Moonlight Graham Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, Argus said: China is spending and has spent enormous amounts of money on PR to blind the world to what it is: a brutal fascist government with ambitions of world leadership. I'd rather have people hating China, which would help support efforts to distance ourselves from them, then being complacent and accepting whatever our whore political leaders do to bring us closer to them. The Trudeau gov is too busy making the Saudis PO'd over human rights accusations (which will accomplish virtually nothing) to be PO'd that the Saudis have been jacking up OPEC and Saudi oil production in order cripple the Canadian oil industry (among other Saudi competitors). OPEC is a pact of oil-producing developing countries formed to use leverage against Western oil and political interests, and it works. We need to wake up to our competitors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 hours ago, kactus said: Such a silly thread to blame a whole nation for this epidemy... This will just fuel hatred against another nation. Some boys just wanna fight someone. Point em at a target, and they Go! They should never be in charge. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Of course, the Nazis were the bulwark against the Bolsheviks, until they sided with Mussolini against Britain & France over the Suez Canal to India and the Far East beyond. Initially, Hitler and Mussolini were rivals, so Hitler was on our side, then he flipped to Mussolini's side in the Pact of Steel The only difference between the Nazis and People's Republic of China are the means, same end. I'm trying to think of other differences, but I can't. I'm sure in 1937 people would have been ok flooding Nazi Germany with business to grow both of our economies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 On 3/13/2020 at 10:13 PM, Zeitgeist said: I think China is a red herring. I don’t fear China. I think we’re seeing the last gasps of a certain way of life that will be replaced by something else. We just don’t know what it will be and it may be better than what we have. Or maybe something worse. I mean, hello, does anything get better after anything bad happens. I think that we may see the end of the globalist elite way of life or our own way of life. One has to survive. I think that I am going to go with the former. They tend to always win. I am usually right and I win when I take the side of the globalists. Their appears to be nothing all that much to be optimistic and to look forward to anymore. Just doom and gloom. Just the way the globalists and our puppet on a string politicians want it. It's for sure that we the people will not ever win with those mentioned running and trying to ruin all of our lives. But hey, what more can be said. It's the chits, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: The only difference between the Nazis and People's Republic of China are the means, same end. I'm trying to think of other differences, but I can't. I'm sure in 1937 people would have been ok flooding Nazi Germany with business to grow both of our economies. It's not personal, just business, if there is a blockade of Freedom of Navigation, then the fur will fly, but until somebody actually puts a torpedo under a keel, business carries on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Roger Griffin describes fascism as "a genus of political ideology whose mythic core in its various permutations is a palingenetic form of populist ultranationalism".[32] Griffin describes the ideology as having three core components: "(i) the rebirth myth, (ii) populist ultra-nationalism, and (iii) the myth of decadence". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Definitions Another difference is that China calls itself communist, but it really isn't. Fascists don't like communism, they want the economy and workers to service to nation. China used to be communist to help "the workers" of China. It is now "communist" so that the workers can help China become stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, taxme said: Or maybe something worse. I mean, hello, does anything get better after anything bad happens. I think that we may see the end of the globalist elite way of life or our own way of life. One has to survive. I think that I am going to go with the former. They tend to always win. I am usually right and I win when I take the side of the globalists. Their appears to be nothing all that much to be optimistic and to look forward to anymore. Just doom and gloom. Just the way the globalists and our puppet on a string politicians want it. It's for sure that we the people will not ever win with those mentioned running and trying to ruin all of our lives. But hey, what more can be said. It's the chits, man. Well "We the people" have something the globalist will never have... A conscience. Despite our personal flaws, we want to bring more freedom and prosperity to the world... not less. We don't use terms like "Useless Eaters" and "Peasants", or as Henry Kissinger puts it "Military Men Are Dumb, Stupid Animals To Be Used As Pawns For Foreign Policy." My dad use to work for a guy like that... He remixed a song called "12 Day's of Corporate Christmas", and fed it down his employees mouths during a Christmas dinner. He wasn't even that rich, just a globalist wanabe who hung out with his elite buddies. First book get gave my dad was Ayn Rand. An Illuminati Slut. Well she's dead. Well we have George Soros now. Funny thing is, he's not aloud to enter Hungary, every though he was born there. The Hungarians hate globalists. Maybe those Coronavirus antibodies are in George Soro's blood, we could extract them and make a vaccine. If I was Trump, I'd be demanding blood samples from the elite, and I wouldn't give warning. If he's still out and about in public, chances are he's had the vaccine. One blood test could be all the proof you need. Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Argus said: China is spending and has spent enormous amounts of money on PR to blind the world to what it is: a brutal fascist government with ambitions of world leadership. I'd rather have people hating China, which would help support efforts to distance ourselves from them, then being complacent and accepting whatever our whore political leaders do to bring us closer to them. A few months ago, I was giving China the benefit of the doubt... Just because they build vibrant cities do... but I say F@ck them all, until they clean up their act and start having elections. WTF is a social credit score? A person can be denied a train ticket, if the government doesn't like their shopping patterns? If they tried that in America, it be a full blown civil war. Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) We don't need to bow down to China. Down with the CCP. Made in USA... Made in Canada B@tch! Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, ProudConservative said: Well "We the people" have something the globalist will never have... A conscience. Despite our personal flaws, we want to bring more freedom and prosperity to the world... not less. We don't use terms like "Useless Eaters" and "Peasants", or as Henry Kissinger puts it "Military Men Are Dumb, Stupid Animals To Be Used As Pawns For Foreign Policy." My dad use to work for a guy like that... He remixed a song called "12 Day's of Corporate Christmas", and fed it down his employees mouths during a Christmas dinner. He wasn't even that rich, just a globalist wannabe who hung out with his elite buddies. First book get gave my dad was Ayn Rand. An Illuminati Slut. Well she's dead. Well we have George Soros now. Funny thing is, he's not aloud to enter Hungary, every though he was born there. The Hungarians hate globalists. The President of Hungary knows all to well about this bloody disaster for mankind. Soros is one of the most dangerous Zionist leftist globalists on earth. This guy has hundreds of leftist liberal organizations that are always pushing for more socialism and communism. Even our own prime mistake of Canada was seen sitting next to him in some room somewhere. No doubt getting his orders from that pos. There will never be peace and prosperity in the world with shit disturber globalists like him around. He even has been involved in paying people to demonstrate during all those blockades in Canada. Many so called environmental groups are on Soros payroll. What a laugh that is. Btw, why is there no more reporting on the blockades or global warming being reported by the Canadian bought off media anymore? Old hat news now? Even Trump appears to be getting a pass from the Canadian media. I guess once this manufactured made up pandemic is over it will be back to Trump and the other issues mentioned. If Soros wanted too, he could probably get the leftist liberal media to report that there is the belief that the sky is falling down, and they will run with it. There is nothing more exciting for the media to do than to try and spread more bull chit around for the fools who will believe their lies and bs. Just my opinion of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, taxme said: Even our own prime mistake of Canada was seen sitting next to him in some room somewhere. No doubt getting his orders from that pos. How ya doing Taxme? I hope you're having a good day, throughout these shitty times! I disagree. I tend to think that some fool released a bioweapon. The virus could be invented by just one nutcase, but the globalist won't let a good crisis go to waste. Don't you wish things we're made in Canada, so we didn't have to wait for the Chinese to give us our masks? Why are we spending billions on used fighters, and nothing on medical defense? It seems like the military industrial complex wasted too much money on the wrong things. Edited March 18, 2020 by ProudConservative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 18 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: Nazi Germany? The USSR? No in circles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Argus said: China is spending and has spent enormous amounts of money on PR to blind the world to what it is: a brutal fascist government with ambitions of world leadership. I'd rather have people hating China, which would help support efforts to distance ourselves from them, then being complacent and accepting whatever our whore political leaders do to bring us closer to them. There is only one thing that people need to hate about China and that is it's dictatorship's aversion to transparency. That is the CCP's greatest weakness and it's greatest strength is the propensity of our own leaders to avoid transparency too. Opacity makes it too easy to maintain our dependency on China. I've said it before and I'll say it again and say it till the day I die - outlaw in-camera lobbying here in the west and everything around the world will change. Realigning our relationship with China on a foundation of race based hatred instead is the stupidest way forward bar none. The cause of this virus' global reach was largely due to China's governments fear of criticism and much of the failure of the west's response can be laid at the same alter of official narcissism. COVID-19's silver lining is that it has awakened the world to rethink where its headed and why and we'll probably only get one chance to do this right and racism will just fuck everything up. Quote Beijing Fears COVID-19 Is Turning Point for China, Globalization The world never should have been put at risk by the coronavirus. Equally, it never should have let itself become so economically dependent on China. The uniqueness of the coronavirus epidemic is to bring the two seemingly separate issues together. That is why Beijing is desperate to evade blame, not merely for its initial incompetence, but