Dougie93 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Not necessarily. Depends on what you mean by "influence". Getting oppo research on your political opponents is not a crime. There's only a law against accepting bribes, so long as the foreigners are not bribing, there's no law against them influencing elections that I can find. It's constitutionally protected protected by the first amendment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: There's only a law against accepting bribes, so long as the foreigners are not bribing, there's no law against them influencing elections that I can find. It's constitutionally protected protected by the first amendment. Indeed. If that is the specific form of "influence" being referred to, then that is illegal, but if Bubber means that any form of influence is illegal, then that is obviously wrong. Edited October 17, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Indeed. If that is the specific form of "influence" being referred to, then that is illegal, but if Bubber means that any form of influence is illegal, then that is obviously wrong. The concept that collusion itself is a crime, is a fabrication. That's actually totalitarianism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 He likes to poke his nose in other peoples elections. He poked his nose in the Israeli election a while back and actually spent money and sent advisors to work for the campaign running against Netanyahu. Seems like Democrats don’t always hate election meddling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Shady said: He likes to poke his nose in other peoples elections. He poked his nose in the Israeli election a while back and actually spent money and sent advisors to work for the campaign running against Netanyahu. Seems like Democrats don’t always hate election meddling. Nope, they only hate election meddling when it helps the Republicans, when it helps them they love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said: Nope, they only hate election meddling when it helps the Republicans, when it helps them they love it. The Democrats are the Media Party. They don't run the media, the media runs them. The Media Party only has two stories. One is Vietnam. The other is Watergate. Every square peg has to be jammed into one of those round holes. Every military action has to be Vietnam all over again. Every time they lose an election, it has to be Watergate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 I presume Scheer endorses himself so we already have American involvement in this election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: I presume Scheer endorses himself so we already have American involvement in this election. America runs everything in Canada, Canada is totally dependent on America, the Elite Consensus here is not so deluded to think that they can ultimately defy Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just like Canadians did in the 2016 U.S. election, Americans are involved in Canada's federal election as campaign supporters on the ground and in media. President Obama is just another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 I'm gonna wear my MAGA hat and KC Chiefs Montana jersey when I vote in this election. Missouruh pride. Suck it, Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Dougie93 said: Under what statute? Chapter and verse, quote it for us. You're giving me orders now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: You're giving me orders now? Just answer the question. There is no statute which I am aware of, which prohibits foreign governments influencing elections per se, not in America, not in Canada neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannucklehead Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Sort of happened back in the 60's when Kennedy and Diefenbaker got into a spat over the u.s. placing nukes in Canada. Pearson won the election, but still, no nukes here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: Sort of happened back in the 60's when Kennedy and Diefenbaker got into a spat over the u.s. placing nukes in Canada. Pearson won the election, but still, no nukes here. That wasn't how it was, Canada requested the nukes as replacement for cancelling the Arrow, America agreed, then the government reversed itself in the face of a backlash. Canada none the less bought the CF-104 so the Canadian Forces could deliver the B61 tactical nuclear bombs in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannucklehead Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: That wasn't how it was, Canada requested the nukes as replacement for cancelling the Arrow, America agreed, then the government reversed itself in the face of a backlash. Canada none the less bought the CF-104 so the Canadian Forces could deliver the B61 tactical nuclear bombs in Europe. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/5398763/canada-election-meddling/amp/ Their discord peaked when Diefenbaker refused Kennedy’s wishes to store nuclear warheads in Canada as part of a defence pact with the U.S., something that was supported by Canada’s opposition Liberal leader, Lester B. Pearson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/5398763/canada-election-meddling/amp/ Their discord peaked when Diefenbaker refused Kennedy’s wishes to store nuclear warheads in Canada as part of a defence pact with the U.S., something that was supported by Canada’s opposition Liberal leader, Lester B. Pearson. Diefenbaker had aleady accepted the missiles and 56 of them were operational at CFB North Bay. He simply didn't tell Canadians that they were to be nuclear armed until after they were already in place. Then, laughably, in typical Canadian fashion, he had to reverse himself and try to get rid of the political hot potato which he had already signed off on. Edited October 17, 2019 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Again, just another reason I have come to despise Canada. I simply can't abide this country which wont take responsibility for its own shit because it is pathologically insecure about America Canada is pathetic. Canadians are pathetic. It's a nation of cretins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannucklehead Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/dk-latta/diefenbaker-and-kennedy_b_4316086.