democrats would be considered centre or right wing in most other civilised countries. Biden for example would probably be a right wing capitalist in Western Europe 

 

There is a huge spectrum among the left wing, not everyone left of centre is a socialist. I support free healthcare because I think it is a basic civil right and not a privilege. I also support higher taxes for the rich.  But I also support private ownership(although not in healthcare, elderly care or schools, those sectors should never be run for profit) in many sectors, which goes straight against what communism stands for. 

 

If you say that everyone left of centre is a socialist, then I can say that everyone right of centre is a neo-nazi who idolises Hitler. Do you realise how incredibly stupid that is?