because the costs of the system it has built since 1980 are now coming into long-delayed focus. Coronavirus is a diabolus ex machina that threatens the bases of China’s modern interaction with foreign nations, from tourism to trade, and from cultural exchange to scientific collaboration. Xi can best avoid this fate by adopting the very transparency that he and the party have assiduously avoided. Yet openness is a mortal threat to the continued rule of the CCP. The virus thus exposes the CCP’s mortal paradox, one which shows the paralysis at the heart of modern China. For this reason alone, the world’s dependence on China should be responsibly reduced. Edited March 18, 2020 by eyeball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 16 hours ago, ProudConservative said: ... the globalist won't let a good crisis go to waste. Oh GOOD. YOU must know what a globalist is. In the context of this crisis, please explain it to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni warrior Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Oh GOOD. YOU must know what a globalist is. In the context of this crisis, please explain it to me. Oh God, don't encourage him to talk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudConservative Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 You got to love Fox News! I say we join with out American allies and give China some serious payback after this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni warrior Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 On 3/14/2020 at 6:55 AM, ProudConservative said: I think the world should put an ultimatum on China... Either open themselves up for elections, or we have a total boycott on their products. Which would collapse the world's economy quicker than the black death. Every Chinese product sold in the west is making money for the importers and retailers and saving money for the hard pressed consumers who choose to buy it. Besides, if you did stop buying Chinese goods production would simply move to the next cheap labour nation along the line. The only way to compete with cheap labour nations for productivity is to lower your own wages or automate, neither of which is going to help Joe Bloggs struggling to pay his mortgage and put food on the table. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 A new study shows that if China had acted to treat and limit the spread of the coronavirus sooner rather than trying to cover it up the number of cases could have been reduced by 95%, adn the spread greatly limited. https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html?utm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David8865 Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 To be fair they did kid of fumble the ball with this one, messed up real bad. But economic sanctions will not fix this. No retaliation will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) In the past week, it all most appears that China would be a more reliable ally than the US...at least until November. They are at least delivering on medical supplies rather than the US ripping off their "allies" like Germany by stealing shipments of medical supplies. Edited April 5, 2020 by Queenmandy85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 2:09 PM, Michael Hardner said: Oh GOOD. YOU must know what a globalist is. In the context of this crisis, please explain it to me. I'm sad. It's been over two weeks and I haven't heard back... oh well... The US is still a better friend than China but we're probably a better match with Europe right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) On 3/19/2020 at 10:34 AM, Argus said: A new study shows that if China had acted to treat and limit the spread of the coronavirus sooner rather than trying to cover it up the number of cases could have been reduced by 95%, adn the spread greatly limited. https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html?utm I am not sure about the 95% amount but yes. They covered it up. Whether that was to protect people from panicking, covering up mistakes, incompetence, stupidity, etc., who knows probably a mix of them all. Right now they are rushing to buy up oil while it's cheap. They use any situation to make money. They are the Borg with Ferrengi built in. ..but then Trump is engaging in equally as selfish trade practices. Edited April 5, 2020 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 46 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I'm sad. It's been over two weeks and I haven't heard back... oh well... The US is still a better friend than China but we're probably a better match with Europe right now. I have to agree about the US. If we can stick it out until November, maybe the situation will improve. God, I miss Secretary of State George Marshall. When we come out the other side, a quiet review of our foreign policy will be in order. I don't seriously advocate allying with China. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: I have to agree about the US. If we can stick it out until November, maybe the situation will improve. God, I miss Secretary of State George Marshall. When we come out the other side, a quiet review of our foreign policy will be in order. I don't seriously advocate allying with China. Nothing changes just because of November. All U.S. administrations will favour Americans over Canadians, if only because of domestic politics. The U.S. is not allied with Canada for Canadian interests...it is allied with Canada for American interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: I have to agree about the US. If we can stick it out until November, maybe the situation will improve. Maybe we should play them off against each other. Pull out of NORAD and offer the Russians or Chinese basing privileges for their navy or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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