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNhLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAETdhvy9NTTqu_L0eM4IjvKVUQVSpt2vkCRTSqtXAT7wqNP0xW8VOYamtCXqk5D55u63vhCYQbMijZyt8eBuRL-UmKHwnuasF9-9xEK6H1kvEy5tHJFxUDm6bsz54y7J2h6-_90tiSr_96oXFyATP5WJWY3gHuoOH_tGPWy0v0cl https://diefenbaker.usask.ca/virtual-exhibits/nuclear-question.php https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.macleans.ca/society/10-reasons-why-dief-the-chief-and-jfk-hated-each-other/amp/ All the history books say otherwise, but that's ok. Continue on with your disillusioned views of our history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) They also did the same thing with the CF-104, initially Canada embraced the NATO nuclear mission, then when the CF-104's got to Europe, Canada reversed itself again. Canada is so gutless. Pathetic gutless free rider cretin nation. It's not hard to despise Canada, it not only disgusts me, what I came to realize is that it always has I just had some misguided loyalty to this clown show passed down from my parents, once I jettisoned that, the cretinous nature of Canada is impossible not to call out as it is. Canada is in NORAD and NATO, Canada fully participates in the nuclear deterrent, but all Canadian prigs care about is pretending that their shit don't stink like everybody else. And everybody in the world knows it, which is why outside of Canada, Canada is a laughing stock. Edited October 17, 2019 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Teena said: Why is a former US president getting involved in Canadian politics? As if I needed another reason not to vote for Trudeau. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/barack-obama-endorses-justin-trudeau-180249311.html What a piece of crap. Dems: "No one can meddle in our elections! It's a crime!" Obama: "I meddle in everybody else's elections. It's awesome!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 hours ago, BubberMiley said: Obama isn't president anymore, so it's not an issue. Private citizens are free to say what they want. His title is still President Obama until the day he dies, so his endorsement still represents the US Seal. He's not free to meddle in our elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/dk-latta/diefenbaker-and-kennedy_b_4316086.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNhLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAETdhvy9NTTqu_L0eM4IjvKVUQVSpt2vkCRTSqtXAT7wqNP0xW8VOYamtCXqk5D55u63vhCYQbMijZyt8eBuRL-UmKHwnuasF9-9xEK6H1kvEy5tHJFxUDm6bsz54y7J2h6-_90tiSr_96oXFyATP5WJWY3gHuoOH_tGPWy0v0cl https://diefenbaker.usask.ca/virtual-exhibits/nuclear-question.php https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.macleans.ca/society/10-reasons-why-dief-the-chief-and-jfk-hated-each-other/amp/ All the history books say otherwise, but that's ok. Continue on with your disillusioned views of our history. Doesn't actually address the point. Just a smokescreen. The facts are well known, Diefenbaker cancelled the Arrow and his replacement for it was the Bomarc Missile. He was fully aware that the Bomarc was a nuclear missile when he signed off on it. Canadians of course were oblivious, when they found out, the leftist anti nuclear movement went for a shit. Then Diefenbaker cowered in the face of it, because Diefenbaker was the Original Canadian Cuck, who knew? The best was when he ordered the Canadian Forces to stand down in the Cuban Missile Crisis and they just ignored him and carried on with the Americans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: His title is still President Obama until the day he dies, so his endorsement still represents the US Seal. He's not free to meddle in our elections. It's an honorary title. He's a private citizen now with no relationship with the government. But if it's a big deal and what you say is true, I guess he can be impeached too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 hours ago, BubberMiley said: I think it's clear you don't know what collusion is if you don't know the relevance of whether someone is a foreign citizen or a foreign government. The Dems never stipulated that Russians had to be government agents in order for their help to constitute collusion. Not all of the Russian oligarchs are formally part of the russian govt. Was the girl that they had the meeting with a member of the govt? I don't think she was, yet the meeting was a huge deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannucklehead Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 It was argued by some that the surface-to-air guided missile, with a range of 640 km, would be an effective replacement for the manned interceptor Avro Arrow, which the Diefenbaker government had scrapped. The missiles would theoretically intercept any Soviet attacks on North America before they reached the industrial heartland of Canada. that's brilliant, shoot down nukes with nukes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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