eyeball Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shady said: Complete nonsense. Enacting FEMA isn’t destructive. Enacting the army corps or engineers isn’t destructive. Enacting the CDC isn’t destructive. Enacting travel bans isn’t destructive. Enacting the Defence Production Act isn’t destructive. Trump's enacting of travel bans were demonstrably destructive because he merely provided an illusion of security. He compounded this exponentially by claiming everything was under control. Humpty Dumpty only enacted everything else to put himself back together after it was patently clear no one had anything under control at all. Quote Your hyperbole is out of control. See a doctor. Your sycophancy is illogical. See a political scientist. Edited April 8, 2020 by eyeball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Trump's enacting of travel bans were demonstrably destructive because he merely provided an illusion of security. He compounded this exponentially by claiming everything was under control. Humpty Dumpty only enacted everything else to put himself back together after it was patently clear no one had anything under control at all. Still better than Trudeau...Trump's wife Melania did not get infected and cause him to quarantine for weeks. Trudeau remains in hiding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Trump's enacting of travel bans were demonstrably destructive because he merely provided an illusion of security. He compounded this exponentially by claiming everything was under control. Humpty Dumpty only enacted everything else to put himself back together after it was patently clear no one had anything under control at all. No, it wasn’t an illusion. It’s just that a large number of people had already travelled from China during the previous couple of months. You need to stop letting your hate for Trump get in the way of reality. Travel data of passengers arriving in the United States from China during the critical period in December, January and February, when the disease took hold in that country, shows a stunning 759,493 people entered the U.S. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/disaster-motion-34-million-travelers-poured-us-coronavirus/story?id=69933625 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 The non existent travel ban! United, Delta, American Airlines Suspending All U.S. Flights to China https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/delta-suspending-all-flights-to-china/2274160/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 See how the goal posts have moved. It’s not that the travel ban isn’t a good idea any more, it’s that there wasn’t really a ban! Trump Derangement Syndrome at its finest! Orange man bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Iceni warrior said: A potential treatment is worth investigating. What a fucking genius. Now all we have to do is find someone who thinks it isn't worth investigating possible treatments to make Trump's deflection valid. Of course, some might say that Trump is spending so much time hyping an unproven drug in order to calm the markets and increase his chances of reelection. Not me though, now you have shown what a genius he is for saying it is worth investigating potential treatments I shall be mounting a campaign to get him the Nobel prize for chemistry he so clearly deserves. He's using the bully pulpit to keep people's eye on the prize, and it's a negative somehow. Trump Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug, but lets find out if Chloroquine is a helluva drug and stop bashing Trump for suggesting it. He said nothing wrong and the TDS crowd still jumps down his throat, that's a clear sign of TDS. Edited April 8, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Shady said: No there absolutely was a ban. But yes, in November, December, and January a lot of people from China traveled to the United States. Shady, the date on the article I linked to is Apr 4th. It reported that people were still flying in from China last week. Why haven't you read it yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni warrior Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Shady said: The non existent travel ban! United, Delta, American Airlines Suspending All U.S. Flights to China https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/delta-suspending-all-flights-to-china/2274160/ Which, of course, Trump claimed the credit for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, eyeball said: Shady, the date on the article I linked to is Apr 4th. It reported that people were still flying in from China last week. Why haven't you read it yet? No that’s not true. Other than medical personnel and medical equipment, no, you’re just not telling the truth. I’m glad you’ve come around though and realized the ban was necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Boges said: He's contradicting the advice of his own specialists by creating unrealistic expectations from this drug. To the point that he refused to let Fauci answer questions about the drug. He did no such thing, he didn't create unrealistic expectations. He simply said there is cause for hope, and that is true, you're deranged to pretend that is a negative somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Iceni warrior said: Which, of course, Trump claimed the credit for... Well he did enact a ban January 31st. You guys really need to make up your mind. Is it that the ban wasn’t necessary, that it was too late, that it didn’t work, or that its racist. You guys are all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: He did no such thing, he didn't create unrealistic expectations. He simply said there is cause for hope, and that is true, you're deranged to pretend that is a negative somehow. Exacty. Fauci has answered dozens of questions on the subject. More Trump Derangement Syndrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni warrior Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: He's using the bully pulpit to keep people's eye on the prize, and it's a negative somehow. Trump Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug, but lets find out if Chloroquine is a helluva drug and stop bashing Trump for suggesting it. He said nothing wrong and the TDS crowd still jumps down his throat, that's a clear sign of TDS. You can take the advice of Trump over that of medical experts like Fauci and the CDC if you want. TDS indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Iceni warrior said: You can take the advice of Trump over that of medical experts like Fauci and the CDC if you want. TDS indeed. Trump's advice doesn't contradict Fauci at all, deranged. Stop listening to your anti-Trump media outlets, they are filling your mind with garbage. Edited April 8, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Shady said: No, it wasn’t an illusion. It’s just that a large number of people had already travelled from China during the previous couple of months. And another 40000 more came the following couple of months right up until last week. Why can't you acknowledge that and move on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Iceni warrior said: You can take the advice of Trump over that of medical experts like Fauci and the CDC if you want. TDS indeed. No, you’re refusing to listen to respected doctors on the ground using the drug to help people recover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, eyeball said: And another 40000 more came the following couple of months right up until last week. Why can't you acknowledge that and move on? No that’s not true. Because it’s not true. Stop lying. Edited April 8, 2020 by Shady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni warrior Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Shady said: Well he did enact a ban January 31st. You guys really need to make up your mind. Is it that the ban wasn’t necessary, that it was too late, that it didn’t work, or that its racist. You guys are all over the place. I'm in favour of banning all flights permanently but for reasons other than Covid 19. It was too late and it didn't work. To find out if it was racist I'd have to get inside Trump's head but despite all the wide open space it's not somewhere I want to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Iceni warrior said: To find out if it was racist I'd have to get inside Trump's head but despite all the wide open space it's not somewhere I want to go. At least you can see the light once every thousand times or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Shady said: No that’s not true. Other than medical personnel and medical equipment, no, you’re just not telling the truth. I’m glad you’ve come around though and realized the ban was necessary. Do you have any evidence that the facts in the article I posted are untrue? You're saying all 40000 of these people were medical personnel? Prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Shady said: No that’s not true. Because it’s not true. Stop lying. Quote 40,000 Americans and other authorized travelers have made the trip, some this past week and many with spotty screening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, eyeball said: 40,000 Americans and other authorized travelers have made the trip, some this past week and many with spotty screening. Because notorious Democrat strongholds let them in. Demohack Open Borders Policies for the fail. Quote The bulk of the passengers, who were of multiple nationalities, arrived in January, at airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Chicago, Seattle, Newark and Detroit. Edited April 8, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said: He did no such thing, he didn't create unrealistic expectations. He simply said there is cause for hope, and that is true, you're deranged to pretend that is a negative somehow. So why doesn't Trump say there's no scientific evidence it works? Quote https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/05/coronavirus-fauci-trump-anti-malaria-drug “Take it. What do you have to lose?” Trump said on Saturday, suggesting he might do so himself after asking “my doctors”. On Sunday, Trump said America doesn’t have time “to take a couple years” to test the efficacy of the drug in treating Covid-19. But Dr Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top doctor on infectious diseases and a key member of the White House taskforce, was adamant there was nothing to suggest the medicine had any benefit against coronavirus. “In terms of science, I don’t think we can definitively say it works,” he told CBS’s Face the Nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Boges said: So why doesn't Trump say there's no scientific evidence it works? Because he wants all the rabid Trump haters to leave limited drug supply for the believers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Boges said: So why doesn't Trump say there's no scientific evidence it works? He did. He just said the evidence they do have is promising, so get more of that please. Yet still you jump down his throat, because TDS. Edited April 8, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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